Injuries to starters this Sunday

[benderbender]

Seeing how the seeding won’t be affected, it seems there is more to lose than to gain by playing starters vs the Jets. Who is going to shoulder the blame for the possible (heaven forbid) injuries?

Edited December 26, 2019 by benderbender

[123719bwiqrb]

2 minutes ago, benderbender said:

Seeing how the seeding won’t be affected, is there more to lose than to gain by playing starters vs the Jets?

 

Long story short, they need the work.  They'll be fine, the coaches will call plays that keep them out of trouble.  Real generic *****.

[Augie]

I know how some others feel (why take the risk?) and I get that. I think it depends on The Who, When and How. If it’s like preseason game #1 or 2 and something freaky happens in a series or two, that’s just football and could have happened in practice. I know the other side, don’t play, don’t get hurt. I’ll trust the coach to be smart on this one. 

 

It may be a little like preseason, where it doesn’t “matter”, but they want to build a culture of winning and high expectations.

 

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Edited December 26, 2019 by Augie

[Formerly Allan in MD]

2 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

 

Long story short, they need the work.  They'll be fine, the coaches will call plays that keep them out of trouble.  Real generic *****.

Yeah, guaranteed. 

[Gugny]

As long as it's not outwardly dirty - which could easily happen with Gregggg on the other sideline - then it's just part of the game.

 

That said ... if they're not on the field, it's very likely that they won't get hurt.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I just can’t see any positive that comes out of any starter playing. You aren’t going to be able to build on anything against that team. All that can happen is bad IMO. It’s truly senseless. We are in the best spot that we have been in for 20 years. Why risk something dumb? It’s rhetorical. There’s no actual answer.

[LeGOATski]

Save Allen for the playoffs.

[Plano]

They'll be in for 1 series, everyone CALM DOWN

[BuffaloBillies]

Rest SUPER KEY players: Allen, Singletary, Brown, Hyde, Poyer, Tre, Edmunds.

And maybe give the old guys the day off too. Make all those inactives all year, active this week.

[machine gun kelly]

I don’t think they will be in more than a quarter or a half.  I wouldn’t worry about it.  They’ve had 15 games and almost no one was hurt. I understand the concern.  I really do.

 

what McD says and what he does are two things.  When was the last time Belicheat was honest with the media?  If I’m wrong I understand and those that think we should sit everyone could be right.  Just an opinion.  

[Ya Digg?]

You still have to play starters no matter what. There just isn’t enough room on a roster to only play backups. Sure, rest some of the guys and yes there are a handful you can just make inactive, but there are still guys who are important to the team during the playoffs who have to play. I understand the premise of what’s being said here, but I get the feeling people think you can just pull every starter and have them sit out most/all of the game. 

[JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

It may be a little like preseason, where it doesn’t “matter”, but they want to build a culture of winning and high expectations.

 

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could not have said this better!

[cDAVIS]

its important for young players to prepare like its any other week and get some full speed reps in. you dont want them going into the playoffs any bit rusty. remember how we looked after the bye week? you dont want that vs houston. smart move by MCD and BB

[JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

Save Allen for the playoffs.

or, play Allen and call deep ball after deep ball until he hits them.  

 

You cant buy training like this.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, benderbender said:

Seeing how the seeding won’t be affected, it seems there is more to lose than to gain by playing starters vs the Jets. Who is going to shoulder the blame for the possible (heaven forbid) injuries?

 

Oh, McDermott made it clear he would, in his pressers.  Said that he knew there would be second guessing either way.  Buck stops with him, he knows it.

[Albany,n.y.]

If you blink you'll miss the starters.

[NewEra]

I’ll blame @benderbender 

[Augie]

Playing the game presents the risk of injury. There are other dangers we need to avoid, like wet mats. In little league right before a game I turned and bumped my head on the flag pole. I got a goose egg so big on my forehead the helmet wouldn’t fit. It’s a dangerous world! 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Plano said:

They'll be in for 1 series, everyone CALM DOWN

 

That would be super silly

[Mark Vader]

6 hours ago, Augie said:

I know how some others feel (why take the risk?) and I get that. I think it depends on The Who, When and How. If it’s like preseason game #1 or 2 and something freaky happens in a series or two, that’s just football and could have happened in practice. I know the other side, don’t play, don’t get hurt. I’ll trust the coach to be smart on this one. 

 

It may be a little like preseason, where it doesn’t “matter”, but they want to build a culture of winning and high expectations.

 

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I agree with you.

 

I'm fine with a good amount of the starters playing. They won't play the entire game, just enough to keep them in good form for the following week.

[longtimebillsfan]

My feeling is that Beane and McDermott are the professionals.  Each decision they make can put their career on the line.  If they feel it is necessary to play the starters on Sunday vs the Jets to keep them sharp, I am behind them 100%.  They have made many more correct decisions than bad ones in their time in Orchard Park.

 

Go Bills!

[Mrbojanglezs]

Depends to who and when in the game. You can't sit everyone 

[ProcessTruster]

11 hours ago, ScotSHO said:

 

Long story short, they need the work.  They'll be fine, the coaches will call plays that keep them out of trouble.  Real generic *****.

yeah the rosters are way too small vs the preseason to treat it like a preseason game (like 30 less guys) .   Some positions, yes, but all?  No. 

 

Plus IMO they're not good enough yet on offense to further than the second round (which would be awesome, compared to where they were a year ago) so lets get out there and continue to work. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

11 hours ago, Augie said:

I think it depends on The Who, When and How.

No, that’s baseball.  ‘When’ and ‘How’ must be replacing ‘What’ and ‘I Don’t Know’.  ?

[Buddo]

While it can be argued that we have 11 'starters' on offense, the same can't be said for the D, with the variety of rotations we use.

 

Ultimately, I think there will be quite a lot of 'snap count' management, as we can't rest everyone we might like to anyway.

 

Guys who are carrying 'knocks' will probably not see too much action. Some who have been inactive, will probably get to see the field some.

 

It should be an opportunity to get guys some playing time, just in case they are needed, and that would include Barclay, who I'm sure will get to see the field.

[CaptnCoke11]

12 hours ago, Augie said:

I know how some others feel (why take the risk?) and I get that. I think it depends on The Who, When and How. If it’s like preseason game #1 or 2 and something freaky happens in a series or two, that’s just football and could have happened in practice. I know the other side, don’t play, don’t get hurt. I’ll trust the coach to be smart on this one. 

 

It may be a little like preseason, where it doesn’t “matter”, but they want to build a culture of winning and high expectations.

 

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Nothing screams building a culture of winning more than being able to rest starts week 17 cause you’ve already won enough games

[Lfod]

What do we do if no one is injured? 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

I was in the rest the starter camp but have changed my mind. They should play to win the game. I won’t blame any injury on McD if he plays the starters the entire game. I would rest Morse and Lorax. Everyone else plays. 

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Nothing screams building a culture of winning more than being able to rest starts week 17 cause you’ve already won enough games

Culture of winning a wild card spot??? 

[ALF]

Any injured Bills on offense , I first think Gregg Williams

[row_33]

You will get what you get being a Bills fan

 

and you will LIKE IT

 

 

[tumaro02]

13 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I just can’t see any positive that comes out of any starter playing. You aren’t going to be able to build on anything against that team. All that can happen is bad IMO. It’s truly senseless. We are in the best spot that we have been in for 20 years. Why risk something dumb? It’s rhetorical. There’s no actual answer.

What will be fascinating is who will be on the "inactive" list. We expect those that are usually on the list to play a lot in this game. We will know at 11:30 which starters, if any, will not play in the game for sure.

[Seasons1992]

14 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

 

That said ... if they're not on the field, it's very likely that they won't get hurt.

 

 

 

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

 

 

 

That is exactly why I said "very likely!!"  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

40 minutes ago, ALF said:

Any injured Bills on offense , I first think Gregg Williams

blame Gregg for it. 
 

and then I blame YOU 

 

jinx threads are bad juju

[Putin]

12 hours ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said:

or, play Allen and call deep ball after deep ball until he hits them.  

 

You cant buy training like this.

Oh yah that’s what we need Allen dropping back on every play and hanging on to the ball , we should also try and improve on design running plays for Allen ?

 

The whole season all we talked about is making the playoffs , well we are here NOW HEALTHY with a good chance of winning our first playoff game since the 90’s , so with that said let’s go play  the Jets in a MEANINGLESS game what’s the worst that could happen ?‍♂️ 

 

Edited December 26, 2019 by Putin

[Augie]

2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Nothing screams building a culture of winning more than being able to rest starts week 17 cause you’ve already won enough games

 

I’m assuming they WILL be sitting, it’s just a matter of when. I’ll trust McD to find the right balance here. It IS a risk, but I’ll wait and see what actually happens. 

[PetermansRedemption]

Hopefully they activate the Duke for one game. I’m sure the fans would love it and it will allow them to further limit Brown and Beasley. 

[thurst44]

19 minutes ago, Putin said:

Oh yah that’s what we need Allen dropping back on every play and hanging on to the ball , we should also try and improve on design running plays for Allen ?

 

The whole season all we talked about is making the playoffs , well we are here NOW HEALTHY with a good chance of winning our first playoff game since the 90’s , so with that said let’s go play  the Jets in a MEANINGLESS game what’s the worst that could happen ?‍♂️ 

 

In his eyes, it may not be so "meaningless." I suspect he values going into the playoffs on a strong win (as opposed to a painful loss) is worth taking a chance on injuries. The philosophy -- at least my stab at a guess at it -- is that they'll have two more weeks to get to the point where they can potentially beat a Ravens and Patriots on the road. It's a long shot, but sometimes talented teams get hot at the right time. I've lived in NYC area since college and have seen the Giants pull that trick off twice. 

 

I like the move, but, yes, if Allen is hurt in this game, it will be hard to defend in retrospect.

[brianb386]

I am with McDermott on this one. I don't want a week off after a loss going into the playoffs. I want our starters to play long enough to get some good things going and build momentum.

[BillnutinHouston]

15 hours ago, ScotSHO said:

 

Long story short, they need the work.  They'll be fine, the coaches will call plays that keep them out of trouble.  Real generic *****.

So by your logic, generic ***** gets them the work they need.  Does this make sense?