For those that want a RB in the first few rounds

[Bring it]

Rb needs some depth in my opinion. Gore is done and he had a great career!  Yeldon is a big back but lacked the acceleration to exploit holes when open. Really didn’t seem hard to bring down for his size either! Motor was much tougher to tackle after contact than Yeldon.

We need a back that has burst and acceleration. That has good instincts and can wear down d-lines. Like Kenny Davis from back in the day! If the defense let down at all when Thurman was out, Davis made you pay!!

 

This draft is all about depth and acquiring  young talent for the future! Maybe not so much at rb but it’s nice to be where we’re at for a change.

[Einstein's Dog]

The more we discuss the RB early option, the more I am hoping it happens.

 

First, as far as Singletary's confidence.  I think if the front office tells him they are looking for him to take over the Frank Gore role of  veteran RB, Devin will view it as an honor.  And it is.  I hope Singletary has shown he can do the role and the front office gives it to him.  Singletary is a lot better than Gore at this point (and better than the Gore of last year).  Singletary is also better than any vet RB they could pick up in FA - Hyde, Freeman, etc.  And Singletary is cheaper and has many years still left on his first contract.  If you view part of this as Singletary replacing Gore it's easy to see this as a vast improvement over last year.

 

With the early draft pick the Bills can then attempt to find an RB that is better than, or at least equal to, the back they had in Singletary last year.  The RB room gets younger, cheaper, and better.  It's not just a short term boost, it serves an intermediate/long term goal as well.

 

We all know that the RB situation is not finished.  The best avenue to completing this portion of the roster, as outlined above, is clearly through the draft.  If in an incredibly disappointing series of events occur and they are not able to acquire one of the RBs they are targeting, they could then go back into the FA market and pick up one of the vet plodders.

 

It is my optimistic hoping that the FO has told Clowney to hold on and if things break the way they envision they will have freed up enough money (around 18 mill or so) to have him come aboard.  I guy can dream.

[RyanC883]

I get the part about a RB needing to get into rhythm.  I don't think Motor is one of those guys.  HE appears to be able to come in at any point at be up to speed.  So we will need to make sure we draft a RB partner that can also come in and be at 100%.  

 

Your point about Henry is spot-on.  He was good, but not great, when splitting carries with Lewis.  When he was the "lead" he dominated.  

 

I'd love an Ingram/Kamara situation.  I think that's what we are going for.  

[DrDawkinstein]

If our biggest concern is potentially drafting a RB who is so good he takes time away from Singletary, or even pushes Singletary to the RB2 role, then I'd say we are in a very good spot. That's a great problem to have.

 

I am generally against taking a RB early, and would still never take one in the 1st round. But given the way our roster is currently built, if there is a top prospect available at 54, I'd be happy if Beane took him. I'm all about adding weapons to the Offense.

[Sherlock Holmes]

14 hours ago, Virgil said:

I’m probably going to regret this post as it even sounds dumb in my head to a degree, but that’s means it’s perfect for the offseason. 
 

There’s a lot of talk about the Bills getting a RB in rounds 2-4 in April’s draft.  In recent years, your top 3 runningbacks might fall into that range and there’s some serious studs in this years draft.  
 

With that....

 

Does anyone worry about bringing in a guy that could also be a full blown, every down back in with Singletary?   I am of the camp that RB’s need to get into a rhythm throughout a game.  Look at Derrick Henry.  He doesn’t just knock people over out of the gate.  He builds abs builds until he starts busting off long runs in the second half.  
 

Also, I worry about confidence to a certain degree.  Motor isn’t a seasoned vet.  You want people out there who know they are “the guy”.
 

That’s pretty much all I’ve got.  Feel free to tell me how they are all millionaires and there’s no crying in baseball  

I think McCaffrey should be brought in, not to poop on Motor but to compliment him... We could run a lot of 2 RB sets and really open up the threats that would pose to teams...

[ColoradoBills]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

If our biggest concern is potentially drafting a RB who is so good he takes time away from Singletary, or even pushes Singletary to the RB2 role, then I'd say we are in a very good spot. That's a great problem to have.

 

I am generally against taking a RB early, and would still never take one in the 1st round. But given the way our roster is currently built, if there is a top prospect available at 54, I'd be happy if Beane took him. I'm all about adding weapons to the Offense.

 

Well said.  It's the simplest way to improve the offense.

Picking a RB that is good in pass blocking would help even more.

Having 2 RBs that are a real threat will also help keep the opposing teams pass rush honest.

 

I really hope to see a good one drafted in whatever round the right guy is located!

[DrDawkinstein]

7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Well said.  It's the simplest way to improve the offense.

Picking a RB that is good in pass blocking would help even more.

Having 2 RBs that are a real threat will also help keep the opposing teams pass rush honest.

 

I really hope to see a good one drafted in whatever round the right guy is located!

 

I'd also interested in which RB prospects are also good Receivers.

 

Coming out with Diggs/Brown/Beasley, Knox at TE, and a RB gives us the option to split out 5 wide and catch the Defense in a mismatch, or choose to run it if the D decides to play the pass.

[Buffalo Junction]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'd also interested in which RB prospects are also good Receivers.

 

Coming out with Diggs/Brown/Beasley, Knox at TE, and a RB gives us the option to split out 5 wide and catch the Defense in a mismatch, or choose to run it if the D decides to play the pass.

Perine probably has the most experience with that having lined up out wide. Caught 40 passes last season. 
 

I’m still thinking that they may add a WR with backfield experience as well. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked to see them grab a bigger back like Zack Moss and a WR like Bowden who can play RB in a pinch or get utilized for jet sweeps, etc. 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

This team is all about complementary components.  In Mc's scheme, you need a big yardage back and a short yardage back, as we had last season until Gore tailed off.  Plus, change of pace is often quite beneficial in today's NFL.  Bring in a Dobbin or Dillon and we'll be in real good shape.

[DrDawkinstein]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Perine probably has the most experience with that having lined up out wide. Caught 40 passes last season. 
 

I’m still thinking that they may add a WR with backfield experience as well. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked to see them grab a bigger back like Zack Moss and a WR like Bowden who can play RB in a pinch or get utilized for jet sweeps, etc. 

 

I'd be happy with Perine in the 3rd (or better yet the 4th), but not sure the Bills can afford to wait that long if any of the top guys are still there at 54.

[chris heff]

13 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Singletary WILL need a break, and probably miss some games for some reason. We need a legit guy to carry on.  I also like the idea of versatility and being able to attack in different ways, depending upon what we are facing. With no other seriously pressing needs, get that solid RB2 so we don’t miss a beat. 

Yesterday I watched first half of last season condensed version on Game Pass. Gore was done by the Washington game, from that point on when Singletary was rested the running game was Josh or jet sweeps. They need a second RB.

[stinky finger]

14 hours ago, Dopey said:

Not worried about Devin's confidence. May the best man win.

 

I think it’s essential to have 2 quality backs. We have 1.

 

I wouldn’t get caught up in who’s the starter, how many plays/carries. Opponent and circumstance will dictate that. 

 

Just get another quality RB

[Augie]

50 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Yesterday I watched first half of last season condensed version on Game Pass. Gore was done by the Washington game, from that point on when Singletary was rested the running game was Josh or jet sweeps. They need a second RB.

 

Gee, I wonder if the other professional football teams and coaches might have noticed the same thing? We need more playmaking options, and the Bills have come right out and told us that. It’s no secret. The only question is who do they really like, and how high are they willing to take a RB. 

 

 

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Edited March 30, 2020 by Augie

[billsfan89]

They don't need to pick a RB in round 2 or 3. Good RB's can be found in rounds 4 or 5. I would love this team to eye Edge in round 2 and WR in round 3 (they need depth behind Diggs, Beasley, and Brown plus they need some youth at the position, they are one injury away from the offense being last years offense) or even CB with one of those picks over RB. With Singletary and Yeldon RB is more of a role player need than a I must have it filled at pick 54 type need. 

 

Singletary is a good RB, Yeldon is a solid 3rd down depth back. They need an early down grinder which I think you can find in round 4 or 5. Whereas the need to secure another upgrade to the pass rush off the edge and get younger behind a very old group is much more pressing and hard to fill. Adding a good WR behind the big 3 to get younger and depth is also more pressing. RB is not a need you can't fill later in the draft. 

[maryland-bills-fan]

3 hours ago, ChattanoogaBills said:

I dont see us drafting dobbins, taylor , or swift in the 2nd round. I seriously doubt we go rb before round 3 this draft. 

I keep looking for any poster here to add in pass protection/blitz pick up as a attribute for drafting the rb they want. Pass pro mistakes kept yeldon on the bench for most of the year. Yeldon was terrible at blitz pick up for us. D. Freeman (atl) is also terrible at blitz pick up.

Personally I'd love getting Akers in the 3rd possibly trading by down from our 2nd rd pick to the early mid 3rd. 

AJ Dillon and Antonio Gibson are my other hopefuls from 3rd to 5th rd . Seriously if McBeane think that Z. Moss is their guy but only rank him 128 on their overall board. Why would they take a different rb in the 2nd OR even take Moss before the 4th round in that scenario.

 

One other point I'd like to make is just because 90% of the board has little to no faith in Christian Wade stepping up this season. Doesnt mean the ACTUAL people (Mc'beane) dont already know that he WILL be able to handle that responsibility easily.

It will be very interesting to see what our FO does with this position going foward.

Either way in Mc'Beane i trust.

Go Bills

Dobbins, Taylor or Swift will probably not make it to #54, Edeards Helair might and Akers will never last until #86. You might check out some mock drafts.

[Buffalo Junction]

34 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'd be happy with Perine in the 3rd (or better yet the 4th), but not sure the Bills can afford to wait that long if any of the top guys are still there at 54.

I doubt he goes before the 4th. He’s good at a lot of things, but he doesn’t seem to have any outstanding physical traits. He has excellent vision and can press the LOS though, so with a good Oline he could do serious damage. 

[maryland-bills-fan]

3 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

This is year 3, the Go For It year for Beaner, our QB doesn't take up $30M off our cap yet and we have seen what that does to teams like Seattle, GB, Detroit etc.   It can impair your ability to get free agents and keep your studs.

 

With that in mind, I think we may see a little more tendency to draft for need than pure BPA simply because there are only a few spots a rookie can help us win games this season.  Our entire offense is returning plus a great new receiver who is worth 100 targets.  

      Last year our offense looked (roughly) like this: 500 throws by josh, who also ran 100 times, and we handed off about 350 times, Motor getting 150 of those carries.  He didn't play the full season, so likely Daboll is looking at getting the kid 200 handoffs this year.  He has to. No RB in the world with over 150 carries last year had a better yard per carry than Singletary.  Not Derrick Henry, Saquon, McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook--nobody.  

     That leaves room for a 100-125 carry RB2, which will be a big piece of our puzzle this year.  The guy will be roughly 10% of our offense, a perfect rookie role and the only way I see a new kid helping us win on offense.  There are longshots at RT, maybe TE2, but I think Beaner will be going RB for the 1st offensive draft pick for this reason.  We need a sharp kid who can protect and run hard, be ready to go on opening day.

 

Aaaaaand thats where you look to Astro for answers.  

 

[1] Beane takes advantage of what will be in the draft around our pick.  [2] Beane uses the draft to get difference maker players, and get them cheaply on rookie contracts. [3] what he did this year was use FA to improve the offensive and defensive lines, and NOT the running back position, where we don't have a second running back. [4] because one of the top 5 RB will be drafted using our 2nd round pick and whatever else is necessary to get a TD difference maker and break away threat to help Allen.  That RB will be the BPA at our pick (or move up). [5] If there is a run on the RB's that is beyond our reach, we lose and will get JAG using the 3rd round pick and use BPA at #54.  LB or CB.

[Just Joshin']

Two good backs are required in the current NFL.  Spread the load when healthy, contingency ready if one is hurt.

 

What you need to avoid is the second back being one dimensional.  The pass or run threat must be real or the opposing DC gets to defend half the playbook.

[CardinalScotts]

21 hours ago, Lurker said:

All I know is I want an RB2 who doesn't miss a beat and executes the same offense as RB1 with virtually no drop off.    Not like Gore, who literrally wasted downs during the second half of the season...

two headed monster will take a veteran who still has tread on the tire and will cost....they wont do this. It will be a guy can we get 450-500 yds out of him >?

[OldTimer1960]

7 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

They don't need to pick a RB in round 2 or 3. Good RB's can be found in rounds 4 or 5. I would love this team to eye Edge in round 2 and WR in round 3 (they need depth behind Diggs, Beasley, and Brown plus they need some youth at the position, they are one injury away from the offense being last years offense) or even CB with one of those picks over RB. With Singletary and Yeldon RB is more of a role player need than a I must have it filled at pick 54 type need. 

 

Singletary is a good RB, Yeldon is a solid 3rd down depth back. They need an early down grinder which I think you can find in round 4 or 5. Whereas the need to secure another upgrade to the pass rush off the edge and get younger behind a very old group is much more pressing and hard to fill. Adding a good WR behind the big 3 to get younger and depth is also more pressing. RB is not a need you can't fill later in the draft. 

So, who is the good edge prospect?  Do they think enough of Okwara or Greenard  to take them there?  I think that Anae and Weaver were highly productive, but don’t look like the kind of athlete that would warrant that high a pick.  
 

I do think they could find a good CB prospect there.

[NoSaint]

23 hours ago, blacklabel said:

Nah, I wouldn't worry about that. McDermott's program is all about doing your part. They want a balanced team full of players that compliment each other well. When your number is called, go do your job, simple as that. I'm sure if they had a situation where one guy became the hot hand, they'd roll with him for most of the game. But we know McDermott really loves his rotations and keeping guys fresh. 

 

And for the most part, the days of the 25+ carries a game/workhorse type of back are over. Unless you're Derrick Henry, most teams feature two backs with either a pretty even split on snap counts or a lead guy who goes for 70-75% of the snaps and steps out when he needs a breath. That's mah best guess anyway. Been sitting around the house going on two weeks now, my daily routine is all jacked up and I think my brain is going to mush so my opinion could be as valuable as a poopy-flavored lollypop at this point. 

25+ per game is largely a myth. That’s 400+ carries. Very few have ever done it and it’s ruined careers.

 

in this offense I expect one back at 15 carries, the other at 10 a game and over a season they split about 75-100 catches.

 

If our RB2 totals 200 touches then he’s worth a solid pick.

[Mat68]

Last year after October Gore killed drives and squandered momentum.  Yeldon is decent but has had a fumbling issue his entire NFL career.  To generate more points the Bills need a better back on the feild when Singeltary isnt.  In terms of depth of positions and draft position offensive skill player should the pick at 54. 

 

Both Rb and Wr are deep position groups this year.  I believe Buffalo will have a chance at a player at one of those positions that would have been in play at 22.  The depth at edge seems to be thin imo.  

 

I understand that Rbs are dime a dozen.  Compatent players can be found on day 3, off the street, or undrafted.  Those players are limited in their ability though.  The early you draft the more things they can do.  The less predictable the plays called are.

[billrooter]

23 hours ago, Virgil said:

Can someone please explain this to to me about or DB issue that many think we have?

 

Tre, Wallace, Neal should be our 3 starters   
 

Then, if any of them pan out Normal, Gaines, and Johnson. 
 

Where’s the gap exactly?  
 

The only thing I can think is people are afraid of losing Wallace and you are drafting for next year?   But then, draft them next year.  Anyone you bring in over the first 3 rounds should be a starter and I don’t know when this rookie would play. I’m really looking forward to Neal in training camp as he showed great flashes last year.  I don’t see Wallace losing his job.  

  I disagree I think that Taron Johnson should be the slot guy on most snaps, Neal in there ocassionally. I also believe and hope either Gaines or Norman start over Levi Wallace but competition all the way.

[Motor26]

Devin being so small and the only backup with NFL experience being Yeldon makes me want a back. But I’m not sure I’d want him in the 2nd round. Think they could get a good one in the 4th or 5th. 

[maryland-bills-fan]

 

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RUNNING BACK

Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller, Devonta Freeman

After signing one Texans running back (Taiwan Jones), the Bills could go back and add another former Houston back. Both of their backs from last season, Lamar Miller and Carlos Hyde, are available.

Miller is coming off of a torn ACL in last year’s preseason, but has been an effective back in his career. He has rushed for 880 yards or more from 2014-2018 and is a terrific receiver.

Hyde is coming off of a 1,000 yard season, but his market has been limited. He doesn’t bring as much to the Bills from a receiving standpoint as Miller, but he showed that he can still be an effective runner (245-1,070-6) in 2019.

As of last week, a source close to Devonta Freeman told NYUP that the Bills had not made any contact in regards to the back. They made a point to add that this could always change. The longer that Freeman remains a free agent, the likelier it is that his price tag will come down. At some point, Buffalo may see value in the back. Freeman is coming off of a 184-656-2 stat line in 2019.

 

Gee,  the Bills haven't made contact with either of these guys,,,,,, but some people still are suggesting we are going to pick them up as FA.

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2020/03/free-agency-2020-10-players-buffalo-bills-should-consider-signing.html

[maryland-bills-fan]

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Ok, sorry for the eye chart but I can't figure out how to put a nice easy to read excel table into a post.  I've put the draft position of RB's into groups of 8 picks (octaves) to make thing simplier (right!).  I looked at ten 3-round mock drafts and top 100 player lists.    This gives an idea about how those sorts of people view the RB and the draft.   Yes they are wrong most of the time but they probably know more than me, although some are obviously idiots.  I think Beane has a plan for getting our 2nd running back on the basis of our second round pick.  Swift looks out of reach for us,  Dobbins may fall to us and Taylor might be available with a trade up.  If some team starts a run on running backs, all bets are off.   Swift             end of 1st Taylor          early 2nd Dobbins       2nd half of 2nd round EH                top of 3rd round Akers          bottom of 3rd round Moss          middle of 3rd round   Basically our options for moving up are as follows.  Of course you have to find a partner to dance.   #54               R2 pick and stay pat......................  Could get Dobbins. ..............Probably get EH or Akers #45              R2, R4, R5 picks.  Move up to middle 2nd quarter of 2nd round. .........Dobbins and a shot at Taylor #38              R2, R3 picks.  Move up to  first quarter of 2nd round .......Dobbins for sure, ,,Taylor possible,   shot at Swift? #33              R2, R3, R4 picks.  Move up to the top of the 2nd round  ......good  shot at Taylor,..... some chance at Swift   #31              R2, R3, next years R2   Bottom of first round.

Edited March 31, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan

[DCOrange]

4 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Basically our options for moving up are as follows.  Of course you have to find a partner to dance.   #54               R2 pick and stay pat......................  Could get Dobbins. ..............Probably get EH or Akers #45              R2, R4, R5 picks.  Move up to middle 2nd quarter of 2nd round. .........Dobbins and a shot at Taylor #38              R2, R3 picks.  Move up to  first quarter of 2nd round .......Dobbins for sure, ,,Taylor possible,   shot at Swift? #33              R2, R3, R4 picks.  Move up to the top of the 2nd round  ......good  shot at Taylor,..... some chance at Swift   #31              R2, R3, next years R2   Bottom of first round.

I would definitely prefer to just stay at 54 rather than trading up for a RB, especially considering we're very likely to end up with one of the top 4 being there at 54 or at worst getting Moss/Akers in the 3rd.

[BarleyNY]

On 3/30/2020 at 1:55 PM, Just Joshin' said:

Two good backs are required in the current NFL.  Spread the load when healthy, contingency ready if one is hurt.

 

What you need to avoid is the second back being one dimensional.  The pass or run threat must be real or the opposing DC gets to defend half the playbook.

I agree.  People talk about how good Singletary was last season.  He was.  But then I think about what adding another back who is even better than him.  Someone like Dobbins.  Damn.  That would be awesome for this offense.  They could split the workload almost evenly.  Always a fresh, high quality back on the field to wear down defenses.  That would also alleviate a big worry: that we don’t get a second quality back and the workload gets Singletary injured so we are left with zero good RBs by the end of the season and playoffs.  Another quality RB is definitely my top need for this offense at the moment.  

Edited March 31, 2020 by BarleyNY

[MrSarcasm]

I've said it before and I'll say it again RB is the least valuable position in the NFL currently when you look at it from top to bottom.  Given the choice between a stud RB and a stud punter, I'd take the punter.  With that said I don't mind taking a RB in rounds 3-7 but anything prior is just a waste of resources. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

21 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Dobbins, Taylor or Swift will probably not make it to #54, Edeards Helair might and Akers will never last until #86. You might check out some mock drafts.

 

Mock drafts create this consensus that they are right, and that the player values are the same for them as other teams.  They aren't.  There are guys projected in rounds 4 and 5 that will go undrafted. 

 

Adding on the fact that pro-days and meetings are basically cancelled?  This is going to be a cluster of a draft IMO.  

 

13 minutes ago, MrSarcasm said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again RB is the least valuable position in the NFL currently when you look at it from top to bottom.  Given the choice between a stud RB and a stud punter, I'd take the punter.  With that said I don't mind taking a RB in rounds 3-7 but anything prior is just a waste of resources. 

 

Over 100 touches - a good RB might rush for 4.5 YPC, and a bad one 3.5.  That's 100 yards over 100 touches.  A good punter over the course of a season might punt say 50 times and the league leader in net avg was 44.5, ours was 38.2.  That's a difference of 315 yards over the course of 50 "touches".  Obviously this is a vast oversimplification of value - RBs have value in the passing game/pass protection, punters can be evaluated on other factors like Fair Catches and IN20 vs. TB% etc.  

Edited March 31, 2020 by dneveu

[Mojo44]

I agree that good running backs can often be found in later rounds. However I disagree with several posters who say running backs are “a dime a dozen“. Good running backs are not THAT prevalent. I absolutely do believe that we need a complementary running back to Devin who is a weapon and not just a fill in. I think this would make the offense that much better. It’s probably unlikely that they will take a running back in the second round. However, if it is determined that the best player available at that point is a running back I could see them pulling the trigger. I’m not a fan of Yeldon at all.So if they don’t get one in free agency I would be surprised if they don’t take one in the draft and may be earlier than a lot of people think.

[Reed83HOF]

22 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'd also interested in which RB prospects are also good Receivers.

 

Coming out with Diggs/Brown/Beasley, Knox at TE, and a RB gives us the option to split out 5 wide and catch the Defense in a mismatch, or choose to run it if the D decides to play the pass.

100% agree. When x comes in and can only run and isn't a pass catching threat, it takes potential plays off the board. I am all about creating mismatches and exploiting them.

[Buffalo Junction]

7 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

Mock drafts create this consensus that they are right, and that the player values are the same for them as other teams.  They aren't.  

 

Adding on the fact that pro-days and meetings are basically cancelled?  This is going to be a cluster of a draft IMO.  

I’m not so sure that the draft will be a cluster F. Most of the scouting was done shortly after the combine. The more organized front offices will likely do better this year than less organized GMs. The big change up is that some prospects with medical concerns or character questions will probably drop further. We’re not privy to all that information, so it may seem that some of these kids dropped for no reason. 

[maryland-bills-fan]

8 minutes ago, Mojo44 said:

I agree that good running backs can often be found in later rounds. However I disagree with several posters who say running backs are “a dime a dozen“. Good running backs are not THAT prevalent. I absolutely do believe that we need a complementary running back to Devin who is a weapon and not just a fill in. I think this would make the offense that much better. It’s probably unlikely that they will take a running back in the second round. However, if it is determined that the best player available at that point is a running back I could see them pulling the trigger. I’m not a fan of Yeldon at all.So if they don’t get one in free agency I would be surprised if they don’t take one in the draft and may be earlier than a lot of people think.

My opinion is that the mock drafts indicate that there are good running backs that the professional NFL teams will draft in the first, second and third round.  I guess, somehow, we have a lot of armchair experts, whose job doesn't require them to make right decisions about their teams, who are so much smarter.  I just wonder why they haven't been offered 6 figure salary jobs with NFL front offices yet.

25 minutes ago, MrSarcasm said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again RB is the least valuable position in the NFL currently when you look at it from top to bottom.  Given the choice between a stud RB and a stud punter, I'd take the punter.  With that said I don't mind taking a RB in rounds 3-7 but anything prior is just a waste of resources. 

Of course.  Every year, 8 punters are drafted before the first running back.

Edited March 31, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan

[DJB]

I think we need to get a guy who not only compliments Motor but also is an upgrade on him too. 

 

Singletary would become the best backup RB in the league. 

 

Dobbins

Swift

Taylor

Akers

CEH

 

Would all supplant Singletary as the best RB on the roster. 

[Lurker]

23 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

100% agree. When x comes in and can only run and isn't a pass catching threat, it takes potential plays off the board. I am all about creating mismatches and exploiting them.

 

That is 110% of why I want Clyde Edwards-Helaire.    He's Thurman Thomas 2.0, which would make this offense on par with Kansas City if all the parts work together...

[DCOrange]

36 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

100% agree. When x comes in and can only run and isn't a pass catching threat, it takes potential plays off the board. I am all about creating mismatches and exploiting them.

Yep, this is one of the reasons why I don't want any part of AJ Dillon personally. Him being in the game will tell teams what we're doing (and also probably force us into formations that invite the defense to stack the line as well).

[ChattanoogaBills]

22 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Dobbins, Taylor or Swift will probably not make it to #54, Edeards Helair might and Akers will never last until #86. You might check out some mock drafts.

Yeah while i do read mock drafts i dont put much stock in them. The rb i want is Dillon who "mocked" as a 5th rd pick so I definitely wouldn't spend a 2nd on a RB. I haven't seen a mock that got our 2nd round pick correct in years. Plus while i do think RB is a need. I seriously doubt Beane and co think its as big a need as this board does.  Especially with Christian Wade on the team improving everyday.

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by ChattanoogaBills

[BuffaloRebound]

I like Edwards Helaire too but for pick 54 it will be hard to pass over vertical threats like Aiyuk, Reagor, Mims, Shenault, Hamler, Higgins, even Kmet, and then the more dynamic RB’s like Swift, Taylor, and Dobbins.  I think all 10 of those guys would have to be gone to consider Edwards Helaire at 54.  Hard to imagine all 10 of those guys being off the board at pick 54.  

[ChattanoogaBills]

29 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

Yep, this is one of the reasons why I don't want any part of AJ Dillon personally. Him being in the game will tell teams what we're doing (and also probably force us into formations that invite the defense to stack the line as well).

Then we would play action the defense and have huge passing lanes for our wr's and te's. Plus Dillon can catch and we'vee seen Pat Dimarco split wide so why not split out Dillon.