krf139 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Crazy idea that would never happen, but if it did, I guess we'd finally get our home playoff game: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/opinion-roger-goodell-needs-to-kick-the-cheating-patriots-out-of-the-playoffs/ar-BBY58PQ?ocid=spartandhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) If things really are as they seem and this is exclusive to the Patriots then some type of hard hitting progressive discipline is absolutely deserved. Exclusion from the playoffs should be a definite possibility otherwise Goodell and the NFL are a joke. Edited December 17, 2019 by bmur66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I say keep in the the playoffs but suspend Belicheck for a full season next year. This is the 3rd time he was CAUGHT cheating. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 if this happened in college, there would be a multi-year postseason ban, as well as a ban on recruiting. Here is my suggestion: Kick Pats out of Playoffs in 2019 and 2020, as well as take away their top 2 round picks in the next 2 drafts. Fine the organization a huge amount. They clearly don't get the message. 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Take away all of the previous super bowl wins, take back the trophy's, all players must donate their SB rings to charity and Giselle needs to divorce Brady and get the house. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I prefer to beat a Patriots team that is at full strength, in Gillette Stadium, in front of a sold out Pats fan base. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 The issue with kicking them out of playoffs is what if it was a team with no chance of making playoffs and was doing it to try to save face either with fans or a coaching staff trying to not get cut? This is what I think the NFL will do: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 For this weekend I'd like to see the league order and execute an electronic sweep of their stadium to ensure there are no "bugs" in the visitor's locker room, the coaches booth, or any intercepting of signals between the sidelines and the QB's helmet. I also want to see if Brady has his comm link turned off during the play as required by league rules. Then get to the bottom of it, confirm who is giving the orders to cheat and who knows. Then fine them and suspend them for life. In the past I heard players say they have '"fans" at the visitor's hotel pulling fire alarms to wake the team up all night long. For the Chiefs game I heard from various outlets that the ground crew in Providence "forgot" to unload all the teams uniforms and equipment and the plane had to be recalled from Newark to get the rest of the equipment before game time. Many of the players had to scramble and rush to get dressed for the game and a lot of pre-game activity was disrupted. More BS.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_believer Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) At least McDermott is wise to them. He kicked the Patriots assistants off the field when the Bills were doing their pregame activities. A year or even multi-year ban on Bellicheck might be comparable to some of the punishments for PEDs for players. Edited December 17, 2019 by bills_believer 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Let's send this to Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis for sentencing ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Castrations are what’s in order here, the entire organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, krf139 said: Crazy idea that would never happen, but if it did, I guess we'd finally get our home playoff game: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/opinion-roger-goodell-needs-to-kick-the-cheating-patriots-out-of-the-playoffs/ar-BBY58PQ?ocid=spartandhp I like that someone (anyone) in the media has the will to call out the Cheaters - but I do disagree with his one premise "they are so good they don't need to cheat". I hate that (often used) logic when assessing the Cheaters - they are so good because they cheat. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Takes the wins and keep the loses so Bellychek win % takes a hit and include more of these * graphics when talking about that Taintriots. And sure go with a post season ban this year and suspension this next 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Castrations are what’s in order here, the entire organization. That's fine for all the men in the organization, but what about a punishment for Brady? 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, wppete said: I say keep in the the playoffs but suspend Belicheck for a full season next year. This is the 3rd time he was CAUGHT cheating. 3rd? way too low!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, Limeaid said: The issue with kicking them out of playoffs is what if it was a team with no chance of making playoffs and was doing it to try to save face either with fans or a coaching staff trying to not get cut? This is what I think the NFL will do: no doubt that's what the NFL will do. But the issue of a postseason ban is the same as in college. Perhaps a team is banned and would not have made it anyway. That's why you need to strip draft picks in addition, and fine the organization a huge amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: For the Chiefs game I heard from various outlets that the ground crew in Providence "forgot" to unload all the teams uniforms and equipment and the plane had to be recalled from Newark to get the rest of the equipment before game time. Many of the players had to scramble and rush to get dressed for the game and a lot of pre-game activity was disrupted. More BS.. This is actually in correct, and I am not defending the Cheatriots. They were not able to unload the gear because there was HS football being played at the stadium that weekend including Sunday morning and the locker room was not available so they couldn't unload the gear. That detail was forgotten by the plane staff when it left. Now as to why there was HS football being played so late in the year at an NFL stadium... particularly the Cheatriots is a whole other story of "convenience". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, BigPappy said: This is actually in correct, and I am not defending the Cheatriots. They were not able to unload the gear because there was HS football being played at the stadium that weekend including Sunday morning and the locker room was not available so they couldn't unload the gear. That detail was forgotten by the plane staff when it left. Now as to why there was HS football being played so late in the year at an NFL stadium... particularly the Cheatriots is a whole other story of "convenience". It was the Chiefs staff that decided not to offload all their equipment, into say.... some vehicles, when they realized the issue with the stadium occupation. They instead let them sit on the plane until the stadium locker room was available. Somehow these boneheads didn't realize their plane had another destination after Providence. And they didn't notify the crew that they didn't offload the equipment, which is a serious no no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Bobby Kraft runs the NFL and therefore nothing will ever happen to them until after he is gone. He has such pull over other owners and in-turn Roger Goodell, that no one can go against him. This is clearly reflected in the decisions of guys like Al Riveron and his officials on the field. It is prominent at owners meetings and in the rules committee. What Kraft wants, Kraft gets. There's really no point in sweating the issue. It isn't going to change. What we can look forward to is the retiring of Bill Bellichik who ultimately is the reason this is all tilted so obviously in the Patriots' direction. Kraft simply cannot do it without BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I have a better idea...forfeit the win in a game you cheated on. So the Bengals game is a LOSS. Wouldn't that be sweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 If only we hadn't choked against Cleveland, we'd be playing for the AFC East title Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I imagine they'll get a small fine and that will be that. Seemed like the NFL was already putting out feelers for the idea that they don't view this as a big deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Missing the post season once, after cheating the NFL for 20 years and stealing 6 Superbowls??????? Talk about a slap on the wrist. Anything short of ALL wins vacated, Belicheater banned for life, and Kraft being forced to sell the team will be an insufficient punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: That's fine for all the men in the organization, but what about a punishment for Brady? HEY-O! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 My punishment... They don’t get their full share of revenue from the revenue sharing agreement. Reduce their take by 20-30% and then you’ll see change and a much stricter oversight from owners across the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: no doubt that's what the NFL will do. But the issue of a postseason ban is the same as in college. Perhaps a team is banned and would not have made it anyway. That's why you need to strip draft picks in addition, and fine the organization a huge amount. Post season ban on NE equals salary cap purge and trading near term draft picks for higher down the road picks. NE salary cap and draft picks would need to be dealt with as well. A reduced cap and loss of high picks would be far better in my mind versus a playoff ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, clayboy54 said: Bobby Kraft runs the NFL and therefore nothing will ever happen to them until after he is gone. He has such pull over other owners and in-turn Roger Goodell, that no one can go against him. This is clearly reflected in the decisions of guys like Al Riveron and his officials on the field. It is prominent at owners meetings and in the rules committee. What Kraft wants, Kraft gets. There's really no point in sweating the issue. It isn't going to change. What we can look forward to is the retiring of Bill Bellichik who ultimately is the reason this is all tilted so obviously in the Patriots' direction. Kraft simply cannot do it without BB. This is literally not true, the other owners are in general sick of the Pats' ***** Deflategate would have been nothing had any other team done it, and they lost a first rounder and their HOF QB for 4 games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: Post season ban on NE equals salary cap purge and trading near term draft picks for higher down the road picks. NE salary cap and draft picks would need to be dealt with as well. A reduced cap and loss of high picks would be far better in my mind versus a playoff ban. reduced cap is fine with me as well. although I feel like the Pats** would cheat their way around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: It was the Chiefs staff.....And they didn't notify the crew that they didn't offload the equipment, which is a serious no no. On Andy Reid’s staff?! How can that be?! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 hours ago, clayboy54 said: Bobby Kraft runs the NFL He has such pull over other owners and in-turn Roger Goodell, that no one can go against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 If players get immediate suspensions then do too must coaches, GMs & anyone involved. This is more of a Belichick Ernie Adams suspension. The damage is already done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, wppete said: I say keep in the the playoffs but suspend Belicheck for a full season next year. This is the 3rd time he was CAUGHT cheating. Completely agree. Didn't the bounty gate result in a year long suspension? At this point the NFL is fostering an environment that incentivizes this behavior. Edited December 18, 2019 by CoudyBills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Best humiliation is to beat them on the field despite their attempts to bend the rules and utilize obscure loopholes in the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said: Best humiliation is to beat them on the field despite their attempts to bend the rules and utilize obscure loopholes in the rules It would be nice but it won't be easy. First off NE typically pounds teams they play after the media paints them as cheaters. Secondly, they actually have something to play for (home field) whereas nothing will change with the Bills playoff schedule no matter whether they win or lose these next two weeks. It's nice to say we're going to be motivated to "send a message" but I suspect we'll lose this one. And that doesn't trouble me all that much - I'd rather beat them the 3rd time we play them this year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said: It would be nice but it won't be easy. First off NE typically pounds teams they play after the media paints them as cheaters. Secondly, they actually have something to play for (home field) whereas nothing will change with the Bills playoff schedule no matter whether they win or lose these next two weeks. It's nice to say we're going to be motivated to "send a message" but I suspect we'll lose this one. And that doesn't trouble me all that much - I'd rather beat them the 3rd time we play them this year ? While unlikely, the AFCE is still in play, so yes they have something to play for. As for this, the goal is *this* Super Bowl. NE doesn't care what the punishment is, so long as it's next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Life time suspension for Belichik. Vacate all wins in the Belichik era. Force Kraft to sell the team and return Massachusetts to the Wampanoag tribe. It's the right thing to do to protect the Shield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, ocemur said: Life time suspension for Belichik. Vacate all wins in the Belichik era. Force Kraft to sell the team and return Massachusetts to the Wampanoag tribe. It's the right thing to do to protect the Shield. Finally someone with a level head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 54 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said: It would be nice but it won't be easy. First off NE typically pounds teams they play after the media paints them as cheaters. Secondly, they actually have something to play for (home field) whereas nothing will change with the Bills playoff schedule no matter whether they win or lose these next two weeks. It's nice to say we're going to be motivated to "send a message" but I suspect we'll lose this one. And that doesn't trouble me all that much - I'd rather beat them the 3rd time we play them this year ? If Bills win out and the Evil Empire loses out it affects playoff slotting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I’ve asked for that too. But honestly the only solution is for the NFL to push Kraft out and sell the team. If the NBA can do it, so can the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 All I know is they are getting more comp picks because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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