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Consider this my priority list...as of this point super early in FA....and I know there are variables re depth still at each position.  But here is essentially how I rank the priority and how I'd draft

 

My top 3:

 

1. WR (need cheap option when Brown contract up)

2. CB (if we sign Harris I put OT here)

3. Center (can get great ones in the 50s)

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1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

DE

 

I don't think this team seems to put a premium on DEs.  Its scheme with that front 7 and rotation.  They trust the system and players they got.  I'd like to draft one still.  But they seem to value vets there.  

 

I'm trying to convince my Redskins fans taking Young is a big mistake.  You have an unknown at QB.  And a dreadful offense.  I think you take the QB or trade back and take Lamb.  QBs are more mobile today and elude pressure better than ever.  I'd rather have DTs that can blow up the middle and scheme edge pressure.  

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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I don't think this team seems to put a premium on DEs.  Its scheme with that front 7 and rotation.  They trust the system and players they got.  I'd like to draft one still.  But they seem to value vets there.


It’s pick 54 right? 
 

Is that a massive investment?

 

The Bills desperately need to get younger at the position...

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16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I don't think this team seems to put a premium on DEs.  Its scheme with that front 7 and rotation.  They trust the system and players they got.  I'd like to draft one still.  But they seem to value vets there.  

 

I'm trying to convince my Redskins fans taking Young is a big mistake.  You have an unknown at QB.  And a dreadful offense.  I think you take the QB or trade back and take Lamb.  QBs are more mobile today and elude pressure better than ever.  I'd rather have DTs that can blow up the middle and scheme edge pressure.  

Taking what could end up being a top 5 DE would be a mistake? And they just drafted Haskins. Unless they plan on pulling a Arizona, there is zero reason to draft QB.

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21 minutes ago, Gambit said:

Taking what could end up being a top 5 DE would be a mistake? And they just drafted Haskins. Unless they plan on pulling a Arizona, there is zero reason to draft QB.

 

You better be sold on Haskins.  New coach didn't draft him.  And if its the owners call.....well....we know how this ends.  

 

How many playoff wins for Bosa and Engram with the Chargers?  How about the Bears who will probably be trading Mack by the deadline.  

 

I'm not saying you don't draft him.  The Redskins have too many holes to fill and if Haskins is the man then sure...you take Young.  No doubt.  

 

If Arizona or Detroit has this pick it's a no brainer bc the O will be legit.  The Redskins have holes everywhere.  Most likely at QB.  Could get a huge return if they trade back and still get Lamb and really load up on a young O.  

 

If it was us and we had Haskins there'd be a serious debate between Young and Tua or trading back.  

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54 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Consider this my priority list...as of this point super early in FA....and I know there are variables re depth still at each position.  But here is essentially how I rank the priority and how I'd draft

 

My top 3:

 

1. WR (need cheap option when Brown contract up)

2. CB (if we sign Harris I put OT here)

3. Center (can get great ones in the 50s)

 

RB Clyde Edwards Helaire.

 

 

54 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

DE

 

DE James Lynch

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Consider this my priority list...as of this point super early in FA....and I know there are variables re depth still at each position.  But here is essentially how I rank the priority and how I'd draft

 

My top 3:

 

1. WR (need cheap option when Brown contract up)

2. CB (if we sign Harris I put OT here)

3. Center (can get great ones in the 50s)

 

WR Michael Pittman

CB Bryce Ball

C Tyler Biadasz

 

 

53 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I don't think this team seems to put a premium on DEs.  Its scheme with that front 7 and rotation.  They trust the system and players they got.  I'd like to draft one still.  But they seem to value vets there.  

 

I'm trying to convince my Redskins fans taking Young is a big mistake.  You have an unknown at QB.  And a dreadful offense.  I think you take the QB or trade back and take Lamb.  QBs are more mobile today and elude pressure better than ever.  I'd rather have DTs that can blow up the middle and scheme edge pressure.  

 

Id take Chase Young in a heartbeat although i might take DT Derrick Brown over him.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

You better be sold on Haskins.  New coach didn't draft him.  And if its the owners call.....well....we know how this ends.  

 

How many playoff wins for Bosa and Engram with the Chargers?  How about the Bears who will probably be trading Mack by the deadline.  

 

I'm not saying you don't draft him.  The Redskins have too many holes to fill and if Haskins is the man then sure...you take Young.  No doubt.  

 

If Arizona or Detroit has this pick it's a no brainer bc the O will be legit.  The Redskins have holes everywhere.  Most likely at QB.  Could get a huge return if they trade back and still get Lamb and really load up on a young O.  

 

If it was us and we had Haskins there'd be a serious debate between Young and Tua or trading back.  

 

Threw up a little there.

 

 

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The whole point of BPA is to not worry about position. You take the highest person on your board at that point. Could be a safety, could be a RB, could be anything. Just get the most talented player you can.

 

But I will say, we need more linebacker depth, better pass rush, more depth at RB, and potentially an upgrade to one of the oline positions. There's plenty to target in the draft.

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59 minutes ago, Gambit said:

Taking what could end up being a top 5 DE would be a mistake? And they just drafted Haskins. Unless they plan on pulling a Arizona, there is zero reason to draft QB.

 

Haskins played worse than Rosen ever has.... so there is that.... 

At #54 the Bills will be in position to grab one of the cluster of edge rushers. My guy Bradlee Anae out of Utah, @thebandit27's guy Jonathan Greenard out of Florida, Josh Uche out of Michigan.... all in play. 

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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I don't think this team seems to put a premium on DEs.  Its scheme with that front 7 and rotation.  They trust the system and players they got.  I'd like to draft one still.  But they seem to value vets there.  

 

I'm trying to convince my Redskins fans taking Young is a big mistake.  You have an unknown at QB.  And a dreadful offense.  I think you take the QB or trade back and take Lamb.  QBs are more mobile today and elude pressure better than ever.  I'd rather have DTs that can blow up the middle and scheme edge pressure.  

 

DE Jabari Zuniga has the traits of a top pass rusher, he may be a guy we go after in round 2

 

 

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We don't need to spend a 2nd round pick to get it, but I think a second quality RB is our biggest need right now. Singletary is awesome, but he's not a "do-it-all" feature back. Plus if he ever got hurt our rushing attack would be in big trouble.

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23 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

We don't need to spend a 2nd round pick to get it, but I think a second quality RB is our biggest need right now. Singletary is awesome, but he's not a "do-it-all" feature back. Plus if he ever got hurt our rushing attack would be in big trouble.

 

Clyde is the man here.

 

 

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Would love to see us get lucky with a couple of these options dropping for our 2nd????

 

-- Terrell Lewis, Edge

-- Kyle Duggar, S

-- Trevon Diggs, CB  (would we go for that now?)

-- Ezra Cleveland, OT

-- Best RB available / Akers, Edwards-Helaire, Swift?

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4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Consider this my priority list...as of this point super early in FA....and I know there are variables re depth still at each position.  But here is essentially how I rank the priority and how I'd draft

 

My top 3:

 

1. WR (need cheap option when Brown contract up)

2. CB (if we sign Harris I put OT here)

3. Center (can get great ones in the 50s)


 

The problem with this is that FA is not done and until we are up to the draft - it is hard to speculate on the BPA and need ratio.  Right now they need more RB, DE, and LB depth and could use a young WR.  All could be in play with the 2nd round pick.  
 

If they pick up Jordan Howard and/or another CB (Harris) or they grab another OT or LB as depth in the next few days - then the focus shifts to WR, DE, maybe a center.  Beane is once again filling holes in FA and that allows him to truly draft the BPA on the board - regardless of position.  
 

Then it will be who is falling and where to draft him.  Position is irrelevant- it will be the top tiered guy left and you can’t know that until the draft.

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At this point, I think that Buffalo has enough at each position where they should truly go BPA in each round.     Many of the positions with less depth are ones where mid to late round pick can land a good player.    Tackle, and running back depth, along with an upgrade in backup quarterback are what I would like to see addressed the most.

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I felt like at 22 Buffalo misses out on a blue chip prospect.  Trading it made sense.  Getting a wr to grow with Allen was a big need.  Diggs is that.  I still think the offense needs more weapons and day 2 has multiple.  Whether its Hamler, Claypool, Higgins or a top Rb those are all better picks at 54 not 22.  

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3 hours ago, MJS said:

The whole point of BPA is to not worry about position. You take the highest person on your board at that point. Could be a safety, could be a RB, could be anything. Just get the most talented player you can.

 

But I will say, we need more linebacker depth, better pass rush, more depth at RB, and potentially an upgrade to one of the oline positions. There's plenty to target in the draft.

 

Totally agree.  The Bills need to improve their over all depth, and so my only criteria for Day Two picks are prospects who are likely to develop into good starters, and possibly more.  Position is irrelevant.

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5 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I don't think this team seems to put a premium on DEs.  Its scheme with that front 7 and rotation.  They trust the system and players they got.  I'd like to draft one still.  But they seem to value vets there.  

 

I'm trying to convince my Redskins fans taking Young is a big mistake.  You have an unknown at QB.  And a dreadful offense.  I think you take the QB or trade back and take Lamb.  QBs are more mobile today and elude pressure better than ever.  I'd rather have DTs that can blow up the middle and scheme edge pressure.  

I could see taking the QB but Young is ELITE. He’s ahead of where the Bosa boys were coming out and they entered the league as instant stars. He will make a massive impact day 1.

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Free Agency isn't even 24 hours old yet, so things are bound to change.  At this point:

- The Quinton Spain extension means starting O-Line is pretty much set.  

- The Stefon Diggs trade knocks WR from top of the need list, down to the bottom.

 

In my opinion, the biggest need on the team is now Edge Rusher.  We have basically swapped Shaq Lawson for Mario Addison in the DE rotation.  But with Jerry Hughes aging and Trent Murphy always hurt, I would really like to see another good player in the mix.

 

Josh Norman was a nice depth addition, but we still need one more CB.

Depending on what happens with Jordan Phillips, we may need another DT for the interior rotation.

We need another RB to pair with Devon Singletary.  And I wouldn't mind another TE to pair with Dawson Knox.

 

And that folks, is pretty much it.  If Beane can make 4-5 more moves this week, we could walk into the draft without a single glaring need on the roster.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Gambit said:

Taking what could end up being a top 5 DE would be a mistake? And they just drafted Haskins. Unless they plan on pulling a Arizona, there is zero reason to draft QB.

That's just it - what "could end up" being a top 5 DE. 

 

There's a new staff. If they don't love the QB, why is it a stretch?

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8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Consider this my priority list...as of this point super early in FA....and I know there are variables re depth still at each position.  But here is essentially how I rank the priority and how I'd draft

 

My top 3:

 

1. WR (need cheap option when Brown contract up)

2. CB (if we sign Harris I put OT here)

3. Center (can get great ones in the 50s)

 

 DE because now the pass rush rotation is OLD.

 

 Your list is a bit strange to me.

 

 WR- would be #4 and rarely get on the field.

 

 CB-ok makes sense and I would love to reunite the Diggs brothers or take a fast CB like AJ Terrell.

 

 C- I don't get this either. Morse has two years on his contract and Bills currently have both Long and Feliciano who can cover there. You want your pick to redshirt his first two years?

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5 hours ago, cage said:

Would love to see us get lucky with a couple of these options dropping for our 2nd????

 

-- Terrell Lewis, Edge

-- Kyle Duggar, S

-- Trevon Diggs, CB  (would we go for that now?)

-- Ezra Cleveland, OT

-- Best RB available / Akers, Edwards-Helaire, Swift?

 

That has become really interesting  now

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8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Consider this my priority list...as of this point super early in FA....and I know there are variables re depth still at each position.  But here is essentially how I rank the priority and how I'd draft

 

My top 3:

 

1. WR (need cheap option when Brown contract up)

2. CB (if we sign Harris I put OT here)

3. Center (can get great ones in the 50s)

I can see wanting that, but we have three guys who can play center signed at present, if your talking, a bench sitter to groom, that’s a possibility. OT I think might be a higher priority, lots to choose from, a RB might be in there as well. 

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2 hours ago, CLTbills said:

That's just it - what "could end up" being a top 5 DE. 

 

There's a new staff. If they don't love the QB, why is it a stretch?

And what guarantees the QB would be anything great? There's a higher chance Chase ends up being great. If the Skins had a shot at Burrows I'd understand them going QB. Not so much for Tua tho.

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9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Haskins played worse than Rosen ever has.... so there is that.... 

At #54 the Bills will be in position to grab one of the cluster of edge rushers. My guy Bradlee Anae out of Utah, @thebandit27's guy Jonathan Greenard out of Florida, Josh Uche out of Michigan.... all in play. 

The thing about an edge rusher that really worries me... they either figure out how to get to quarterback in the NFL right away... or they're basically going to be a bust.  The undersized guys that get it done with pure speed (and bend) around the edge in college... well, it's a whole different thing when a quality NFL tackle gets his hands into you.

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11 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Consider this my priority list...as of this point super early in FA....and I know there are variables re depth still at each position.  But here is essentially how I rank the priority and how I'd draft

 

My top 3:

 

1. WR (need cheap option when Brown contract up)

2. CB (if we sign Harris I put OT here)

3. Center (can get great ones in the 50s)

 

This is a weird priority list IMO.  

 

I mean...DE, OT, and RB are all pretty widely seen as the higher priorities now, maybe a WR to groom can squeak its way in for the 2nd round consideration too.  

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BPA is always a nice place to be so lets see what else Free Agency brings. 

 

Right now I think we still have a need to get younger and better at DE/Edge rush and at RB.   If not further addressed in free agency I would look at those positions in rounds 2 and 3. 

 

I think OT, CB, S, are all possibilities too if the right player is there. 

 

On draft day it will be hard to miss out on that pick at 22 but Diggs will plug in immediately as a proven #1 and at a great contract. 

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We are going RB or WR with our first pick.  I am almost certain 

DE

RB

OT

WR

backup QB

secondary

 

thats my priority list.  Bpa always.  I stated RB and WR because both will be ridiculous value with our second pick 

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