blacklabel Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: McDermott loves him his DL rotations I think it's a good practice to do because it keeps players fresh. But, sometimes I wish he'd go by the situation rather than, "this is how the rotation goes." Because there's been more than a few times where you definitely want your first string guys out there, especially when a trailing opponent is trying to rally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Matt Parrino interview with Harrison Phillips discussing his charity, rehab, his feelings about the city of Buffalo, Shaq, Jordan, and Ed Oliver. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said: Matt Parrino interview with Harrison Phillips discussing his charity, rehab, his feelings about the city of Buffalo, Shaq, Jordan, and Ed Oliver. Horrible Harry is an amazing young man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 12:44 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: The average US job doesn't involve having multiple refrigerator-size guys slam into you or pound you into the concrete 64 times per game, every Sunday. And the average duration of a normal career is longer than 3-4 years. Yes, NFL players get very well paid for what they do, but let's not pretend there isn't significant down-side to compensate for a few months/yr of rising at 9 am. It's hard to feel sorry for them because a) it's voluntary, b) they make more money in their 3-4 year career than most people make in their lives, c) when their football career is over the can retire early or start a second career if they like, and d) there are a ton of fringe benefits. Despite the physical toll, I suspect the vast majority of American men would sign up for an NFL career in a heartbeat if they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On February 26, 2020 at 9:50 AM, Mr. WEO said: Who wouldn't want that life! Tons of money, play a game a week. Half the year off. First class travel, training facilities. Retire young. Start second career with money in the bank. Agreed. Some guys even start their 2nd career while they're still playing. Your guy Patrick Chung is an example. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 12:58 AM, NC Book said: Run D was pretty stout when he was healthy iirc. Didn't he lead Stanford on tackles his last year? That's insane for a I too want to believe Phillips' return helps the run D. Maybe it falls more on Edmunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 9:37 AM, machine gun kelly said: Makes JP even more of a challenge to keep. I say let him test the market and if he comes back as Spotrac states at $6.25 mil. Then would be even better on the inside. I still want Ngokue, and Hooper. Draft two WR’s and an edge rusher and we are set, after we get late Dillon. It would be great in a mid round to get a RT to share time with Nsekhe, and move Ford to LG. Let Spain walk unless we keep Ford at RT, and make an offer for Spain. My perfect off season along with extending ones we want. Phillips will get paid nicely, it won't be by the Bills though. At DT we already have Star (took a paycut), Last years 1st round draft pick #9, Ed Oliver and Horrible Harry. As a 1st round pick, they want Oliver to become a star. Bringing back Corey Liuget could be a solid signing. DT position set 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Cant wait for Kyle Jr. To return!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Never impressed me. When healthy. Needed work in the weight room. Hope he healed though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffaloed in Pa said: Never impressed me. When healthy. Needed work in the weight room. Hope he healed though Needed work in the weight room? He was the strongest DT in the 2018 class 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Buffaloed in Pa said: Never impressed me. When healthy. Needed work in the weight room. Hope he healed though Turn in your credentials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffaloed in Pa said: Never impressed me. When healthy. Needed work in the weight room. Hope he healed though 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Only genetic freaks with shredded muscles are any good at football- signed Vernon Gholston, David Boston, Tim Tebow, Brady Quinn, and Everette Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 4 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Needed work in the weight room? He was the strongest DT in the 2018 class Not on the field. Got pushed around. Noo pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffaloed in Pa said: Not on the field. Got pushed around. Noo pressure That’s just not at all what anyone had to say about him pre draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffaloed in Pa said: Not on the field. Got pushed around. Noo pressure Links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buffaloed in Pa said: Not on the field. Got pushed around. Noo pressure Really? Because it sure seemed like our run defense took a nosedive after he tore his ACL. Also, he was mainly in a rotation with Star @ 1-Tech. You see more interior double teams and are basically a space eater. Jordan Phillips and Ed Oliver were manning the 3-Tech. That is the place where you get most of your disruption from. This is what Harrison Phillips did in college as a penetrating DT. Pretty sure 17.0 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks require pressure to stop people behind the LOS. I also believe it's part of the reason we are interested in Reader and will wind up letting JP walk. Harry is gonna be kicked over to the 3-Tech along with Oliver. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheBeaneBandit Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 1:14 PM, H2o said: Really? Because it sure seemed like our run defense took a nosedive after he tore his ACL. Also, he was mainly in a rotation with Star @ 1-Tech. You see more interior double teams and are basically a space eater. Jordan Phillips and Ed Oliver were manning the 3-Tech. That is the place where you get most of your disruption from. This is what Harrison Phillips did in college as a penetrating DT. Pretty sure 17.0 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks require pressure to stop people behind the LOS. I also believe it's part of the reason we are interested in Reader and will wind up letting JP walk. Harry is gonna be kicked over to the 3-Tech along with Oliver. Man I hope it goes like that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Man I hope it goes like that??? As do I. Harrison was playing very good rotating with Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I think some ppl dont understand what the job of a one tech are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think some ppl dont understand what the job of a one tech are I think most understand the role pretty well. I also think it's reasonable to expect a 1-T to make some plays along the way. My hunch is that Harrison would rack up some tackles, TFL's, and even sacks over the course of a season, even at 1-T; something our current 1-T fails to do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: I think most understand the role pretty well. I also think it's reasonable to expect a 1-T to make some plays along the way. My hunch is that Harrison would rack up some tackles, TFL's, and even sacks over the course of a season, even at 1-T; something our current 1-T fails to do. I am not exactly a star fan....I think he does his job and not above that and I would like better (that is why I would like to make the play for DJ Reader) and of course rooting for Horrible Harry.....but he is coming off a major injury 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I think this is another testament to how much the Pegulas have put into advancing the sports medicine element of things. To me that is going to be a staple in not just attracting players, but also with retaining players. These guys understand that durability/availability is the key to them getting paid. Well, by all accounts Buffalo is one of the foremost teams in regards to facilities now, and their investment in overall sports medicine. Glad to see Harry on the right track to get back and get healthy. That being said, if we can still land a guy like Reader, I do it all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 1:14 PM, H2o said: Really? Because it sure seemed like our run defense took a nosedive after he tore his ACL. Also, he was mainly in a rotation with Star @ 1-Tech. You see more interior double teams and are basically a space eater. Jordan Phillips and Ed Oliver were manning the 3-Tech. That is the place where you get most of your disruption from. This is what Harrison Phillips did in college as a penetrating DT. Pretty sure 17.0 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks require pressure to stop people behind the LOS. I also believe it's part of the reason we are interested in Reader and will wind up letting JP walk. Harry is gonna be kicked over to the 3-Tech along with Oliver. To be fair, numbers are contextual. The same way, we can point out JP sack numbers, when in reality, JP was more of a right place at the right time, oppose to generating pressures him self. Moreover, some of the scouting reports on HP coming out where that he lacked the juice (so-to-speak) to be a true 3 tech. It's entirely possible. If we sign someone, they will slide Harry over, but I would think they would maybe use him across a couple different fronts depending on situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: I think this is another testament to how much the Pegulas have put into advancing the sports medicine element of things. To me that is going to be a staple in not just attracting players, but also with retaining players. These guys understand that durability/availability is the key to them getting paid. Well, by all accounts Buffalo is one of the foremost teams in regards to facilities now, and their investment in overall sports medicine. Glad to see Harry on the right track to get back and get healthy. That being said, if we can still land a guy like Reader, I do it all day. I wonder how poor field and good facilities affect opinion of players especially those who may have had lower leg issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pirate Angel Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 9:44 PM, John from Riverside said: I think it is impossible to say....I will say that it looked like HH was outplaying Star before he got hurt (at least to my eyes) I think the plan was to have Harry rotate and compete with star last year than have him take over this year if he showed he was capable. The injury postponed this if he has a solid offseason it wouldn't surprise me to see them move Star around pre season, especially with the free agent signings of D lineman. Im going to go ahead and say Beane will grab another 5-6 round pick before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Pirate Angel said: I think the plan was to have Harry rotate and compete with star last year than have him take over this year if he showed he was capable. The injury postponed this if he has a solid offseason it wouldn't surprise me to see them move Star around pre season, especially with the free agent signings of D lineman. Im going to go ahead and say Beane will grab another 5-6 round pick before the season starts. It will be interesting to see what the aquisition of Vernon Butler does to the rotation..... Large man at 330 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Love this young man........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 2:32 PM, John from Riverside said: It will be interesting to see what the aquisition of Vernon Butler does to the rotation..... Large man at 330 pounds For me, Butler to Buffalo was the most interesting free agent addition in the NFL. He's built like a prototypical run-stuffing nose tackle, has the pass-rush potential for annual sacks in the high single digits, and could elevate a top-5 defense to historical dominance. Is he a late bloomer or just a one-year wonder? Was his one-year wonder situation because he played as a 3-4 NT? Will he struggle again in a 4-3? Will the Bills be using more 3-4 looks? I like Phillips, Star, and Jefferson a lot. But to me, an Oliver-Butler 4-3 DT pairing has the highest potential for greatness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I though Henry was going to have a breakout season last year. After he got hurt the team suffered that bad run defense stretch and I think the two were at least in part related. Phillips will hopefully be allowed to come back at his own pace as this team runs 5 deep at DT. I think he can log 30% of defensive snaps by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Looks like he’s slimmed down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 big expectations for this guy he is a baller and was a unfortunate loss last season as he looked like one of the best players on the team during training camp tbh. hope him and Oliver kill it this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: big expectations for this guy he is a baller and was a unfortunate loss last season as he looked like one of the best players on the team during training camp tbh. hope him and Oliver kill it this year My only concern is that sometimes guys never come back from a big injury the same way or they take a year to fully come back. My expectations are that he might take a year to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeF said: Love this young man........ Me too. Harrison Phillips is EXACTLY the kind of player the Bills want and need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: My only concern is that sometimes guys never come back from a big injury the same way or they take a year to fully come back. My expectations are that he might take a year to come back. I am good with that.....we have plenty of IDL talent.....get Horrible Harry back gradually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I am good with that.....we have plenty of IDL talent.....get Horrible Harry back gradually Fully agree that's why I think expectations for him should be tempered. He should be worked in as a rotational player slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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