Can someone explain the Josh Allen hate from Bomani Jones and Dominique Foxworth??

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

On 11/12/2020 at 5:19 PM, HardyBoy said:

 

I think using JA as an example for that is wrong, he grinded and worked as hard as anyone to get there, but Bomani might be making the point that for many many equally skilled and sized black qbs there wouldn't have been even that random juco offer. He probably has a point there honestly if that is in fact what he is saying. 

 

I'm not sure he has a point there.

 

Look at Jordan Love. To me Love is very similar to Allen. Both played at a lower conference. Both had great sophomore years that put them on the map as a prospect but followed those seasons up with poor junior years prior to being drafted. They both have the size and arm talent which enabled each to be drafted in the first round. I think Allen went top 10 because of his superior athletic ability. But at the end of the day both grew up in the California Central Valley (California fly over country), both went to small colleges and both went in the first round.

 

Love went to much larger HS with a  better program. That got him straight into division 1 program. 

[Snake]

he is white

[Special K]

I bet these two idiots will focus on Josh's first quarter and completely ignore his second half on tomorrows show....Its comical how they twist themselves in knots with their ramblings to prevent from having to say three simple words: I WAS WRONG!

Edited December 14, 2020 by Special K

[pennstate10]

On 11/12/2020 at 8:33 PM, TheBrownBear said:

For as smart as Bomani is, it is telling that he quit his Ph.D. in Econ and chose to be a pop culture writer and critic.  He's bright compared to most of these sports pundit morons, but he's not above a thoughtless "hot take", especially when it comes to race.  

It takes some amount of intelligence to earn a PhD.

 

Doesnt take a lot of intelligence to quit a PhD program.

 

These guys are a traveling clown show.

[Warcodered]

32 minutes ago, Special K said:

I bet these two idiots will focus on Josh's first quarter and completely ignore his second half on tomorrows show....Its comical how they twist themselves in knots with their ramblings to prevent from having to say three simple words: I WAS WRONG!

[Stank_Nasty]

“Did you see how Allen let his arm get hit by Hayward and cause that int? McDermott is obviously racist for not pulling him out on the spot” 

[aceman_16]

57 minutes ago, Special K said:

I bet these two idiots will focus on Josh's first quarter and completely ignore his second half on tomorrows show....Its comical how they twist themselves in knots with their ramblings to prevent from having to say three simple words: I WAS WRONG!

Why even give them the click/listen? If you think they are idiots then put their show "on ignore."

[Special K]

1 minute ago, aceman_16 said:

Why even give them the click/listen? If you think they are idiots then put their show "on ignore."

 

I know, it’s more like hate-watching at this point.....they are only on the show on Mondays, so the rest of the week isn’t as bad.

[MJS]

17 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

“Did you see how Allen let his arm get hit by Hayward and cause that int? McDermott is obviously racist for not pulling him out on the spot” 

You think they actually watch him play?

[Stank_Nasty]

3 minutes ago, MJS said:

You think they actually watch him play?

Hahaha. Fair enough. 

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, pennstate10 said:

It takes some amount of intelligence to earn a PhD.

 

Doesnt take a lot of intelligence to quit a PhD program.

 

These guys are a traveling clown show.

 

The attrition rate can be high. It's a mental gauntlet to see it through to the dissertation defense.

[Solomon Grundy]

On September 15, 2020 at 12:47 AM, Special K said:

Skip to 10:55

 

 

These guys were complete jerks towards Josh Allen, and this isn't the first time they've done this to him.

 

I will never watch this show again when these two clowns are on it.....complete garbage from these guys!!

 

I think Bills Mafia need to get on these guys twitter accounts and let them know what we think of their opinions of Josh Allen!

I've come to realize that guys like these and Nick Wright are simply ATTENTION SEEKING WHORES

[billybob71]

5 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I've come to realize that guys like these and Nick Wright are simply ATTENTION SEEKING WHORES

They cant really believe what they are saying about Josh at this point. I think they do know that the Bills mafia is highly passionate and they will receive lots of clicks and tweets from angry Bills fans which helps them keep relevant and their jobs in sports media.

 

 

 

[Jpsredemption]

Some of the most disgusting commentary I’ve seen with regard to their stereotyping of Allen fans and disdain for Allen himself. They deserve no clickbait or followers. 

On 11/12/2020 at 8:33 PM, TheBrownBear said:

For as smart as Bomani is, it is telling that he quit his Ph.D. in Econ and chose to be a pop culture writer and critic.  He's bright compared to most of these sports pundit morons, but he's not above a thoughtless "hot take", especially when it comes to race.  

And unfortunately politics has now taken over sports commentary. The commentators must fear being objective because everything is viewed through a racial lense in the media today. When you curtail objective analysis you may as well not even tune in other than to watch the actual games and see for yourself. 

[Hampton Josh fan]

Why does anyone dignify these disgraceful,laughable side show carnival acts. Anything to be controversial or arbitrary is the order of the day. Poor gasbag Lebotard sacrificed his ESPN gig to get these poor souls a paycheck. Now these sports talk experts will hold court in bar bathrooms. 

[Don Otreply]

If you click on the show it’s the same as giving them money, why do you want to give them money?????, what does this say about those that complain, yet still give them money??? 

[LeviF]

You guys it's because our likes and retweets are questionable, or because you have an American flag in your avi, or something.  

 

lol I swear a double digit IQ is a prerequisite for working at ESPN nowadays.  

[JoshAllenReceipts]

Love seeing Bomani Jones squirm.

 

You can tell that Josh Allen's success makes him mad, deep down.

 

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by JoshAllenReceipts

[CSBill]

43 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

Love seeing Bomani Jones squirm.

 

You can tell that Josh Allen's success makes him mad, deep down.

 

Karma. 

 

Did he say something new today?

[GunnerBill]

Are we still obsessing about these two no marks who other than for this thread I have never even heard of?

 

Seriously?

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

I listened to about two minutes of his podcast yesterday. That last two minutes i will ever tune into.

 

To summarize:

 

1. He holds a major grudge over the Bills handling of Tyrod. Both the benching of Tyrod in favor of Peterman and the subsequent trading of Tyrod after he helped lead the Bills to their first postseason in 17 years.  This grudge is in part some of the reason why he dislikes Allen to a degree and a large reason why he dislikes Buffalo. Compared it to the Lions firing Caldwell after too many 9-7 seasons. Acknowledged that race plays a part.

 

2. It's not "good enough to just be a good QB" WTF? He believes Allen is good but has a fatal flaw. Too much hero ball. He also believes Allen could never make the 4th down TD throw that Jackson made to Brown the other night. As he put it, when Allen decides to run he runs. He won't keep his eyes down the field and throw. Again, WTF?

 

3. He seems to think there was some level of hypocrisy among the Bills organization and their fans in their love of Allen through his first two years but their insistence of getting rid of Tyrod. Similar level of play between the two in his eyes. Of course this ignores the fact that Tyrod was on a downward trajectory and a 8 year vet while Allen was always improving and only in his second year. 

 

All three of his points are complete crap. 

 

Me: Hindsight is 20/20 and Bills look like geniuses for both moving on from Tyrod when they did and drafting Allen.

 

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by Sammy Watkins' Rib

[JoshAllenReceipts]

37 minutes ago, CSBill said:

 

Did he say something new today?

 

The same old nonsensical drivel he usually spouts to get attention. It's quite entertaining to hear how dumb he sounds. 

 

Bomani Jones will be squirming for the next 15 years because JA is here to stay. That should put a smile on everybody's face. Long term, the joke's on him (we'll see how long it takes for him to figure that out).

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Coffeesforclosers]

43 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Are we still obsessing about these two no marks who other than for this thread I have never even heard of?

 

Seriously?

 

This.  If you want them to stop spouting awful hot takes about the Bills, stopping feeding them clicks and views.  Literally just ignore them.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

Race has everything to do with it.   When Jackson was getting questioned before the draft, all the disdain went to Allen because he wasn’t getting the same scrutiny and Allen had nothing to do with Jackson.  Race was the common denominator in the comparison.  Now there had been this Jackson vs Allen narrative going on for three years now.  Ask @C.Biscuit97, he bought into too.  Unfair to both QBs.  Foxworth said he likes to see Allen fail because it’s makes him happy to upset what he calls fans who like the American flag, dogs, and skull n crossbones.  

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

Race has everything to do with it.   When Jackson was getting questioned before the draft, all the disdain went to Allen because he wasn’t getting the same scrutiny and Allen had nothing to do with Jackson.  Race was the common denominator in the comparison.  Now there had been this Jackson vs Allen narrative going on for three years now.  Ask @C.Biscuit97, he bought into too.  Unfair to both QBs.  Foxworth said he likes to see Allen fail because it’s makes him happy to upset what he calls fans who like the American flag, dogs, and skull n crossbones.  

 

It's funny because when you hear the term racist you think of a southern white dude, but I have met racists of every color in my life. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, Native American, etc etc...

 

 

[dma0034]

The problem that he has is to context. I don't think anyone will say Allen was amazing on Sunday night. He was poor in the 1st half and good in the 2nd half for what I feel is an average game for his standards. They played the #1 Defense and he put up 240 yards and 2 TDs. In the second hald they dominted and took the foot off the petal (which I wish they'd stop doing)

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

 

It's funny because when you hear the term racist you think of a southern white dude, but I have met racists of every color in my life. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, Native American, etc etc...

 

 

@matter2003, were you on the Broncos message board yesterday?  I was browsing through, and thought I saw a Bills fan with the same name?

[SCBills]

17 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I listened to about two minutes of his podcast yesterday. That last two minutes i will ever tune into.

 

To summarize:

 

1. He holds a major grudge over the Bills handling of Tyrod. Both the benching of Tyrod in favor of Peterman and the subsequent trading of Tyrod after he helped lead the Bills to their first postseason in 17 years.  This grudge is in part some of the reason why he dislikes Allen to a degree and a large reason why he dislikes Buffalo. Compared it to the Lions firing Caldwell after too many 9-7 seasons. Acknowledged that race plays a part.

 

2. It's not "good enough to just be a good QB" WTF? He believe Allen is good but has a fatal flaw. Too much hero ball. He also believes Allen could never make the 4th down TD throw that Jackson made to Brown the other night. As he put it, when Allen decides to run he runs. He won't keep his eyes down the field and throw. Again, WTF?

 

3. He seems to think there was so level of hypocrisy among the Bills organization and their fans in their love of Allen through his first two years but their insistence of getting rid of Tyrod. Similar level of play between the two in his eyes. Of course this ignores the fact that Tyrod was on a downward trajectory and a 8 year vet while Allen was always improving and only in his second year. 

 

All three of his points are complete crap. 

 

Me: Hindsight is 20/20 and Bills look like geniuses for both moving on from Tyrod when they did and drafting Allen.

 

 

 

I won't even get into his ridiculous race takes, but it is inconceivable to me that someone who's entire job is to discuss/analyze sports can make the statement that JA doesn't keep his eyes down the field when he runs....  That's so far off, and honestly, embarassing, that he could have such a wrong take.  There's so many examples I can give, but I immediately think of Allen rolling right on 3rd down against Pitt, late in the game, and he fires a bomb down the field to an open Knox who gets tackled by the defender to prevent a TD.

[Not at the table Karlos]

5 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

It's funny because when you hear the term racist you think of a southern white dude, but I have met racists of every color in my life. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, Native American, etc etc...

 

 

Yep. People are people no matter their race or culture. Where there’s people there’s stupidity. 

[DrDawkinstein]

57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Are we still obsessing about these two no marks who other than for this thread I have never even heard of?

 

Seriously?

 

It satisfies the "oppressed white guy" and "blacks are racists too" itches that so many on this board need to constantly scratch.

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

@matter2003, were you on the Broncos message board yesterday?  I was browsing through, and thought I saw a Bills fan with the same name?

 

Haha, yeah, I was attempting to give them some knowledge about their Allen thread but the one who needed it most seemingly wants to live in his own bubble.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

 

Haha, yeah, I was attempting to give them some knowledge about their Allen thread but the one who needed it most seemingly wants to live in his own bubble.

Yeah, that dude was a dip****.  Reminds me of some of the haters here; can’t let go of their preconceived bias and have fall on to their proverbial sword.

[Stank_Nasty]

15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It satisfies the "oppressed white guy" and "blacks are racists too" itches that so many on this board need to constantly scratch.

hmmm.... you'll have to excuse me if i get a bit irritated when a progressive network decides it ok to employ multiple individuals saying white Bills fans only like Allen because they're racist. Earlier in the year, just after Allen got named player of the month, he literally said the only reason Allen is getting hyped is because us white fans dont like the what "color" is making up the top of the qb lists nowadays...... HE EARNED PLAYER OF THE FRIGGIN MONTH.

 

I'd rather not have to satisfy any itch. I'd rather the itch not be there at all. there's no room for that sort of trash.

Edited December 16, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[Mat68]

10 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

The problem that he has is to context. I don't think anyone will say Allen was amazing on Sunday night. He was poor in the 1st half and good in the 2nd half for what I feel is an average game for his standards. They played the #1 Defense and he put up 240 yards and 2 TDs. In the second hald they dominted and took the foot off the petal (which I wish they'd stop doing)

They got a field goal than played 5 min football.  The foot went on the throat and kept it there til the time ran out.  

[JoshAllenReceipts]

7 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

Haha, yeah, I was attempting to give them some knowledge about their Allen thread but the one who needed it most seemingly wants to live in his own bubble.

 

Can u please link the thread?

[Stank_Nasty]

16 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I won't even get into his ridiculous race takes, but it is inconceivable to me that someone who's entire job is to discuss/analyze sports can make the statement that JA doesn't keep his eyes down the field when he runs....  That's so far off, and honestly, embarassing, that he could have such a wrong take.  There's so many examples I can give, but I immediately think of Allen rolling right on 3rd down against Pitt, late in the game, and he fires a bomb down the field to an open Knox who gets tackled by the defender to prevent a TD.

Jones spent a couple of minutes talking about how bad his pocket presence is. Thats absolutely insane. i've been blown away at how he evades pressure with small movements this year and manages a pocket. And blaming race on Taylor vs Allen is just a lazy take. Tyrod was a veteran in regression. There was nothing left there. Comparing a year 2 Allen to a year 6 or 7 taylor is stupid.... honestly the dude needs to take a hard look in the mirror when it comes to his race issues. Or, at the very least, only bring it up when it actually makes sense. We all know its still an issue. But claiming it around every corner just diminishes his message.

 

 

 

 

Whats odd is after all of his Allen "hate" yesterday and through the season.... he admits he's been a top 10 qb this year and even as high as 7 or 8.... So im inclined to believe he quite literally only blasts him to get mentions and attention. 

Edited December 16, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[JoshAllenReceipts]

1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Jones spent a couple of minutes talking about how bad his pocket presence is. Thats absolutely insane. i've been blown away at how he evades pressure with small movements this year and manages a pocket. And blaming race on Taylor vs Allen is just a lazy take. Tyrod was a veteran in regression. There was nothing left there. Comparing a year 2 Allen to a year 6 or 7 taylor is stupid.... honestly the dude needs to take a hard look in the mirror when it comes to his race issues.

 

 

It's his whole schtick. ESPN cosigns his garbage too, because it gets views. If you take his one and only schtick away, Bomani Jones is left with nothing. This is how he makes his money. ESPN loves his ignorance.

[Meatloaf63]

5 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

hmmm.... you'll have to excuse me i get a bit irritated when a progressive network decides it ok to employ multiple individuals saying White Bills fans only like Allen because they're racist. Earlier in the year, just after Allen got named player of the month, he literally said the only reason Allen is getting hyped is because us white fans dont like the what "color" is making up the top of the qb lists nowadays.

 

I'd rather not have to satisfy any itch. I'd rather the itch not be there at all. there's no room for that sort of trash.

I think you’re speaking to someone cut from the same cloth as Bomani  ...

[BigdaddyinOrlando]

So does he dislike Herbert of the chargers because he replaced Tyrod after an injury, which you almost never see, someone losing their spot to injury replacement? Does he dislike the chargers due to this “treatment” of Tyrod?

Tyrod was replaced here because his cieling isn’t even Josh’s floor. Nothing more nothing less

[JoshAllenReceipts]

4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Jones spent a couple of minutes talking about how bad his pocket presence is. Thats absolutely insane. i've been blown away at how he evades pressure with small movements this year and manages a pocket. And blaming race on Taylor vs Allen is just a lazy take. Tyrod was a veteran in regression. There was nothing left there. Comparing a year 2 Allen to a year 6 or 7 taylor is stupid.... honestly the dude needs to take a hard look in the mirror when it comes to his race issues. Or, at the very least, only bring it up when it actually makes sense. We all know its still an issue. But claiming it around every corner just diminishes his message.

 

 

 

 

Whats odd is after ALL of his "hate".... he admits he's been a top 10 qb this year and even as high as 7 or 8.... So im inclined to believe he quite literally only blasts him to get mentions and attention. 

 

"As high as 7 or 8" is a sneaky diss too. You can only possibly make the argument that at worst, he is 4 behind Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson. 4 is the absolute lowest ranking u can put Allen. Putting him at 7 or 8 is underrating him.