CheshireCT Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I was just thinking, when is the last time we had a stud TE? We know what difference that makes in an offense, yet we've always had too many other pressing needs. After FA, we don't really have "holes." If we can get an awesome TE in the draft, it would be the icing on the cake. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I agree but is there a stud TE in this draft? Even more so a stud still there when we pick? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Yea this year's Tight End class isn't as strong as last year's. Dawson Knox would likely be in the conversation as a possible round 2 guy this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Really? You were ‘just thinking’, so you decided to start a thread for thousands of others to ‘just think’? WTH makes you “think” a stud Tight End is even in this Draft, let alone with the 54th pick? 2 10 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, CheshireCT said: I was just thinking, when is the last time we had a stud TE? We know what difference that makes in an offense, yet we've always had too many other pressing needs. After FA, we don't really have "holes." If we can get an awesome TE in the draft, it would be the icing on the cake. I have no words as far as this thread is concerned. But hey! I used to work in CheshireCT when I lived in CT. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 hours ago, BritBill said: I agree but is there a stud TE in this draft? Even more so a stud still there when we pick? I haven't investigated to be honest. I would think there must be a couple of guys out there, but I could be wrong! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 We had our chance with Hooper, but we didn’t pull the trigger. The Syracuse article about the Baylor WR was interesting and maybe a better option now given the FA TE market is pretty much dead and the draft is light on TE’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, machine gun kelly said: We had our chance with Hooper, but we didn’t pull the trigger. The Syracuse article about the Baylor WR was interesting and maybe a better option now given the FA TE market is pretty much dead and the draft is light on TE’s. I see. What a pity. I was just thinking TE is often great value in the 1st/2nd round. Gronk was a late first if I recall and Martellus Bennett was a 2nd (also as I recall). Seems usually GMs don't take a TE in the high rounds unless they really have a stable roster already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 The issue is that TEs historically take 2-3 years to develop to the point of being good & true contributors. Gronk & Kelce are recent outliers but Gates, Graham, Witten, etc. we’re Drafted in Rounds 3-4, and took a couple years to be worth the pick. Knox had a very Rookie year last year, Sweeney showed flashes of what a decent 2nd TE could be in the future and a 3rd TE at this point is more for what Smith does, blocking. Now, IMO - I’m not opposed to a TE being Drafted but given the need for a second RB, more CB depth and a young Edge to develop, a TE takes a 4th Round priority. That said, if Beane sees an Ertz or Kelce in the 2nd Round, then I trust Beane to know that and I support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: The issue is that TEs historically take 2-3 years to develop to the point of being good & true contributors. Gronk & Kelce are recent outliers but Gates, Graham, Witten, etc. we’re Drafted in Rounds 3-4, and took a couple years to be worth the pick. Knox had a very Rookie year last year, Sweeney showed flashes of what a decent 2nd TE could be in the future and a 3rd TE at this point is more for what Smith does, blocking. Now, IMO - I’m not opposed to a TE being Drafted but given the need for a second RB, more CB depth and a young Edge to develop, a TE takes a 4th Round priority. That said, if Beane sees an Ertz or Kelce in the 2nd Round, then I trust Beane to know that and I support it. No! stop it with the TE talk. You are about to waste a pick, relax we are ok at TE. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 No. End thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 NOT happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I don't think TE is a huge need, I have a lot of faith in Knox, but still think Beane should draft one. Okwuegbunam was a guy that in 2019 people were projecting to be the next top 10 TE pick. I'm not sure what happened to him to lessen the hype in 2020 - I've read a big downgrade in his college QB (Lock to whoever) and maturity problems caused him to have a lackluster 2019 season - but if Beane can get his head back on track I think he would be a good pick to develop along with Knox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 This is another one of those "not everyone should be able to start new posts" examples, I hate to say... 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I’d like to see the Bills take a quality TE in the draft. There’s not a lot of good prospects this year though. From what I have been reading Trautman from Dayton is the best, most complete in-line prospect though he’ll need some development. He actually looks a lot like Knox on paper. If we’re wanting more of a flex TE somebody like Hunter Bryant in the 3rd would be a good pickup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 We have Knox and we also have Sweeney, he could also make a leap in production next year. They are the future of this team at the position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 53 minutes ago, Bigantall said: No! stop it with the TE talk. You are about to waste a pick, relax we are ok at TE. If you read what I wrote carefully, my advocacy for Draft picks was for RB / CB / Edge but that if Beane believes a TE is worth any pick at any point, IMHO, he and his team have done enough to warrant my trust, despite my personal doubts or objections. Having said that, TE is arguably one of the *current* weakest positions largely due to the unknown in Knox / Sweeney and that the Bills have a marvelous job of building depth in nearly every other position group. The other group that is screaming for quality depth? Running Back...Corner could be an issue if Norman doesn't rise to the occasion and Edge merely because of age, hence why I said those three before TE and the fact that Knox / Sweeney do seem promising, but when you an opportunity to elevate the play of a position group by Drafting well - you take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fixxxer said: We have Knox and we also have Sweeney, he could also make a leap in production next year. They are the future of this team at the position. 2 for 2 on stud Tight Ends drafted in round 4 and 7 of the same draft year is unprecedented and going all in on that, even a year later, is silly - in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CheshireCT Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: If you read what I wrote carefully, my advocacy for Draft picks was for RB / CB / Edge but that if Beane believes a TE is worth any pick at any point, IMHO, he and his team have done enough to warrant my trust, despite my personal doubts or objections. Having said that, TE is arguably one of the *current* weakest positions largely due to the unknown in Knox / Sweeney and that the Bills have a marvelous job of building depth in nearly every other position group. The other group that is screaming for quality depth? Running Back...Corner could be an issue if Norman doesn't rise to the occasion and Edge merely because of age, hence why I said those three before TE and the fact that Knox / Sweeney do seem promising, but when you an opportunity to elevate the play of a position group by Drafting well - you take it. I'm with you on that, both show potential to be good players, but an elite talent is something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Not really seeing a TE in our 2nd Round future, but the two best TE's in this draft will likely be (1)Cole Kmet from Notre Dame and (2)Bryce Hopkins from Purdue. The Missouri kid, not even going to try to spell his name, has a ton of upside athletically as well. The class overall is not as strong as last year, but there will be at least some guys who can make an impact. Kmet is a complete prospect who has good size, good speed, can block, runs solid routes, and has good hands. Hopkins is an excellent receiving option, but I can't say I know much about his blocking prowess. Don't really know much else. Edited March 26, 2020 by H2o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I’d love to pick up Harrison Bryant from FAU, but I’m not sure we are looking at TE in early rounds of the draft. Especially after taking 2 last year. Beane has positioned this roster heading into the draft with no glaring weaknesses. I think they end up going DE, WR, OT, DB, or RB with that second rounder. My preference would be DE or WR based on what we’ve done in free agency so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I’m hoping it’s WR, DE or RB. In an ideal world Jonathan Taylor or JK Dobbins slides to us with our first pick. Mims, Reagor, Claypool, Higgins or Jefferson would be a nice consolation prize if one of them slides to us. If all else fails I’d look to Curtis Weaver, Kenny Willekes or Alton Robinson and add a blue chip DE prospect to ease into the rotation, maybe trade down and take Willekes or Robinson RD2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) How many TE's do we need, I believe we have 6 ?? Hoarding, it's a horrible thing... Edited March 26, 2020 by HOUSE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 at this point Knox could be that player....take a wait and see approach we need an edge guy much more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 hours ago, CheshireCT said: I was just thinking, when is the last time we had a stud TE? We know what difference that makes in an offense, yet we've always had too many other pressing needs. After FA, we don't really have "holes." If we can get an awesome TE in the draft, it would be the icing on the cake. We have Knox, Sweeney and Kroft and you want to draft another TE with our 1st pick, Really! Pretty safe to say the Bills aren't drafting a TE with their 1st pick, dumb thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Thaddeus Moss, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, H2o said: Not really seeing a TE in our 2nd Round future, but the two best TE's in this draft will likely be (1)Cole Kmet from Notre Dame and (2)Bryce Hopkins from Purdue. The Missouri kid, not even going to try to spell him name, has a ton of upside athletically as well. The class overall is not as strong as last year, but there will be at least some guys who can make an impact. Kmet is a complete prospect who has good size, good speed, can block, runs solid routes, and has good hands. Hopkins is an excellent receiving option, but I can't say I know much about his blocking prowess. Don't really know much else. Kmet is clearly the best tight end in the class. I think he is a solid tight end prospect. He isn't Hockenson or Fant or OJ Howard but he is a solid round 2 talent. After that I have a little cluster of guys I think are really 3rd or 4th rounders that includes both the Bryants (Hunter and Harrison), Hopkins and the Missouri kid.... whose name I am also not going to attempt. Dawson Knox was my #7 tight end last year. He would be my #4 tight end this year. EDIT: Should have added Josiah Deguara to my little cluster as well he is in that mix in my mind. I really like him. Also to say I think Kmet could sneak into the late 1st and at least a couple of others will go in the 2nd. But they will be people reaching down the board for need at the position. Edited March 26, 2020 by GunnerBill 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, HOUSE said: How Many Tight Ends do we really need ? If only most of them had more value than what's in that shopping cart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 hours ago, CheshireCT said: I was just thinking, when is the last time we had a stud TE? We know what difference that makes in an offense, yet we've always had too many other pressing needs. After FA, we don't really have "holes." If we can get an awesome TE in the draft, it would be the icing on the cake. 2 hours ago, CheshireCT said: I haven't investigated to be honest. I would think there must be a couple of guys out there, but I could be wrong! 2 hours ago, CheshireCT said: I see. What a pity. I was just thinking TE is often great value in the 1st/2nd round. Gronk was a late first if I recall and Martellus Bennett was a 2nd (also as I recall). Seems usually GMs don't take a TE in the high rounds unless they really have a stable roster already. Less thinking out loud, more research to know what you're talking about please. Knox is going to be our stud in an already deep TE group. We need other positions more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 As 1manraid just said Knox is that tight end until proven otherwise. Knox presents matchup nightmares just like the Kittles and Kelces of the world. With time running routes and work on his hands he already has the tools to be a stud tight end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 My boy Dalton Keene on day 3 please and thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sherlock Holmes Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 hours ago, CheshireCT said: I see. What a pity. I was just thinking TE is often great value in the 1st/2nd round. Gronk was a late first if I recall and Martellus Bennett was a 2nd (also as I recall). Seems usually GMs don't take a TE in the high rounds unless they really have a stable roster already. How do you forget that we made one of the biggest draft blunders ever, Gronl was picked 2nd round right after we picked Torrell Troup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Uh uh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 hours ago, CheshireCT said: I see. What a pity. I was just thinking TE is often great value in the 1st/2nd round. Gronk was a late first if I recall and Martellus Bennett was a 2nd (also as I recall). Seems usually GMs don't take a TE in the high rounds unless they really have a stable roster already. You take a TE when there is a TE worthy of that pick. The same is true for every position but QB. You can’t just take a TE in the 2nd round if there isn’t a TE worth the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Less thinking out loud, more research to know what you're talking about please. Knox is going to be our stud in an already deep TE group. We need other positions more. Is this sarcasm? Irony? Both? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 If we can get Kmet im round 2 you do it... honestly we need to score more point. McDermott has admitted this. So far we have only added one offensive piece. Sure Diggs was huge but we will need more to really make a difference. And what better way then adding a guy like Kmet. We are still short at reciever so adding a tall redzone threat atcthe very least in the passing game. Just having a big target will help us score more points. And this isnt to mention he is a tremendous blocking TE. And with Ford being so young. Having a TE blocking on the right side of the line would be huge. He can help our run game and our pass game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Dawson Knox will be a top TE in the next few years. He stretches the field and is tough to bring down. Rookies drop passes and miss blocks but with a full year under his belt and good coaching , I'm confident he will take a big step forward this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r henderson Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 This would be your guy if he last to the 54th pick. https://www.youtube.com/nbcsports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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