Josh Allen - week THREE report card

[GunnerBill]

59 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

But because he's willing to try and escape the sack he makes a few miracle plays per game. I don't ever want him to lose that. I'll accept a couple sacks that look stupid in exchange for those incredible game changing plays.

 

Yep. As long as he holds onto the ball when it happens I live with it. Cos even at 3rd and 22 and 3rd and 25 he is able to make plays.

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

You made a ridiculous statement and equivalent and I responded. I didn't say anything about an A+ game, nor do I believe he had one.

Explain to me how the ridiculous equivalent (that I pointed out) has any relevance. If Mahomes throws 4 picks in a loss, does it make Josh’s game grade better? 
 

If someone here said “Mahomes was A+ in the Chargers game and Josh was B+ today,” maybe it would be a relevant grievance to someone. AFAIK, no one has said that. In fact, I’m not sure anyone said Mahomes played great that game. 
 

How this extremely simple point missed you is beyond me.

Edited September 27, 2020 by FireChans

[MJS]

I think B+ is fair. Even though his INT was NOT an INT, it was still a bad decision to throw that ball. At times he held the ball too long and took unnecessary hits and sacks.

 

But man, he is a gamer. He brings it all game, every game, and he wills himself to victory. What an awesome player to have on our side, and it's awesome we have some receivers who can make catches and help him out.

 

This was a down game for Allen and this team, but he still accounted for 5 TD's and got the win. Even the down games look pretty good.

[K-9]

2 hours ago, rayray808 said:

WEEK ONE: B+

WEEK TWO: A+

 

WEEK THREE: B+

 

24/33 - 73% completion - 311 yards - 4 TDs 1 INT - 8 yards rushing - 1 rushing TD - 1 fumble

 

Before the pitchforks come out regarding my grade let me make one thing clear: Josh had some really bad plays that could/should have lost us the game... we still won, but it does not erase those head scratching, game crippling plays. You take those away? He has another A+ game. All I ask is you don't let the flashy fantasy scores blind your assessment of his play this week.

 

With that said, here is what I loved:

- Flawless first half of football. He was in command at all times and showed franchise qualities that he is indeed the dude.

- Trusting his WR's and spreading the ball all around the field

- a mix of fastballs and loft change ups - his touch is unreal right now (Diggs laser in the endzone vs Ramsey was amazing)

- He is our offense. 5 TD's total

 

most importantly...

- when things were bad, and we knew it was Josh Allen time, deep down I knew he would somehow pull it off. It reminded me of watching Brett Favre back in the day, or even Rodgers now. The 3rd down and long to Beez was just amazing. Then to follow it up with a game winner was must see TV!

 

As Josh progresses and starts becoming weekly MVP talk, we need to be more critical and hopefully clean up the head scratching moments. Yes, maybe the INT should not have counted, but it did and lead to a complete snowball effect of a Rams comeback. Yes, when he avoids the blitz he sometimes makes nice throws down the field however yelling at a ref after a play and taking sacks in moments where we absolutely cannot allow it just cannot happen if we want to win playoff games. Need proof? Watch our last playoff game.

 

Overall, Josh is playing at an incredible level and as a Bills fan I could not be happier. I invested tons of $$ in his rookie cards 3 years ago and right now those prices have absolutely sky rocketed. People are starting to believe, and I am sure networks are calling the league right now trying to get more Josh Allen on TV. B+ vs A-, who cares. We should all be celebrating as Bills fans. We have waited a LOOOONG TIME for this.

 

GO BILLS! 

Per the bold text, can you cite all those “bad, head scratching, and crippling plays” that almost cost us the game? I saw a bunch in defense, though.

[CincyBillsFan]

A+

 

Football is not about perfection.  Allen had over 300 yards passing, 4 TD passes and 1 TD rushing.  He had 2 TO's but it's hard to count the INT against him as it was one of the worst calls I've seen in some time. 

 

Through two and a half quarters, Allen was perfect.  Five possessions and four TD's as the Bills raced out o a 28 - 3 lead.

 

Then adversity struck and with the game on the line Allen marched the offense the length of the field and won the game. 

 

That's an A+ grade in my book.

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Solid B. 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Looked like an A to me, considering last week was an A+. I feel any grade below A- is focused too heavily on the 3rd quarter. The Rams pass rush got home several times later in the game, which is not all on the QB - they are very talented on defense.

[PrimeTime101]

seriously what is an A for you guys..

Edited September 27, 2020 by PrimeTime101

[JY422]

2 hours ago, Crayola64 said:

To explain why your grades are so bad.  If Allen replicates these performances every week, he is the undisputed MVP.  If your performances are on an MVP level, they shouldn't be Bs.

Russell Wilson May have something to say about this. Using your argument... IF they both duplicate the current numbers they are producing it will be the two greatest QB performances in history but Russell would win MVP. 

[FeelingOnYouboty]

I'll give him an A. Last week was an A+

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:

seriously what is an A for you guys..

 

In fairness of the guys giving B+.... Josh did have two turnovers again. That is 2 out of 3 games he has turned it over twice. I can live with one turnover being an A- and that is what I gave because ultimately I don't count the INT. But I can understand where the B+ comes from. It comes from turning it over twice. 

[MarlinTheMagician]

A+  Allen has more heart, toughness and competitiveness than any quarterback in the NFL I have ever seen.  Ever.  He won that game on sheer willpower (and a timely flag, and some beautiful throws).  He was taking a beating.  Man he's tough.

 

Jets fans friends warned me Winters is a mauler in the run game, effective, but very bad at pass pro.  Don't like seeing him in there at guard.  Was Ford okay?

[PrimeTime101]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

In fairness of the guys giving B+.... Josh did have two turnovers again. That is 2 out of 3 games he has turned it over twice. I can live with one turnover being an A- and that is what I gave because ultimately I don't count the INT. But I can understand where the B+ comes from. It comes from turning it over twice. 

that was not a int.. A- at least. 4 passing touchdowns and a ru ning td dont make up for that?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:

that was not a int.. A- at least. 4 passing touchdowns and a ru ning td dont make up for that?

 

I agree I discount it. But I can see why some might not cos whatever we thing it was what it was.

 

 

Edited September 27, 2020 by GunnerBill

[PrimeTime101]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I agree I discount it. But I can see why some might not cos whatever we thing it was what it was.

k whatever . i strongly dissagree. you overlook somethings when the qb plays like a mvp for 3 straight games..

[GunnerBill]

Just now, PrimeTime101 said:

k whatever . i strongly dissagree. you overlook somethings when the qb plays like a mvp for 3 straight games..

 

He got As across the board last week fwiw. 

[PrimeTime101]

this qb could end up mvp and never get an A or A- from certain people on these boards.. just saying..

[Mrbojanglezs]

Are we going to be grading Allen every week in year 10?

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

this qb could end up mvp and never get an A or A- from certain people on these boards.. just saying..

 

2 hours ago, rayray808 said:

WEEK ONE: B+

WEEK TWO: A+

 

WEEK THREE: B+

 

24/33 - 73% completion - 311 yards - 4 TDs 1 INT - 8 yards rushing - 1 rushing TD - 1 fumble

 

Before the pitchforks come out regarding my grade let me make one thing clear: Josh had some really bad plays that could/should have lost us the game... we still won, but it does not erase those head scratching, game crippling plays. You take those away? He has another A+ game. All I ask is you don't let the flashy fantasy scores blind your assessment of his play this week.

 

With that said, here is what I loved:

- Flawless first half of football. He was in command at all times and showed franchise qualities that he is indeed the dude.

- Trusting his WR's and spreading the ball all around the field

- a mix of fastballs and loft change ups - his touch is unreal right now (Diggs laser in the endzone vs Ramsey was amazing)

- He is our offense. 5 TD's total

 

most importantly...

- when things were bad, and we knew it was Josh Allen time, deep down I knew he would somehow pull it off. It reminded me of watching Brett Favre back in the day, or even Rodgers now. The 3rd down and long to Beez was just amazing. Then to follow it up with a game winner was must see TV!

 

As Josh progresses and starts becoming weekly MVP talk, we need to be more critical and hopefully clean up the head scratching moments. Yes, maybe the INT should not have counted, but it did and lead to a complete snowball effect of a Rams comeback. Yes, when he avoids the blitz he sometimes makes nice throws down the field however yelling at a ref after a play and taking sacks in moments where we absolutely cannot allow it just cannot happen if we want to win playoff games. Need proof? Watch our last playoff game.

 

Overall, Josh is playing at an incredible level and as a Bills fan I could not be happier. I invested tons of $$ in his rookie cards 3 years ago and right now those prices have absolutely sky rocketed. People are starting to believe, and I am sure networks are calling the league right now trying to get more Josh Allen on TV. B+ vs A-, who cares. We should all be celebrating as Bills fans. We have waited a LOOOONG TIME for this.

 

GO BILLS! 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, The Dean said:

 

And  1 INT, even thought it was a BS call.

Not counting it

[FireChans]

10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

In fairness of the guys giving B+.... Josh did have two turnovers again. That is 2 out of 3 games he has turned it over twice. I can live with one turnover being an A- and that is what I gave because ultimately I don't count the INT. But I can understand where the B+ comes from. It comes from turning it over twice. 

I mean the INT sucked. It was a questionable toss by Josh but I will always live with taking shots downfield.

 

But the real reason why I think a B+ is reasonable is because we saw shades of Houston Josh in the last 20 minutes. You could feel how rattled he was, then the fumble to really let the Rams back in. 

[TheFunPolice]

Allen is always going to be a little wild... It's his game. It's what makes him effective. 

 

Yes, sometimes he's so competitive that it costs you. 

 

But man can he make plays! 

 

I say A for this week because that last drive it seemed like it was whatever down and 25 to go the entire drive and he led the team to a winning TD. Kid has ice water in his veins, as coach said.

 

He's a different kind of QB than almost everyone else in the NFL. 

 

 

[PrimeTime101]

Just now, FireChans said:

I mean the INT sucked. It was a questionable toss by Josh but I will always live with taking shots downfield.

 

But the real reason why I think a B+ is reasonable is because we saw shades of Houston Josh in the last 20 minutes. You could feel how rattled he was, then the fumble to really let the Rams back in. 

when the defense fails and the line cant block there's s not much you could do

1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

Allen is always going to be a little wild... It's his game. It's what makes him effective. 

 

Yes, sometimes he's so competitive that it costs you. 

 

But man can he make plays! 

 

I say A for this week because that last drive it seemed like it was whatever down and 25 to go the entire drive and he led the team to a winning TD. Kid has ice water in his veins, as coach said.

 

He's a different kind of QB than almost everyone else in the NFL. 

 

 

100% agree

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

 

i said some people i didnt say op

[TheFunPolice]

One thing is for sure: Allen is our long term QB.

 

Passing yards and passing TDs are coming every week.

 

We hit in that draft pick. Hrs definitely not a bust (Darnold might be).

 

Now the question is how good Allen can be. It's exciting! 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

when the defense fails and the line cant block there's s not much you could do

100% agree

He's not on the field when the defense is on the field.

 

He still fumbled to give them the ball in the red zone.

 

I'm not bashing Josh but he had a significant stretch in the game where he didn't look good, and that's why a B+ is reasonable.

Edited September 27, 2020 by FireChans

[JohnNord]

The Bills won the game because of Allen.  There were a few times when he held onto the ball for too long but then again, his line wasn’t blocked Aaron Donald very well.

 

I will probably say A

[PrimeTime101]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

He's not on the field when the defense is on the field.

 

He still fumbled to give them the ball in the red zone.

 

I'm not bashing Josh but he had a significant stretch in the game where he didn't look good, and that's why a B+ is reasonable.

when defenses fail it puts added pressure on Qb. we disagree you will get over it

[FireChans]

Just now, PrimeTime101 said:

when defenses fail it puts added pressure on Qb. we disagree you will get over it

When the QB drops the ball and the opponent picks it up on the 5, it puts added pressure on the defense.

 

It's a team game.

[BobbyC81]

I don’t think you can give Josh an A+ with the bonehead plays.  They were crucial, one resulting in a turnover plus a 15 yard penalty, the other ( face mask) a sack plus a 15 yard penalty.  Even the so-called INT was a hero-ball throw that shouldn’t have been attempted.  What a catch by Kroft though.

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Did anyone give Mahomes an A for the Chargers game?

 

Yes, he got a lot of praise for that game

30 minutes ago, FireChans said:

He's not on the field when the defense is on the field.

 

He still fumbled to give them the ball in the red zone.

 

I'm not bashing Josh but he had a significant stretch in the game where he didn't look good, and that's why a B+ is reasonable.

 

"Significant stretch"?  LMAO, the only significant stretch around here is saying he had a significant stretch where he didnt look good.  

[Putin]

3 hours ago, rayray808 said:

WEEK ONE: B+

WEEK TWO: A+

 

WEEK THREE: B+

 

24/33 - 73% completion - 311 yards - 4 TDs 1 INT - 8 yards rushing - 1 rushing TD - 1 fumble

 

Before the pitchforks come out regarding my grade let me make one thing clear: Josh had some really bad plays that could/should have lost us the game... we still won, but it does not erase those head scratching, game crippling plays. You take those away? He has another A+ game. All I ask is you don't let the flashy fantasy scores blind your assessment of his play this week.

 

With that said, here is what I loved:

- Flawless first half of football. He was in command at all times and showed franchise qualities that he is indeed the dude.

- Trusting his WR's and spreading the ball all around the field

- a mix of fastballs and loft change ups - his touch is unreal right now (Diggs laser in the endzone vs Ramsey was amazing)

- He is our offense. 5 TD's total

 

most importantly...

- when things were bad, and we knew it was Josh Allen time, deep down I knew he would somehow pull it off. It reminded me of watching Brett Favre back in the day, or even Rodgers now. The 3rd down and long to Beez was just amazing. Then to follow it up with a game winner was must see TV!

 

As Josh progresses and starts becoming weekly MVP talk, we need to be more critical and hopefully clean up the head scratching moments. Yes, maybe the INT should not have counted, but it did and lead to a complete snowball effect of a Rams comeback. Yes, when he avoids the blitz he sometimes makes nice throws down the field however yelling at a ref after a play and taking sacks in moments where we absolutely cannot allow it just cannot happen if we want to win playoff games. Need proof? Watch our last playoff game.

 

Overall, Josh is playing at an incredible level and as a Bills fan I could not be happier. I invested tons of $$ in his rookie cards 3 years ago and right now those prices have absolutely sky rocketed. People are starting to believe, and I am sure networks are calling the league right now trying to get more Josh Allen on TV. B+ vs A-, who cares. We should all be celebrating as Bills fans. We have waited a LOOOONG TIME for this.

 

GO BILLS! 

Good thing there’s no shortage of toilet paper cuz you could have used that report card to wipe your 

[DrDawkinstein]

6 TDs when you count the ones we had to keep re-scoring early in the game. Plus a 7th that he ran in.

 

0 INTs when you count reality.

 

Bonus points for getting an Unsportsmanlike for yelling at the refs (who deserved it), and a PF for ripping down DLineman by the facemask.

 

A+

 

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by DrDawkinstein

[RichRiderBills]

2 QB driven comebacks. He's been the best statistical QB in franchise history in 3 games, is the only NFL QB to ever have 10 Passing TDs and 2 rush TDs in week 3, but only good enough for an -A avg.

 

Tough crowd.

[LABILLBACKER]

Maybe the head scratching plays deserve to remain. Maybe that's just the gunslinger in Josh. Allen is the antithesis of Tyrod, JP and Trentative. Yes he will try anything to help his team. Even if it's crazy. But he's trying to make plays and I don't ever want him to lose that mentality in his DNA. Yes as others have said he has alot of Farve in him. I care more about W's then grades. But I will give the defense an F today.

[FireChans]

35 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yes, he got a lot of praise for that game

 

"Significant stretch"?  LMAO, the only significant stretch around here is saying he had a significant stretch where he didnt look good.  

Weird. I saw a lot of Herbert praise for hanging in there with the Chiefs. Not so much, "Pat Mahomes is unbelievable with 2 TD's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

Maybe we listen to different stations.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

He needs to throw it away earlier, especially when rolling left. 

[Aaronthebaron]

I have to agree with what others said, it was an A. The “head-scratchers” were the result of someone putting everything on his shoulders and gutting out a win. The final drive, converting two downs with 20+ yards, that’s incredible. 
You want him to be flawless, but what QB is?

[Mango]

A- today. My only real critique this week is that he tried to play a little too much hero ball at times. Not so much forcing throws or wild decisions. More, that there were times he needed to get rid of the ball sooner. Too much looking for the big play. 

 

I’ll be curious to see what the all-22 says. Was he not seeing the right guys at the top of his drop back or were there guys just not open. 2019 Josh I would have jumped on it and assumed he wasn’t trusting his eyes. So far I trust 2020 Josh. 

 

Overall I loved him today. 

[BobbyC81]

33 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

He needs to throw it away earlier, especially when rolling left. 

Yeah, that one play that seemed to last forever that ended up with a 2-handed push throw where he was called down, he was surrounded but kept getting free but not enough to get off a strong pass with his right arm.  Thus the push pass.  Maybe he needs to practice throwing with his left so he can be ambidextrous like Mahomes?

Edited September 28, 2020 by ColeB
The use of “####” in “#### the arm “ was blocked out.

[The Wiz]

I give Allen a big C for his performance today

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BECAUSE THE CANTALOUPE FARMER DID IT AGAIN!