MJS Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: No thanks. He doesn't want to be here anyway. Neither did Kim Kelly. Because they don't know until they get to Buffalo what kind of place it is. Can't fault the players for ignorance. He might come and then love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Locomark said: First and second pick for Ruggs is $15 million less and would still yield regular 1400-1600 yard seasons..... screw the extra pick, go big or go home Why not do both? Who is that $$ going to stop us from signing in the next 2-3years. We got the room 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, MJS said: Neither did Kim Kelly. Because they don't know until they get to Buffalo what kind of place it is. Can't fault the players for ignorance. He might come and then love it. Nah, hard pass. If he was a better player, maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Hell to the no on Amari Cooper for a number of reasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Oh hell naw come on Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 say no to warm weather wusses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: The Bills have everything, but I want to see them get a superstar." @KyleBrandt | @GMFB Comments ..... That’s real nice....but it will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Cooper isn’t process material. plus Gilmore owned his ass when he played in the land of cheats. I give it less than a .000001% chance he signs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nato7412 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 6 hours ago, ScottLaw said: I'd take the already established superstar over the potential superstar any day. I don't think the Bills can afford a rookie WR growing pains this year. I agree that we'd prefer the established player, but at 20 million a year I dont thinks Cooper's (or any receiver for that much other than Thomas, Hopkins or Jones) worth it, I'd rather taker the gamble in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Except Cooper thinks playing in Buffalo and it’s late-season frigid temperatures isn’t for him. “I don’t think it’s all about money,” Cooper told The Athletic’s Tim Graham last month from the Pro Bowl. “Most players in the NFL, and if you’re a highly touted free agent, you’re going to get paid a lot of money no matter where you go. So is it worth it to go somewhere you don’t want to go?” https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2020/02/can-buffalo-bills-recruit-free-agent-receiver-amari-cooper.html I would pass on him too soft for here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 14 hours ago, H2o said: He's a good WR and he's had some good years in this league already, but there are games where he just doesn't seem to show up. One week he gets 180-200yds and 2 scores, then the next week he has one or two catches for 30 yards. I'm not sure if it's the offense he was in, Dak, or him. I wouldn't be mad if we brought him in though. May be the guy gets all the attention from the best CB of the opposing team that leads to 1-2 catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, nucci said: technically 4 but you're right I actually read a number of opinions on this, all from reputable sources. Some maintain 3 words, some 4. May I suggest that if whoever you’re correcting is just one of us, throw the flag. If it’s someone associated with the New England Patriots, pick up the flag, overrule the call, and award a compensatory draft pick to the Patsies. ? Edited March 4, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 11 hours ago, auburnbillsbacker said: Be prepared to end up with the next Zay Jones. WR is a position that teams miss on all of the time. Be prepared for the next Marques Colston. This draft is so deep at WR, that in addition to drafting one up high, there will be VERY talented WR prospects late as well. Double dip late and increase the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ganesh said: May be the guy gets all the attention from the best CB of the opposing team that leads to 1-2 catches. Gilmore completely shut him down. He had 0 catches that day. He had 1 rec for 3 yds against the Jets, 3 rec for 38yds vs Detroit, 1 rec for 19 yds against the Rams, and 4 rec for 24 yds against the Eagles. It's hard to say really. He had 22 of his receptions and almost 400 yds of his receiving total come in 2 games this past season. Take out those two big games and his averages the rest of the way were 4 catches for 58 yds per contest. I wouldn't mind him here and I think he would help the offense, but I don't know if he is worth the elite $$$ he is likely seeking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 It’s already reported yesterday sources from ESPN stated Dallas is getting ready to extend or tag him. Makes sense as the impact he had the moment he put on the Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 It does make sense with this team leading the league in drops why not add the receiver that lead the league individually in drops? Its obvious he could bring a lot to the film room by teaching the Bills WR's the proper technique so they can all challenge for the individual league lead 4 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: It’s already reported yesterday sources from ESPN stated Dallas is getting ready to extend or tag him. Makes sense as the impact he had the moment he put on the Star. Thank God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Billl said: <<Furiously scribbling notes>> A 25 year old with 4 trips to the pro bowl, 33 TDs, and over 5,000 yards receiving is a bust. Yes. And 1) How has the teams done with him? and 2) Why isn't he still with them? As an aside, Dallas was desperate and paid with a 1st rounder. Keep taking notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I want a Pony. And an airplane ticket to Belize. I mean, sure! I'd like Amari Cooper in B'lo, but he pretty much flat out said he's got a list of teams he'll consider and they're all in the South, and that he wouldn't go somewhere like Buffalo just for a "couple of extra million". I don't think we should be piling up extra-tall stacks of dollars for guys who don't want to be here. Please stop with this. He had a drop rate of 3.9% in Dallas in 2018 and 4.2% last year. That's slightly below league average. He has a high number of drops because he has a high number of targets. He still drops balls. No need to stop with the truth, maybe stop with the Cooper threads every week and people won't have to repeat this every time. Edited March 4, 2020 by Hardhatharry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: It’s already reported yesterday sources from ESPN stated Dallas is getting ready to extend or tag him. Makes sense as the impact he had the moment he put on the Star. Pretty sure they are gonna use the tag on Dak is what I heard, unless there has been some progress made on that front I am unaware of at the moment (completely possible). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said: He still drops balls. No need to stop with the truth, maybe stop with the Cooper threads every week and people won't have to repeat this every time. Every wide receiver drops balls sometimes. "Truth" comes with context, and removing the context removes the meaning. Julian Edelman had more drops than Dawson Knox last year, 13 vs 10. OMG horrid! He led the league in drops! Well wait - Edelman also got 3x as many targets, 150 vs 50. But in fact, Cooper is way down the list for absolute number of drops, 39th, and even lower in drop %, 83rd. Repeating something that's meaningless absent context, and refusing to acknowledge the context or the facts presented, Not a good look here. 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Pretty sure they are gonna use the tag on Dak is what I heard, unless there has been some progress made on that front I am unaware of at the moment (completely possible). Can't they use both franchise and transition tag? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 No one cares he isn't coming to Buffalo. Like was said in every Cooper thread that gets started, get over it and move on to another player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 ill take him with a quickness, but chances are dallas isn't letting him go. i want an FA pass rusher, Passing weapon, and maybe maybe RT. the rest is just for fodder/rotation guys and then we get all else in the draft. our passing offense stinks (except on 3rd and long where it's strangely good) and we aren't going to get a new starting QB, looks like we aren't getting a new OC, and we might add a lineman or two, but not a huge change there. what we lack and what will make the biggest impact is weapons, and if we overpay for cooper that's fine because we have room. rams overpaid for watkins, and so did KC. both of them went to a superbowl while those contracts were an impact. it's not the end of the world if he's not quite up to billing, but even if he isn't it will super charge our O 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Cooper has voiced that he doesn't like the cold as Alf said and has also shown that he doesn't play well in it, if I recall correctly. So its off the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Be prepared for the next Marques Colston. This draft is so deep at WR, that in addition to drafting one up high, there will be VERY talented WR prospects late as well. Double dip late and increase the odds. Yep there will be good ones drafted late. Most teams will end up with a dud however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I watched this & i love Kyles enthusiasm as a newly formed Bills fan but i don't see that happening because in so many words he said he wouldn't or didn't want to play for a cold weather team if memory serves me correct . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, auburnbillsbacker said: Yep there will be good ones drafted late. Most teams will end up with a dud however. Guess we should scrap the whole drafting thing then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Amari Cooper is one of the most mentally soft players in the entire league. The Bills would be fools for wasting the free "air minutes" in making the phone call to the agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: Guess we should scrap the whole drafting thing then. My original point is that they shouldn't be opposed to signing a stud free agent or trading up for a guy they believe in. I want a true #1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Guy is a good not elite player and I wouldn't want to pay him whatever ridiculous contract someone is going to hand him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 He disappears way too much for a guy who is going to get paid what he is going to get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Ya, hard no on Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Much much more importantly, What does Kay want KYLE? ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Cooper doesn’t have the balls of steel required to play in Buffalo.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He disappears way too much for a guy who is going to get paid what he is going to get paid. He’s literally one of the most consistent WRs in the game and has been since he entered the league. You can pencil him in for 75 catches, 1,100 yards, and 7 TDs every year. The guy is easily better than any WR the Bills have had since Andre Reid. Nobody here seems to be willing to trade up into the top 10 for Lamb or Jeudy. Nobody seems to be willing to pay for a top 10-15 WR in free agency. The window is here for the Bills. It’s time to stop shopping at thrift stores hoping to get lucky. McBeane needs to decide what a championship caliber roster looks like and use every available resource to fashion a team in that image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 Is he a head case like AB? I don’t wanna play in B-lo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Billl said: He’s literally one of the most consistent WRs in the game and has been since he entered the league. You can pencil him in for 75 catches, 1,100 yards, and 7 TDs every year. The guy is easily better than any WR the Bills have had since Andre Reid. Nobody here seems to be willing to trade up into the top 10 for Lamb or Jeudy. Nobody seems to be willing to pay for a top 10-15 WR in free agency. The window is here for the Bills. It’s time to stop shopping at thrift stores hoping to get lucky. McBeane needs to decide what a championship caliber roster looks like and use every available resource to fashion a team in that image. You have to look way deeper than just his final numbers. The key to greatness is being consistent. He had 3 100 games, including a 200 plus one. He also had games of 0!, 3!, 19, & 24. He’s been like that his whole career. Dude is wack a mole and he’s going to get insane money for very inconsistent production. I don’t think it’s going to matter because plastic face Jones will re-sign him. But while he’s super talented, I’ve never been a fan of such inconsistent players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 44 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: You have to look way deeper than just his final numbers. The key to greatness is being consistent. He had 3 100 games, including a 200 plus one. He also had games of 0!, 3!, 19, & 24. He’s been like that his whole career. Dude is wack a mole and he’s going to get insane money for very inconsistent production. I don’t think it’s going to matter because plastic face Jones will re-sign him. But while he’s super talented, I’ve never been a fan of such inconsistent players. Mike Evans had very similar stats. He also had 3 100 yard games and a 0 yard game. Cooper Krupp had similar numbers including 0, 17, 31, and 35 yard games. There are maybe 6-8 truly elite WRs in the league. Amari is in the next group that aren’t quite at the level of DeAndre, Tyreek, Michael Thomas, etc. but are undeniably number 1 WRs. He only costs money, and the time to spend it on a guy who would immediately be the best offensive player on the team is now before a decision has to be made as to whether or not Josh gets a franchise level contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 49 minutes ago, Billl said: Mike Evans had very similar stats. He also had 3 100 yard games and a 0 yard game. Cooper Krupp had similar numbers including 0, 17, 31, and 35 yard games. There are maybe 6-8 truly elite WRs in the league. Amari is in the next group that aren’t quite at the level of DeAndre, Tyreek, Michael Thomas, etc. but are undeniably number 1 WRs. He only costs money, and the time to spend it on a guy who would immediately be the best offensive player on the team is now before a decision has to be made as to whether or not Josh gets a franchise level contract. Well, Kupp isn’t a number 1 receiver and won’t get paid like one. And it’s insane to even compare Evans to Cooper. He hasn’t had one 1,200 yard season or double digit td season while Evans has had 3 and 2 double digit td seasons. Evans also helped the other TB receivers blow up. if Evans was on the market, I’d pay him in a second. But I don’t see Cooper as that type of play. Plenty of talent but he just disappears. Cooper is close to Lee Evans at this point than Mike Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 8:57 AM, H2o said: Pretty sure they are gonna use the tag on Dak is what I heard, unless there has been some progress made on that front I am unaware of at the moment (completely possible). Yep, H2O. I heard the same on Dak, and the word is Cooper and the Jones’s are close to a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I was so high on him coming out of Alabama. He broke of such crisp routes and caught the ball effortlessly. I don’t want him near this team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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