BuffaloBill963 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Been saying it over and over: the league WANTS the perception of ‘bad officials.’ They WANT fans to think that. This perception allows them to keep steering games quite effectively under the guise of blown calls. These frickin guys are middle school principals and gym teachers at their ‘day’ jobs. You cannot have a working brain and believe the NFL isn’t 100% happy w the ref situation. And they know we’ll never stop following ours and stop watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 thats just dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 There’s probably a Bills Mafia member willing to deliver the cheque, provided the head of the officials’ committee is waiting under the folding table...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Plant, crouch, square up shoulder/forearm and push through the guy it’s the rule, and the violation pairs with a fine pretty standard My point is that you rarely see this called in close games, particularly in overtime of the playoffs. You can make this call 10-15 times a game. I literally found 5 just perusing through the plays. The following is during Houston's go ahead TD drive in the 4th Qtr. Take a look around the 15 second mark of this clip when Houston's fullback lights up Milano on the exact same kind of play (and, just for good measure, watch the Houston WR (87) at the bottom of the screen after the hit on Milano - and the OL (66) holding at the top of the screen during the run - but I digress). As I said, I can easily pull 5 of these clips right now. Again, my point is they are rarely called in these kinds of games. Edited January 11, 2020 by billsfan1959 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: It was a penalty. But I agree a fine is unwarranted. We see a lot worse go unfined. NFL sending a message that the officials got the call correct. See above post Edited January 11, 2020 by billsfan1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: if that’s the case, then I’m actually okay with this. If all blindside blocks or all of a certain fouls has an automatic fine, then it’s objective and negotiated for. if there is discretion in when to award the fine and how much, then Ford really got screwed. This was no “Hines ward block.” we saw the comments a lot when they started protecting receivers. it was pretty well laid out and the oddball amounts (28,075) were from the annual escalator in the system. i haven’t kept up close the last few years but to my understanding it’s Pretty standard structure for roughness penalties that fit in the nature of normal play and not gronk elbow drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 #54 of the Texans has to be laughing his ass off at the fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not even close to just bills fans... I haven’t seen anyone think it was a good call including dean blandino. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: Oh my F*#K... the Jet who sent Haush$ into a year long funk got zilch, and Ford got a FAKE blindside block penalty AND fine? Tell me the NFL isn't biased against the Bills... TELL ME... absolute steaming horse dung... He and a couple others in this thread expose their true colors with TERRIBLE takes on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, chknwing334 said: So if we are to believe that the refs made the right call, they miss several of these calls every game when an O lineman blocks a rusher that gets by them and tries to circle back to the QB. If they are blocking parallel to the line of scrimmage it is a blindside block. This penalty happens 20 times a game. Not if the block with their hands. Again read the rule. 57 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If it’s the rule ok, but the fine seems ridiculous. Duke Johnson got away with two of these during the game btw, both times on Edmunds, where he lunged backwards throwing a shoulder in. Including 1 on a TD run. I don’t blame this for the Loss, but the fine is ridiculous to me. Fine is ridiculous. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 And yet Clowny gets nothing for taking out wentz? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Breaking News: Belichick fined $500,000 and indefinitely suspended by the league after this round of Video-Gate... ^^^ Filed in "Things You'll Never See" but make it a Bill? I mean look at Gronk, he freaking tried to injure a player and he got one game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Watch this short video from NFL football operations. There is no way Ford's block was anything close to the examples provided. The rule is more than just the blocker's path are toward or parallel to his end zone. Based off this video, Duke Johnson 100% should have been flagged for the same hit on Edmunds during the 2pt conversion run by Watson. https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1213846088999936007 NFL is a joke. Ohh yeah, this isn't a penalty or fine either. Still can't believe Knox missed that block. I'm surprised Allen was not knocked out on that play or even entered concussion protocol. I'm so at a loss for this league and the corruption going on. Let's see what team/s get screwed today. Edited January 11, 2020 by Real McNasty Allen helmet hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, chknwing334 said: So if we are to believe that the refs made the right call, they miss several of these calls every game when an O lineman blocks a rusher that gets by them and tries to circle back to the QB. If they are blocking parallel to the line of scrimmage it is a blindside block. This penalty happens 20 times a game. It depends on where they are. I cant comment on plays I haven't seen (im sure they exist) but the rule does not apply between the tackles within 3 yards of the LoS as long as the ball hasn't left the area. Edited January 11, 2020 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: What direction is Ford blocking in the video? Please find the part of the rule where it says it is ok to block toward your endzone if the guy sees it? The rule says he has to initiate contact and it has to be forcible contact. Neither of those was true on this block, so the direction does not matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Doc said: Have to keep up the illusion. Meanwhile will any of the helmet-to-helmet hit to, or Watt landing on top of, Josh be fined? Doubtful. Exactly right Doc. They issued an unnecessary fine to deflect any criticism. Especially with more questionable calls coming up this weekend . . Edited January 11, 2020 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: See here is an example. The rule has nothing to do with the defender seeing him. It about which direction the blocking player is facing. You can’t block towards your own endzone. Mike Perreira and Dean Blandino both said they he was not facing back to the goal line but rather angled toward sideline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Mike Perreira and Dean Blandino both said they he was not facing back to the goal line but rather angled toward sideline. The rule actually says anywhere between facing the goal line and parallel to the goal line. So it meets that criteria. The problem is that it doesn't meet any of the other criteria stated in the rule. It's absurd that even when the highest NFL authorities on the rules get something right, they manage to stumble onto it for the wrong reasons. Edited January 11, 2020 by MPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 can he appeal this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: can he appeal this? I really hope he does. The penalty alone should be enough. Even to the NFL if this is a Blindside hit like they say it is how is that even worth a fine to begin with. It was soft as hell. I'm trying to really understand what the league is trying to prove here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, Lurker said: This drives me bizerk...if were going by the letter of the law we scored a TD on that kickoff. You can’t enforce rules when you choose. Go by the book or dont 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: This angers me. I wasn’t angry until I read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: See which way Allen is running. See the back of Ford’s jersey. It’s a penalty. Learn the god dam rules and stop complaining about the officiating It’s a bad call many NFL pundits and former officials have come out and call it what it is. Edited January 11, 2020 by Lenigmusx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Seems like a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Plant, crouch, square up shoulder/forearm and push through the guy it’s the rule, and the violation pairs with a fine pretty standard Read the rule. If he's planted and crouched, it is impossible for him to be the one who initiates contact. He moved into the path of the defender and let the guy run into him. That clearly does not meet the standard set in the rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Seriously? And Clowney got nothing for knocking Wentz's head off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, DC Tom said: Seriously? And Clowney got nothing for knocking Wentz's head off? Thing is, if Ford let that guy go, there’s a possibility he hits Allen on the back end of that play, like Clowney do to Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, RunTheBall said: 100% this. The NFL is in full CYA mode because it was a BS call and they know it. Of course they missed the head shot Josh took on the same play which would have offset it at a minimum. Spot on my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Simply amazing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Seriously? And Clowney got nothing for knocking Wentz's head off? Because they didn’t call a penalty. God forbid they admit they were wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: What a complete piece of ***** the NFL is turning itself into. Get Rodger Goodell out of there. You are exactly right on point. None of this would be going on without the approval of Goodell. He continues to demonstrate that he has created a completely incompetent organization to run the league. I'm not sure what the owners see that leads them to keep this fool in his position. As another post indicated, fantasy football and gambling is propping up the interest in the league. Playoff games with unsold seats, unsold TV advertising slots, and widespread fan dissatisfaction with the stadium game day experience should be enough for the owners to put some heat on Roger's sorry a**. Cody Ford should file a grievance and fight this ridiculous fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: He and a couple others in this thread expose their true colors with TERRIBLE takes on the topic. Soooo, do you mean to say that the Jets special teamer who wrecked Hauschka got a fair shake, in light of Ford's treatment by the NFL? Asking for a friend... Edited January 11, 2020 by ROCBillsBeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I hate crying about the refs and thinking there is some silly conspiracy against the Bills but that was an awful call. Football is the greatest sport in the world and the nfl is run by morons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) This is so awful by the league, it's almost worth a Bills Mafia 'Go Fund Me' page to cover it. 36 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: Because they didn’t call a penalty. God forbid they admit they were wrong. That's what this is all about.....reinforcing the ref's calls, right or wrong. Edited January 11, 2020 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I can't remember, did Ford criticize the officiating afterwards? I could those rats throwing a fine at him for that and saying it was for the "hit". Either way totally inconsistent fine. It was basically a normal block. People have skated on WAAAAY worse hits. NFL officiating is a freakin joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 hours ago, BillsFanSD said: The NFL just doubles down on stupid. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlBillsFan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Yet Clowney got nothing for his hit on Wentz... I swear the NFL is trying to test people’s patience and daring people to stop watching I support this theory. If you think about it, it's the same for politics now. They are testing the servitude of the people and how bad they can get away with everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: My point is that you rarely see this called in close games, particularly in overtime of the playoffs. You can make this call 10-15 times a game. I literally found 5 just perusing through the plays. The following is during Houston's go ahead TD drive in the 4th Qtr. Take a look around the 15 second mark of this clip when Houston's fullback lights up Milano on the exact same kind of play (and, just for good measure, watch the Houston WR (87) at the bottom of the screen after the hit on Milano - and the OL (66) holding at the top of the screen during the run - but I digress). As I said, I can easily pull 5 of these clips right now. Again, my point is they are rarely called in these kinds of games. This. 100x this. These are blocks that happen ALL THE TIME during NFL games. They're unavoidable. To call Ford's block a 15 yard penalty which basically lost the game for the Bills and then assessing a fine on top is simply the league justifying a horrific, game-altering, officiating blunder, nothing more. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I hate crying about the refs and thinking there is some silly conspiracy against the Bills but that was an awful call. Football is the greatest sport in the world and the nfl is run by morons. Agreed. Using refs as an excuse is just that.....but that was a garbage call and the NFL then makes it worse. Ford should make a big deal out of it for no other reason than to shed light on this embarrassing fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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