Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 44 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Gun laws need to be normalized across the country but still stupid for him to do this. Not sure if there are mandatory penalties in NYS. In NJ, there are no options from the mandatory jail time. I was always afraid I would forget and take my legal gun from NY into NJ (driving) and it would be found. Unfortunate for him but I do not feel bad for the impact on the Jets. It's one of the issues that the Fed has pushed on states, so the enforcement and laws are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Young money? So I guess Lil' Wayne is the boss of his agent huh lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: I did 23 years in law enforcement. I would not be surprised if he literally forgot he had the gun in the luggage. I know it sounds whacked but a fair number of people store their gun in their luggage at their home. They pack for a trip and forget the damn gun is in there. It would not be the first time I heard this. My wife works for TSA and the amount of times she reads about someone accidentally bringing a loaded gun to the airport is alarming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisele Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Hate it for anyone that gets caught up in these weird NY gun laws. I'm a cop in another state and I don't know if I am legally allowed to carry in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, fansince88 said: This explains it all: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150101/guide-to-the-interstate-transportation That said, I m a NYS CC Permit holder. It is my duty to know the laws of each state. You cannot legally posses in NYC without written consent by NYPD. I have family on Long Island. I could carry to LI from my county with my weapon stored the way it is explained in the first two paragraphs of the article without consent but can be arrested for it. If I dont get consent first I do not carry "through" NYC. That said, I also have a Utah permit that gives me lefal right to carry 42 states the time. That has changed in the last 9 years since I got it. For instance Pennsylvania no longer accepts the Utah Permit. But I can in Delaware. So, I can travel under US law through Pennsylvania without overniting to go to Delaware with the proper transportation requirements in the first two paragraphs. NYS does not recognise any other states carry permits so the Alabama permit does not hold give him permission in NYS and if he did not get permission in NYC he is screwed. there was a receiver (Pittsburg guy I recall) that spent the last couple of years of his career in a prison in NY for carrying in NYC without a liscense.. who remembers the name? Oh yeah, he is shot himself in the leg in a bar....I recall. 1 hour ago, Just Joshin' said: Gun laws need to be normalized across the country but still stupid for him to do this. Not sure if there are mandatory penalties in NYS. In NJ, there are no options from the mandatory jail time. I was always afraid I would forget and take my legal gun from NY into NJ (driving) and it would be found. Unfortunate for him but I do not feel bad for the impact on the Jets. NY won't agree. And, other states are somewhat vindictive toward NYers because of that. I got a permit in Fl after having a NY CCP for a dozen years.....I had to do the whole thing over for Fl. Good news was the Fl permit is good in 39 states (I think) NY has no reciprocity arrangement, contending other standards are to weak. I will admit, though, that my NY state NRA safety course did have cred in Fl. Edited March 6, 2020 by bigK14094 spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Someone please just pass me the smelling salts! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Bama guy that was a high draft pick on the D-line who is getting in trouble for stupid behavior? You must be talking about Marcel Darius, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, Gisele said: Hate it for anyone that gets caught up in these weird NY gun laws. I'm a cop in another state and I don't know if I am legally allowed to carry in NY. If you actually need the info feel free to PM me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 All I’ve taken from this thread is that it was a started by a dude whose username is Bruce Vilanch. I think we’ve reached peak humanity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Someone please just pass me the smelling salts! ...just in Gase this story takes a turn for the worse! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 he always reminded me of Keenan from Keenan and Kel. Say it ain’t so, Keenan!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essential Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Forgive my ignorance on the topic, but I thought it was illegal to bring a firearm on a plane (unless you're an air marshall) everywhere in the US. So if you have a legal permit to carry, and you're flying to a place where the laws are the same, you can bring it on the flight? That seems crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, essential said: Forgive my ignorance on the topic, but I thought it was illegal to bring a firearm on a plane (unless you're an air marshall) everywhere in the US. So if you have a legal permit to carry, and you're flying to a place where the laws are the same, you can bring it on the flight? That seems crazy. You can check your firearm per TSA regulations. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I have a CC in FL. When I drove to Buffalo last summer, nearly every state on the way I have reciprocity. When I got to NY, I wasn't allowed to stop in the state, even if my handgun was unloaded and locked in a case, which it was. That's totally crazy imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: I don't feel sorry for him one bit I don't get the whole gun thing why does somebody need to be carrying a weapon? If you don't know, you will not understand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: I did 23 years in law enforcement. I would not be surprised if he literally forgot he had the gun in the luggage. I know it sounds whacked but a fair number of people store their gun in their luggage at their home. They pack for a trip and forget the damn gun is in there. It would not be the first time I heard this. This guy is not in law enforcement though... what kind of person who isn't packs a gun in their luggage? Sounds utterly stupid to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 hours ago, MJS said: New York has some of the most strict gun laws in the nation. Anyone who owns a gun should be aware of that, especially if you live there! Could have easily gotten there by car or bus. He took a Greyhound to training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Suck it, Jets! Friggin' turds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, essential said: Forgive my ignorance on the topic, but I thought it was illegal to bring a firearm on a plane (unless you're an air marshall) everywhere in the US. So if you have a legal permit to carry, and you're flying to a place where the laws are the same, you can bring it on the flight? That seems crazy. In checked baggage locked in a case..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Someone should sit him down and explain to him that when you do stupid things as a player in the NFL expected to do great things, you can lose it all. Unfortunately, some people are what I call "stubborn stupid." If someone is stubborn stupid, they will continue to do stupid stuff even after they have paid a price for it multiple times. Whether Williams fits that mold or not remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Who the funk needs a handgun anyway? This isn't Dodge City in 1875. For that matter, you had to surrender your guns to enter 1875 Dodge City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 You hate to see it. Does he still have his braces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: This guy is not in law enforcement though... what kind of person who isn't packs a gun in their luggage? Sounds utterly stupid to me. Call it what you want, Williams is not alone if he forgot the gun was in his luggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: Call it what you want, Williams is not alone if he forgot the gun was in his luggage. so it's commonplace for people to store their guns at home...in their luggage, and then take the gun out of the luggage before they travel--so this doesn't happen to them? Why the luggage? Why not a gun safe or lock box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, whatdrought said: I have several thoughts about this... 1- I feel bad for whatever stupid lapse of judgment and lack of wise council caused this kid (22yr old) to not realize how much of an idiot he was being here. This will cause him issues- hopefully nothing too serious. 2- We got the better DT in the draft. That was clear in play, but this drives that home some. 3- Anything that makes the Jets look like more of a pile of ***** is good for me! Damn I couldn’t agree more on all 3 !!! GO Bills Edited March 6, 2020 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Just Joshin' said: Gun laws need to be normalized across the country but still stupid for him to do this. Gun laws were normalized in 1789, however jurisdictions have continually encroached upon an inherent human right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: so it's commonplace for people to store their guns at home...in their luggage, and then take the gun out of the luggage before they travel--so this doesn't happen to them? Why the luggage? Why not a gun safe or lock box? Good question about the luggage. I don't know the answer. People, for whatever reason, get the gun but not necessarily a safe or lockbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, yungmack said: Who the funk needs a handgun anyway? This isn't Dodge City in 1875. For that matter, you had to surrender your guns to enter 1875 Dodge City. He grew up in Birmingham, Alabama. It's one of the most dangerous/murderous cities in our country. Edited March 6, 2020 by soflabillsfan1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, essential said: Forgive my ignorance on the topic, but I thought it was illegal to bring a firearm on a plane (unless you're an air marshall) everywhere in the US. So if you have a legal permit to carry, and you're flying to a place where the laws are the same, you can bring it on the flight? That seems crazy. Federal law enforcement are allowed to carry onto a plane. You declare at security, show your ID, fill out a form, and bypass the usual routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 FWIW (I'm assuming my friend is misinformed), a friend of mine works at the airport and was there when this all went down. He says Quinnen had the gun in his checked baggage and one of the workers at the airport saw it was an athlete and illegally went through his bag and found the gun and then it turned into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 13 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I own guns and I have a CC, but I certainly don't travel from Oregon to CA thinking gun laws are the same, I believe NY is just as strict with their gun laws as California is. Isn't the issue here bringing a gun in a carry on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeviF Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, DCOrange said: FWIW (I'm assuming my friend is misinformed), a friend of mine works at the airport and was there when this all went down. He says Quinnen had the gun in his checked baggage and one of the workers at the airport saw it was an athlete and illegally went through his bag and found the gun and then it turned into this. Define "illegally." TSA gets pretty wide latitude when it comes to baggage screening. Story sounds like bunk, which I can see you're already assuming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, essential said: Forgive my ignorance on the topic, but I thought it was illegal to bring a firearm on a plane (unless you're an air marshall) everywhere in the US. So if you have a legal permit to carry, and you're flying to a place where the laws are the same, you can bring it on the flight? That seems crazy. Except if you are connecting through a NYC area airport. My brother is the ops manager for AA @ LaGuardia, he said this happens on a WEEKLY basis there. People travelling from southern states, or from the mid west on business, and their flights get diverted into the NYC area (weather, aircraft malfunction, etc). Once the plane lands, NYPD is there at the gate to arrest you (your weapons are declared to TSA, so they see the gun on the paperwork when it lands and docks at the gate). The Queens county DA hits you with felony weapons charges which carry 2 yrs in prison, and a $10,000 fine. At a minimum you will have to pay the fine (not to mention exorbitant legal bills), avoiding jail time only if you have no priors. The messed up thing is most of these people intentionally tried to avoid connecting in NYC, and circumstances beyond their control forced them to be there against their will. Edited March 6, 2020 by MILFHUNTER#518 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: I don't feel sorry for him one bit I don't get the whole gun thing why does somebody need to be carrying a weapon? you can shoot people with it when they try to rob you because you are a rich athlete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Define "illegally." TSA gets pretty wide latitude when it comes to baggage screening. Story sounds like bunk, which I can see you're already assuming. Yeah, that's all the detail he gave us. Feel like if there was an illegal search, Q's lawyer would have led off with that instead of saying something along the lines of it being a harmless mistake and that it'll be sorted out soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Except if you are connecting through a NYC area airport. My brother is the ops manager for AA @ LaGuardia, he said this happens on a WEEKLY basis there. People travelling from southern states, or from the mid west on business, and their flights get diverted into the NYC area (weather, aircraft malfunction, etc). Once the plane lands, NYPD is there at the gate to arrest you (your weapons are declared to TSA, so they see the gun on the paperwork when it lands and docks at the gate). The Queens county DA hits you with felony weapons charges which carry 2 yrs in prison, and a $10,000 fine. At a minimum you will have to pay the fine (not to mention exorbitant legal bills), avoiding jail time only if you have no priors. The messed up thing is most of these people intentionally tried to avoid connecting in NYC, and circumstances beyond their control forced them to be there against their will. If that is true, that is absolutely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: If that is true, that is absolutely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Yeah, that's all the detail he gave us. Feel like if there was an illegal search, Q's lawyer would have led off with that instead of saying something along the lines of it being a harmless mistake and that it'll be sorted out soon. Q's lawyer sucks. "Technical error regarding storage." BS, everyone knows you can't just toss a gun, unloaded or not, into your luggage without any sort of paperwork. I hope the ADA is a Pats*** fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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