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31 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Wow. He still isn't on a team? 

Wow I had no idea there were teams bidding for him .

please correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t there a team ( I can’t remember which ) offered him a one year $17 million and he rejected ? 
I really don’t believe he will get anything north of $20 million 

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Just now, Putin said:

Wow I had no idea there were teams bidding for him 

 

He apparently VASTLY overestimated his market value. Should an agent have tempered his expectations to some degree? He was famous for not being blocked AT ALL on one play in college. He’s certainly a solid player, but he ain’t no Bruce Smith. He’s an upgrade from Shaq Lawson the way I see it.  

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1 minute ago, Saint Doug said:

Don’t worry. He’ll sign with the Pats on a $15M 1-yr deal a week before the season starts. 

 

Do they have any cap space? Isn’t Brady still eating up about $13 mil? 

 

I think Belichick leans more toward paying the CB than the DE. Just guessing. 

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Well they do need pass rushers. Their front 7 is weak. 

 

If they need pash rush....Clowney is a fair option, at best. Maybe if schemed and used more for that? 

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He thinks he's still worth 20 million because that hit against michigan. I think he is a borderline probowl guy but his numbers haven't been great, he makes impact plays from time to time, but not enough to warrant what he's asking. His sack numbers have never been impressive, but he is solid against the run.

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3 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said:

He thinks he's still worth 20 million because that hit against michigan. I think he is a borderline probowl guy but his numbers haven't been great, he makes impact plays from time to time, but not enough to warrant what he's asking. His sack numbers have never been impressive, but he is solid against the run.

He's an above average player but he wants to get paid elite pass rusher money. A lot of teams would love to have him but don't want to shell out the money he wants.

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I think he would of been signed if it wasn’t for this virus shutting things down. 
He missed his window and most teams spent the bulk of their play money. Nobody is signing him without a thorough medical walkthrough given his injury history. He wasn’t getting 20 million but he could of gotten a multi year deal, now he’s looking at more of a 1 year prove it deal. 

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10 hours ago, Saint Doug said:

Don’t worry. He’ll sign with the Pats on a $15M 1-yr deal a week before the season starts. 

His agent will probably finagle a conditional draft pick to the New England Patriots for signing him, under the 'Hire a (NFL) vet' program.  ?

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10 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

He is so overrated.  He’s worth $10-12 mil. at most.  How do you rate this guy so high who can’t even have a big year, even one with JJ on the other side.

 

Pass.

 

Clowney is mostly overrated by....................Clowney. Everyone else seems to be aware of what he’s actually worth, hence the lack of teams lining up to throw money at him. 

 

SURPRISE!!! 

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14 hours ago, Putin said:

Wow I had no idea there were teams bidding for him .

please correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t there a team ( I can’t remember which ) offered him a one year $17 million and he rejected ? 
I really don’t believe he will get anything north of $20 million 

Yeah it was Miami they offered him 17 million and then offered him what he wanted in 20 million and he said no to both. And the contract I believe Miami was offering was a 4-5 year deal, Now Clowney is looking at a 1 year prove it with no guaranteed money or bonus

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15 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Do they have any cap space? Isn’t Brady still eating up about $13 mil? 

 

I think Belichick leans more toward paying the CB than the DE. Just guessing. 

 

If they need pash rush....Clowney is a fair option, at best. Maybe if schemed and used more for that? 

 

They dont have space - they had to work to get cam under.  

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2 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

They dont have space - they had to work to get cam under.  

 

That’s what I thought, and he got next to nothing.

 

I think I read above the Dolphins made him a big offer earlier ($17-20 mil?). I wish he had taken it. He probably does too.  :)

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5 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Clowney is mostly overrated by....................Clowney. Everyone else seems to be aware of what he’s actually worth, hence the lack of teams lining up to throw money at him. 

 

SURPRISE!!! 

 

True, most players tend to overestimate their own value. Clearly he has done this. Should have taken the 17

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7 hours ago, Augie said:

 

That’s what I thought, and he got next to nothing.

 

I think I read above the Dolphins made him a big offer earlier ($17-20 mil?). I wish he had taken it. He probably does too.  :)

The browns reportedly offered him 18. He wants a contender 

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He’s a good player, not a great player. Probably worth $10M-$12M a year. He’s never had double digit sacks in a year and never produced the way he should have as a #1 overall pick and his ego is bruised and his mind is blinded to the fact that he’s not worth as much as he thinks but because he was drafted so high his ego is telling him that he is worth more money. Clowney never became the player he was drafted to be and there is a huge gigantic disconnect between how good he thinks he is versus how good NFL teams think he is. 

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It's just the working of the market. It doesn't feel like it, but it's still early and if a team with a realistic shot at doing postseason damage sees an injury to a pass rusher, he may get what he's now asking for. Or he may have to drop a few mill and take a one-year deal.

 

Either way he'll be just fine

 

 

On 7/9/2020 at 1:26 PM, Rc2catch said:

I think he would of been signed if it wasn’t for this virus shutting things down. 
He missed his window and most teams spent the bulk of their play money. Nobody is signing him without a thorough medical walkthrough given his injury history. He wasn’t getting 20 million but he could of gotten a multi year deal, now he’s looking at more of a 1 year prove it deal. 

 

 

Yeah, the medical thing is a big deal. 

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On 7/8/2020 at 8:44 PM, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I mean he will get signed.  But you’re right, his price tag was absolutely insane.  He wanted a Mario Williams type deal and Mario was way better.  Clowney is a better Shaq Lawson and he had the luxury of playing across from one of the best pass rushers (and WM is really good too). He’s not a game changer.  One of the most overrated players in a long time.  Truly great DEs aren’t looking for their 3rd team in 3 years.

 

i know it’s college but I can’t believe the number 1 overall pick couldn’t get more than 3 sacks his last year in college.  

On 7/9/2020 at 12:05 PM, KD in CA said:


Now that that has been taken care of, hopefully we can get a backup QB thread going.

Matt Barkley sucks and Jake “Elite White” Fromm is Matt Barkley Jr. nice guys I’m sure though.

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