MAJBobby Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, DJB said: We dont know the cost for Gordon yet so it's not possible to debate whether we overpaid or not. Don’t know the exact number but we know it will be towards the higher end for RB’s. The only way I see them doing it is if they don’t see Singletary as a #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 On a side/related note with the Todd Gurley news... The Rams should be a cautionary tale for anyone promoting the "ALL-IN" approach to roster building. They were legit contenders for roughly two seasons, and are now watching everything fall apart. Salary cap hell and players getting cut. No draft selections to rebuild the roster. Brandon Beane has stated he wants this team built for the long-haul. They are not going to mortgage everything for a small window at the Super Bowl. They believe the best road to a Super Bowl is consistently fielding a contender year-after-year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 ...I agree with looking at Gordon....in my rear view mirror though.............. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: If you have two lead backs, you’ll have to feed them both....which means we will be passing less. If we hadn’t just given up a 1st for Diggs, I would be more open to Gordon. Singletary isn’t a lead back unless you like fumbling and getting both your RB and QB killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, mjt328 said: On a side/related note with the Todd Gurley news... The Rams should be a cautionary tale for anyone promoting the "ALL-IN" approach to roster building. They were legit contenders for roughly two seasons, and are now watching everything fall apart. Salary cap hell and players getting cut. No draft selections to rebuild the roster. Brandon Beane has stated he wants this team built for the long-haul. They are not going to mortgage everything for a small window at the Super Bowl. They believe the best road to a Super Bowl is consistently fielding a contender year-after-year. They're in trouble now with a mediocre QB counting for $36M on their cap, but when he was on a rookie deal that they capitalized on their window, went all-in and won the NFC. They're an example of the rewards of making bold choices when the opportunity to win is there. The precautionary part is don't pay Josh if he's not worth it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 ....according to published reports, Bolts offered $10 mil/yr (no onfo on guaranteed $$) but that he was looking for $13 mil.....seriously Melvin?? Melvin Gordon stats Career stats Year Team ATT YDS AVG TD REC YDS AVG TD 2019 Chargers 162 612 3.8 8 42 296 7.0 1 2018 Chargers 175 885 5.1 10 50 490 9.8 4 2017 Chargers 284 1,105 3.9 8 58 476 8.2 4 2016 Chargers 254 997 3.9 10 41 419 10.2 2 2015 Chargers 184 641 3.5 0 33 192 5.8 0 Career 1,059 4,240 4.0 36 224 1,873 8.4 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....according to published reports, Bolts offered $10 mil/yr (no onfo on guaranteed $$) but that he was looking for $13 mil.....seriously Melvin?? Melvin Gordon stats Career stats Year Team ATT YDS AVG TD REC YDS AVG TD 2019 Chargers 162 612 3.8 8 42 296 7.0 1 2018 Chargers 175 885 5.1 10 50 490 9.8 4 2017 Chargers 284 1,105 3.9 8 58 476 8.2 4 2016 Chargers 254 997 3.9 10 41 419 10.2 2 2015 Chargers 184 641 3.5 0 33 192 5.8 0 Career 1,059 4,240 4.0 36 224 1,873 8.4 11 It was low guaranteed money. That # was leaked by the team. Similar to Bell situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: He might have to now that he sees his market isn’t as big as he thought it would be I would imagine he just signs a 1 year deal in the hopes that he gets paid next offseason. Something like 1 year $6-8 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 If it Bucs or us, I don’t like our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It was low guaranteed money. That # was leaked by the team. Similar to Bell situation ...still pass......hardly excelled in a contract year or was that not his fault bud?...just askin'............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: If it Bucs or us, I don’t like our chances. Bucs don’t have any money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Bucs don’t have any money Teams always find ways to make it work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Gordon or Gurley Gurley seems to me like a modern day Shaun Alexander. Tons of touches with a physical style. 2 or 3 years of elite production and the wheels wore right off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: If it Bucs or us, I don’t like our chances. Yeah because the Bucs are such a football haven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, njbuff said: Yeah because the Bucs are such a football haven. they are for the next year or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: They're in trouble now with a mediocre QB counting for $36M on their cap, but when he was on a rookie deal that they capitalized on their window, went all-in and won the NFC. They're an example of the rewards of making bold choices when the opportunity to win is there. The precautionary part is don't pay Josh if he's not worth it Jared Goff is certainly part of the problem. But the team would still be in deep cap trouble, even if Goff was playing really well. And if it wasn't for that terrible no-call against the Saints, the Rams wouldn't have even gotten to the NFC Championship game. I always hated the Rams approach. Thanks to their cap situation and lack of draft capitol, it may be 2-3 more seasons before they are even back into playoff contention. Personally, I prefer the New England approach. It's not about amassing a group of superstars, and making one desperate shot at the trophy. It's about building a cohesive and consistent team that can compete every single year, regardless of injuries, free agency, etc. If you can constantly field a team that wins 70-75% of your games for 10-15 years straight, odds are that you will eventually get a real shot at the trophy. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, njbuff said: Yeah because the Bucs are such a football haven. Brady effect - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28925304/players-expressing-interest-joining-tom-brady-buccaneers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Don’t know the exact number but we know it will be towards the higher end for RB’s. The only way I see them doing it is if they don’t see Singletary as a #1. We can't say for sure the #. And to me Singletary is a high end backup and I've been preaching all offseason we draft a better RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think with the increased workload as the season went on, I think they feel he is. Could be but if the reports are true about Gordon or if we do something else significant at RB - we should know what they think soon. I personally think he's a good back. He gets tough yards, he's shifty and gets yards on good directional decisions. He lacks that burst though and for whatever reason didn't trust him in short yardage and they didn't throw to him (or any backs). I'll say they didn't use him near enough. I don't think we got a full look at his capabilities, so for now only they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...still pass......hardly excelled in a contract year or was that not his fault bud?...just askin'............ We are looking for a replacement for Gore, not singletary. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/19/report-melvin-gordon-has-no-offers-close-to-the-one-he-turned-down-in-2019/ Now he’s a free agent, and not only is he still not getting the offer he wants, but he’s not even getting an offer as good as what the Chargers offered last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, DJB said: We can't say for sure the #. And to me Singletary is a high end backup and I've been preaching all offseason we draft a better RB. Are you just still hung up on his 40 time, or do you have some sort of actual basis for this hot take? General consensus is he proved himself a capable starter being top 5 in multiple metrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Nihilarian said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/19/report-melvin-gordon-has-no-offers-close-to-the-one-he-turned-down-in-2019/ Now he’s a free agent, and not only is he still not getting the offer he wants, but he’s not even getting an offer as good as what the Chargers offered last year. Knew this was gonna happen. Has he fired his agent yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: We are looking for a replacement for Gore, not singletary. I think limiting Singletary to 21 touches is the move. Having a back that can handle the rest without a drop off is huge. The offense stalled when Gore was in the game. The offense was predictable. Edited March 19, 2020 by Mat68 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Nihilarian said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/19/report-melvin-gordon-has-no-offers-close-to-the-one-he-turned-down-in-2019/ Now he’s a free agent, and not only is he still not getting the offer he wants, but he’s not even getting an offer as good as what the Chargers offered last year. I think they offered him something crazy like $10 million per year last year, right? No way he gets anywhere near that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/3/19/21187185/report-mutual-interest-between-buffalo-bills-melvin-gordon-2020-nfl-free-agency-news-rumors This might be more credible. The Bills have spoken with Gordon’s agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Are you just still hung up on his 40 time, or do you have some sort of actual basis for this hot take? General consensus is he proved himself a capable starter being top 5 in multiple metrics. Has nothing to do with his numbers. He played really well for us. A few issues I have with him. - I think hes good but not great. - His pass protection and pass catching are average at best. - I dont think physically he can handle being a bell cow guy I see no reason why we cant upgrade him and by doing so upgrade our entire offence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Jared Goff is certainly part of the problem. But the team would still be in deep cap trouble, even if Goff was playing really well. And if it wasn't for that terrible no-call against the Saints, the Rams wouldn't have even gotten to the NFC Championship game. I always hated the Rams approach. Thanks to their cap situation and lack of draft capitol, it may be 2-3 more seasons before they are even back into playoff contention. Personally, I prefer the New England approach. It's not about amassing a group of superstars, and making one desperate shot at the trophy. It's about building a cohesive and consistent team that can compete every single year, regardless of injuries, free agency, etc. If you can constantly field a team that wins 70-75% of your games for 10-15 years straight, odds are that you will eventually get a real shot at the trophy. I recall a couple years ago when they signed everyone saying that Mcvay wouldn't be golden boy once cap hell hits. Let's see how he does this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, DJB said: Improving the run will open up the pass game. I'm not a huge M Gordon fan but I'm interested to see where this goes I concurr. Not a big fan of his either. I'd rather have Gurley if he's healthy. However, both would be a welcomed upgrade to our offense. It's just a matter of compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Edited March 19, 2020 by DJB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Confirmed Melvin to the Bills at 9:47pm EST tonight 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 ‘Tis the season! Wawrow is ultra plugged. When there’s this level of disinformation it’s usually agent-fueled (hard glances Mr Bilbo...). And JW is full of crap on just one thing... He’s on his Xbox and he KNOWS IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 It's 7 pm, is it time for some of Beane's #billsafterdark magic? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Who's more Bills connected? Parrino or Wawrow ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, DFT said: ‘Tis the season! Wawrow is ultra plugged. When there’s this level of disinformation it’s usually agent-fueled (hard glances Mr Bilbo...). And JW is full of crap on just one thing... He’s on his Xbox and he KNOWS IT! can you translate this to English? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: can you translate this to English? Wawrow is extremely plugged in with good contacts so if anyone knows truthfully, it’s typically him. He doesn’t guess and shoots from the hip. Melvin’s team is most likely spreading information to drum up interest in their client (like D Bilbo - his agent) did last year to no avail. JW was in reference to John’s initials. John May be on a Microsoft-driven piece of software that links to the internet, where murder, theft and rampage are not just legal, but universally celebrated. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 21 hours ago, Da webster guy said: I'm at the point where if McD wants someone, then I do too, but I'm a believer in drafting RB's not paying a lot for them. Singletary was under used last year, and now we have Diggs as well to demand another 70-100 targets. Gordon is a bell cow back, wherever he goes he's going to be the RB1. Dont see the fit for us, hope we draft a rookie and run with him for RB2. Also i like Senorise Perry he might surprise everyone in camp and win the 2 spot. They did so darned well drafting RB in Devin that i have to think they can evaluate them. And I agree on two points. Draft one . Find another gem that fits with Singletary and the Offense Daboll wants to play with. If we can find a Vet Rb ? I prefer short term contracts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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