Week 3: Rams at Bills

[716er]

This will be a high scoring game - especially if Milano/Edmunds are out.

 

Rams run their offense much like the Bills did yesterday. Lots of play action where they move the pocket and hit the crossng receiver down the field.

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Please God let MIlano and Edmunds be back 

[Nanker]

7 hours ago, BadboyBills said:

Honestly, this game should be flexed. Pretty boy vs The Process.

Now that’s just wrong. Think of the fans, many of whom have made plans for weeks if not months to come to Bills Stadium early to tailgate and watch the game at 1:00PM. They made travel plans and some made hotel bookings and plane reservations well in advance of this game predicated on a 1:00 PM start. To flex this game would be a huge inconvenience to the fan base. 
 

Oh, wait...

[eball]

8 hours ago, NewEra said:

Just gonna throw them on teasers this week.  Tease it to Bills +3.5 imo

 

Actually, teasing the Rams to +9 is the smart play.

[CLTbills]

11 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

If Milano and Edmunds are back, Bills will win and I bet that line moves.

Sean and Leslie will confuse Goff. 

This. 

This game is dependent on having Milano and Edmunds. I think McD knew this, and thus sat them both this week when at least one of them (Edmunds) probably could have gone.

[Victory Formation]

Truly need all three sides of the ball to play very well to beat the Rams...the game may come down to a FG..need Edmunds and Milano to be healthy if we are to ever stand a chance.. Goff doesn’t scare me too much but McVay is a genius game planner and offensive minded HC.. Bills have the better team but the Rams have more experience.. need a dominant performance by our defense and Allen... our team as a whole needs to limit their mistakes, can’t afford penalties.... every yard and inch will matter against the Rams...this will be a very difficult game for Buffalo... chess match through and through... Bills win 24-21

[RichRiderBills]

The key to this game will be pressure on Goff. He's a different QB when pressured, and he does not have the escape hatches he used to. I agree much of this is tied to Milano and Edmunds, but I feel the crew from Sunday can get the job done.

 

I hope we can get at least one of those guys back to tighten up coverage on the TE. Higbee scares me, but Ginseke had an "amazing" game with some shoestring brilliant catches. 

 

I dont feel the Rams D is capable of shutting us down. 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Truly need all three sides of the ball to play very well to beat the Rams...the game may come down to a FG..need Edmunds and Milano to be healthy if we are to ever stand a chance.. Goff doesn’t scare me too much but McVay is a genius game planner and offensive minded HC.. Bills have the better team but the Rams have more experience.. need a dominant performance by our defense and Allen... our team as a whole needs to limit their mistakes, can’t afford penalties.... every yard and inch will matter against the Rams...this will be a very difficult game for Buffalo... chess match through and through... Bills win 24-21

We don’t need them healthy “to stand a chance”.  At least, I hope not... 
 

The Rams D has a couple studs and a bunch of fluff. We should be able to score on them.  ....and if our offense is truly legit, we should be able to score on anyone.  
 

On defense, even without Edmunds/Milano, I trust McDermott, Frazier and the Defense to redeem themselves.    I’m sure they are not happy, at all, about how that side of the ball played yesterday.  

[Victory Formation]

Just now, SCBills said:

We don’t need them healthy “to stand a chance”.  At least, I hope not... 
 

The Rams D has a couple studs and a bunch of fluff. We should be able to score on them.  ....and if our offense is truly legit, we should be able to score on anyone.  
 

On defense, even without Edmunds/Milano, I trust McDermott, Frazier and the Defense to redeem themselves.    I’m sure they are not happy, at all, about how that side of the ball played yesterday.  

Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey are problems for us.. their offense is also deadly.. they have Super Bowl experience as well.. I have an extremely healthy amount of respect for McVay.. this will be a tough game for Allen.. not saying we won’t win, not saying Allen will struggle but this is going to be a violent game to the end..

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Bills season so far like a college football schedule, a couple cupcakes to start the year. The real season starts now.

Edited September 21, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede

[SCBills]

11 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey are problems for us.. their offense is also deadly.. they have Super Bowl experience as well.. I have an extremely healthy amount of respect for McVay.. this will be a tough game for Allen.. not saying we won’t win, not saying Allen will struggle but this is going to be a violent game to the end..

Oh, I agree.  This is a game we need to win if we want people to respect us beyond, eh, they’re an “up and coming team”.  
 

The Rams look filthy through 2 weeks.  
 

Diggs vs Ramsey will be fun, but who is going to cover Brown and Beasley?   
 

Aaron Donald is just a guy you have to accept will wreck some plays.  Have to mitigate his effect as best we can.  He comes up the middle though, so hopefully Allen can evade any pressure he brings and get out on the move.  
 

On defense, we just played “good Fitz” with Parker and Gesicki, in 90 degree heat/humidity.  Hopefully our defense learned their lessons if Edmunds/Milano can’t go, because Goff, Woods, Kupp and Higbee are a better version of that.  
 

I just don’t think we need Edmunds/Milano to “have a chance” is all.   I still think McDermott/Frazier and the Defense can fix some stuff from the Dolphins game. 
 

Edited September 21, 2020 by SCBills

[Coach Tuesday]

Not the kind of offense we struggle with tbh.  Big receivers with QBs who get the ball out quickly and throw jump balls give us fits - hence yesterday’s issues.  Rams are more traditional, scheme vs talent, Bills match up better.  It’s odd but that’s how I see it.

[thebandit27]

Discipline, discipline, discipline on defense against the Rams.

 

Don't take the eye candy, don’t fall for the motions and backfield actions. Be disciplined.

[Chaos]

1 hour ago, Nanker said:

Now that’s just wrong. Think of the fans, many of whom have made plans for weeks if not months to come to Bills Stadium early to tailgate and watch the game at 1:00PM. They made travel plans and some made hotel bookings and plane reservations well in advance of this game predicated on a 1:00 PM start. To flex this game would be a huge inconvenience to the fan base. 
 

Oh, wait...

The NFL should move all games to prime time, 7 days a week. If it is only on TV, why not. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

Actually, teasing the Rams to +9 is the smart play.

It’s is.....but I can’t just I remember what I saw out of JA this week it’s not 🤣.  Really just depends on if Tremaine and Milano play.  If they play, I’m teasing the Bills. We’re better. At home, I don’t think we lose if we’re full strength 

[CIrvine]

Tough game for the Rams.  They wanted to stay on the east coast, but the league said no.

[YoloinOhio]

I hope it’s windy at Bills stadium so mcvay has to worry about his hair moving 

[mannc]

10 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Surprising amount of respect.  Sharps should be all over the Rams.

Correct.  Line has already moved to Rams +2.5.

[Fetou]

34 minutes ago, NewEra said:

It’s is.....but I can’t just I remember what I saw out of JA this week it’s not 🤣.  Really just depends on if Tremaine and Milano play.  If they play, I’m teasing the Bills. We’re better. At home, I don’t think we lose if we’re full strength 

Never cross zero on a teaser my friend!

[Matt_In_NH]

Hopefully Edmunds and Milano get healthy enough to play.  I am more hopeful for Edmonds though cause the bills go conservative on hammys.  

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, mattynh said:

Hopefully Edmunds and Milano get healthy enough to play.  I am more hopeful for Edmonds though cause the bills go conservative on hammys.  

 

Given it's an NFC game, and we definitely are conservative with hamstring injuries, i'd agree.  Edmunds practiced non-contact last week..  I think he plays Sunday but no Milano.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Fetou said:

Never cross zero on a teaser my friend!

Hit an 8 teamer crossing zero 3 times.

[Fetou]

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Hit an 8 teamer crossing zero 3 times.

Doesn't prove anything, it's a terrible wager. Make the equivalent alternate spreads with no teaser to get appropriate value for the shift in odds.

[nucci]

14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Yeah I thought it would be because of the 1pm eastern start/cross country travel but apparently not with rams track record there 

such an overrated issue. These guys are young and in shape and fly chartered planes. Why would they be tired and not ready to play?

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, Fetou said:

Doesn't prove anything, it's a terrible wager. Make the equivalent alternate spreads with no teaser to get appropriate value for the shift in odds.

Explain in simpler terms and include an example please.  You’re speaking above my pay grade.  

Edited September 21, 2020 by NewEra

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

Discipline, discipline, discipline on defense against the Rams.

 

Don't take the eye candy, don’t fall for the motions and backfield actions. Be disciplined.

I agree, though I suspect they come in with a different game plan than the one I watched vs the Eagles when the game was down.

 

They know that Schwartz likes to play man to man, and the Eagles play aggressive so they did a lot of misdirections and sweeps. I think that our zone is better suited against that, but I would really love it if someone who knows better does a breakdown.

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Sucks cuz the fans would’ve won this game for us. This is horrible!

[K-9]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

I hope it’s windy at Bills stadium so mcvay has to worry about his hair moving 

That hair ain’t moving no matter how windy it is.

[thebandit27]

8 minutes ago, K-9 said:

That hair ain’t moving no matter how windy it is.

A modern day Jimmy Johnson, he is

[dubs]

In some ways, the season starts this week.  Glad the Bills were able to start with a couple less imposing games, although all the credit with how they played.  This will be a big test.

 

 

[NewEra]

46 minutes ago, Fetou said:

Doesn't prove anything, it's a terrible wager. Make the equivalent alternate spreads with no teaser to get appropriate value for the shift in odds.

 

42 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Explain in simpler terms and include an example please.  You’re speaking above my pay grade.  

I didn’t mean this in a derogatory way.  Sports wagering is my main source of income at the moment due to covid.  I’m sure you know what you’re talking about and would genuinely like to know so I can apply it going forward.  If I’m leaving money on the table, I’d like to fix it.  Feel free to PM me

[Alphadawg7]

15 hours ago, OZBILLS said:

Would really like both ends to click.

 

Imagine an offense like today combined with the stingy 2019 version of the DEF! 

 

True statement game

 

Well we had the 2019 version of the defense week 1, we dominated all facets of that game.  Week 2, we were missing 2 of our best players, both at LB, both who excel in coverage and shutting down middle of field.  Miami has a very good coaching staff now, I literally think the Dolphins have their own version of McD and Beane now and are about at the same spot we were during Allens rookie year.  Great staff, pieces being added each year, on their way up.  So that staff literally focused on exploiting the weakness of the D Sunday, and it worked as Gesicki had a career day because of it.  This put a ton more pressure on the DB's too, and allowed them to exploit and abuse Levi as well who struggled all day.  

 

So, we still have that stingy 2019 version of the defense, we have just never before been forced to play without our 2 stud LB's in the same game before, not to mention, Norman is going to be a clear upgrade over Levi.  

 

Speaking of Levi, I don't know what happened to him.  There was a stretch last year where he was our highest rated DB and playing great as teams tried to attack him and avoid Tre.  But as the season wore on, he got more inconsistent.  He is a guy that cn go out on a Sunday and have a great game, make great plays, etc...or he can go out and be a complete liability.  I don't understand what it is that makes him like that.  I know Milano and Edmunds being out didn't help at all, but still, he struggled a lot yesterday again.  

 

Hopefully he shakes it off and has a bounce back game.  Anyone know the status of Norman and if he has a shot to play Sunday?   

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Well we had the 2019 version of the defense week 1, we dominated all facets of that game.  Week 2, we were missing 2 of our best players, both at LB, both who excel in coverage and shutting down middle of field.  Miami has a very good coaching staff now, I literally think the Dolphins have their own version of McD and Beane now and are about at the same spot we were during Allens rookie year.  Great staff, pieces being added each year, on their way up.  So that staff literally focused on exploiting the weakness of the D Sunday, and it worked as Gesicki had a career day because of it.  This put a ton more pressure on the DB's too, and allowed them to exploit and abuse Levi as well who struggled all day.  

 

So, we still have that stingy 2019 version of the defense, we have just never before been forced to play without our 2 stud LB's in the same game before, not to mention, Norman is going to be a clear upgrade over Levi.  

 

Speaking of Levi, I don't know what happened to him.  There was a stretch last year where he was our highest rated DB and playing great as teams tried to attack him and avoid Tre.  But as the season wore on, he got more inconsistent.  He is a guy that cn go out on a Sunday and have a great game, make great plays, etc...or he can go out and be a complete liability.  I don't understand what it is that makes him like that.  I know Milano and Edmunds being out didn't help at all, but still, he struggled a lot yesterday again.  

 

Hopefully he shakes it off and has a bounce back game.  Anyone know the status of Norman and if he has a shot to play Sunday?   

Norman is not eligible to play until week 4

[416BillsFan]

42 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Speaking of Levi, I don't know what happened to him.  There was a stretch last year where he was our highest rated DB and playing great as teams tried to attack him and avoid Tre.  But as the season wore on, he got more inconsistent.  He is a guy that cn go out on a Sunday and have a great game, make great plays, etc...or he can go out and be a complete liability.  I don't understand what it is that makes him like that.  I know Milano and Edmunds being out didn't help at all, but still, he struggled a lot yesterday again. 

Covering big guys isn't Levi's forte. Fitz picked on him last year as well to some success.

[Coach Tuesday]

4 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said:

Covering big guys isn't Levi's forte. Fitz picked on him last year as well to some success.

 

Would pay good money to see a pull-up contest between Levi Wallace and Casey Middelstadt.

[ColoradoBills]

[Talley56]

We shall see who the better Sean Mc...... is.

[K-9]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

A modern day Jimmy Johnson, he is

Yep, only with every MORE product. Didn’t think that was possible. 

[Penfield45]

We beat 1 playoff team last season in the Titans, and that didn't even count bc they had Mariota

 

if we wanna win the division we have to win these games. NE went into seattle and was a few yards away from beating them with Cam throwing almost 400 yards to no names. Patriots are a very good team this season 

[Mango]

I think the Rams are over rated. They are good, but they aren't a buzz saw. Winnable but more difficult than what we have played. Defense needs to be better than they were yesterday. Hoping that was an anomaly.