Reed83HOF Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Not sure how - do they even have picks left in the next 3 drafts? Edited February 20, 2020 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Their insistence on getting rid of him has never made sense to me... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I feel like they'll only take a 1st and that would be a no from me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) I’d be open to exploring this depending on the cost. My guess is that we won’t be in on it with Tre’s contract coming due soon. I doubt Beane is going to pay 2 corners top of the market money. That’s a hard thing to justify, especially with all the contracts we have to think about soon within on our own roster. Then you still have the trade compensation to consider. But...trade our 5th for DJ and a 3rd. Then having 2 thirds now, send one of those 3rd’s and Levi Wallace to Detroit. Work out a contract that’s front loaded and won’t hurt the cap too much when we need to pay our other guys. I could see Beane swinging something like this...albeit not very probable. Edited February 17, 2020 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I've heard of him...get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 It's a nice thought, but Slay is trying to get PAID. We already have one CB who is about to reset the market. The cost in draft compensation and cap isn't worth it. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Their insistence on getting rid of him has never made sense to me... When was the last time that the Lions did something that made sense? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, H2o said: It's a nice thought, but Slay is trying to get PAID. We already have one CB who is about to reset the market. The cost in draft compensation and cap isn't worth it. This is the only right answer. Beane seems to adhere to the model of having certain amounts of money set aside for each position group. Within the cornerback position group, a HUGE chunk of the allotment is about to be paid to Tre'Davious White. I find it extremely doubtful that they'd ALSO be willing to pay Slay. I expect the CB2 next year to be cheap -- a rookie or value FA signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Missing in all this -at least for me, is WHY? Behavior/attitude/criminal charges? I haven’t seen or read anything about it. If it’s any of these things, he’s not ‘Process’. It would be fantastic though to add ANOTHER great CB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, H2o said: It's a nice thought, but Slay is trying to get PAID. We already have one CB who is about to reset the market. The cost in draft compensation and cap isn't worth it. He would be a great fit on the D, but this sums it up perfectly why it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Missing in all this -at least for me, is WHY? Behavior/attitude/criminal charges? I haven’t seen or read anything about it. If it’s any of these things, he’s not ‘Process’. It would be fantastic though to add ANOTHER great CB! Slay is all about the money. I believe he threatened to hold out before and the Lion’s fan at work said this would happen. I assume he is leveraging for another contract and the Lions want no part of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 To me, in this age of football you need two dominant Corners to win in this league. We have one mad need another. If we are ever going to beat the Chiefs especially we need to be really good in the secondary and up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Slay is all about the money. I believe he threatened to hold out before and the Lion’s fan at work said this would happen. I assume he is leveraging for another contract and the Lions want no part of it. A person who cares about money??? Devil! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: A person who cares about money??? Devil! Where was that said in this thread? Where is anything related to what you posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-GunJoshAllen17 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Patrick Surtain and Sam Madison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Missing in all this -at least for me, is WHY? Behavior/attitude/criminal charges? I haven’t seen or read anything about it. If it’s any of these things, he’s not ‘Process’. It would be fantastic though to add ANOTHER great CB! I think it’s more an impasse between Slay and the brass there. He thinks he should be the top paid CB and they don’t think he’s played close to that level (which most agree). Good corner, but his opinion of himself outweighs reality in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 WGR's sister Entercom station in Detroit, "The Ticket 97.1", mentioned on the air last week that the Bills were one of the teams supposedly contacted by the Lions. They said Detroit is looking for a 2nd and a 5th. Slay apparently is looking for Top 3 money. He and Patricia don't get along and that may be playing into this as well. The Lions fans are not too enamored by their version of "New England Midwest", i.e. GM Bob Quinn and HC Patricia, and were totally frustrated when both didn't get canned this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Where was that said in this thread? Where is anything related to what you posted? You said all he cares about is money. Which he should. Dude is a baller for a crap team. He should get every cent he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: You said all he cares about is money. Which he should. Dude is a baller for a crap team. He should get every cent he can. Where was anyone critical of him wanting money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Wait so on this potential scenario we could call the secondary Tre, Slay, J and Hyde! Im listening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Missing in all this -at least for me, is WHY? Behavior/attitude/criminal charges? I haven’t seen or read anything about it. If it’s any of these things, he’s not ‘Process’. It would be fantastic though to add ANOTHER great CB! He wasn’t that good this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Given the young CB's in this draft i think i would rather see Beane & company get one in the draft it would be much lower cost wise & he would be around longer & they could spend the cash on keeping TDW around for the future !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, CommonCents said: Where was anyone critical of him wanting money? You have to bear with Biscuit a little bit. The Dick Jauron Kool-Aid clearly had some residual side effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Diggs might be a dark horse play at 22 for the Bills. I don't know how many people would like that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 If there's an area to trust McDermott, it's in the secondary. I highly doubt he's doing to trade for a guy and then pay him big bucks when he has had tons of success signing 2nd and 3rd tier guys and getting them to play well, and finding gems in the draft or even undrafted free agents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I question the Lions strategy of trying to trade players who perform for them. This is a hard pass given he's pushing 30 and we have to resign White eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 With all the stud WRs coming out, teams are gonna need lots of good corners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 9 hours ago, whatdrought said: Their insistence on getting rid of him has never made sense to me... He'd be a great #2 CB on our team but unfortunately wants to get paid like a #1 somewhere else. He's a very good corner who's trying to lock down an elite contract way over his value. And in no way, shape or form is he worth anything above a 3rd round pick as far as draft compensation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: He'd be a great #2 CB on our team but unfortunately wants to get paid like a #1 somewhere else. He's a very good corner who's trying to lock down an elite contract way over his value. And in no way, shape or form is he worth anything above a 3rd round pick as far as draft compensation. I think he’s worth more to a team that doesn’t have to pay a top corner in the coming years. I could see them getting a second for him, I just don’t understand the decision to trade an all-pro, pro bowl player. My guess is it’s a scheme thing and Patricia cant dare to have guys who aren’t “his guys” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 11 hours ago, CommonCents said: Slay is all about the money. I believe he threatened to hold out before and the Lion’s fan at work said this would happen. I assume he is leveraging for another contract and the Lions want no part of it. I’ve never known a Lions fan. What’s it like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 No thanks, he wasn't very good this year. I think his good years are behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 17 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: To me, in this age of football you need two dominant Corners to win in this league. We have one mad need another. If we are ever going to beat the Chiefs especially we need to be really good in the secondary and up front True on dominant CBs and D lines, but isn’t that second CB generally a really good up and comer, or a solid vet and is paid less? A question for those that track contracts, are there any teams with two CBs making #1CB money? Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 hours ago, inaugural balls said: I’ve never known a Lions fan. What’s it like? Decent guy but he doesn’t want them to trade Golladay so I like him a little bit less than I normally would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 They are obsessed with trading for expensive corners. Do they even have any valuable picks to trade? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They are obsessed with trading for expensive corners. Do they even have any valuable picks to trade? If there’s any validity to it, then it most likely would involve Donald, I would think. But it’s the Lions, so watch it be for Gurely... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: They are obsessed with trading for expensive corners. Do they even have any valuable picks to trade? I wonder if they're already done with Ramsey? Try to get a first rounder back for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They are obsessed with trading for expensive corners. Do they even have any valuable picks to trade? What are the Rams going to give them for Slay? They have almost no 1st and 2nd rounders for a while. How are they going to get him under the cap with everyone else??? This doesn't make much sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, hjnick said: What are the Rams going to give them for Slay? They have almost no 1st and 2nd rounders for a while. How are they going to get him under the cap with everyone else??? This doesn't make much sense to me. Tag and trade Fowler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Rams in "not building through draft" shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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