rayray808 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 WEEK 1: B- WEEK 2: B WEEK 3: C+ WEEK 4: F WEEK 5: B+ WEEK 7: B WEEK 8: D+ WEEK 9: B+ WEEK 10: B- WEEK 11: A WEEK 12: B WEEK 13: A WEEK 14: C WEEK 15: A 13/25 - 139 yards - 1 TD - 1 INT - 28 yards rushing 1 TD Grading beyond the stats tonight... On a Sunday Night Football game, where all sorts of records and trends showed that we were not supposed to win this game, Josh Allen helped overcome various obstacles, stayed poised, and lead this team to a W. He had one bad throw that Chris Colinsworth just picked apart, and yet there were many bad drops that could have extended drives. The INT was off Coleʻs hands. Was it high? Sure. Was it catchable? Sure. Fumbles from Devin, Duck throwing prayers and having them answered... none of that seemed to rattle Josh. He was a man on a mission and tonight it was mission accomplished. We are in the playoffs bay bayyyyyyyy! 7 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 C+ 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 A is very generous. I’d give him a B. Bad ball to Beasley resulting in a TO in a grind out game was not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 C+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Its a C from me and the coaches neutered him which was depressing as all get out to see. Still love Josh though and glad we got the win! GO BILLS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: C+ Agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Whhhaaaaatttt? An A? He did enough to win, but didn’t play well at all. C- 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 OP just riding high on them playoff feels. I guess we should let him!? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Steelers defense been making a lot of QBs look below average lately and Allen wasn’t. Solid B. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Yeah I would go around the C to C+ But I give him respect he’s got a real knack for making the plays in the 4th and sometimes that’s all that matters. He is literally his own worst enemy almost every game. If he ever gets a grip on that footwork and the easier throws his game will go to a whole new level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I’ll give him a B like he always seems to do he makes plays in the 4th quarter and that just can’t be taught he had the occasional overthrow but man his receivers literally need an adult to get on rides at Disney World they’re so small 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 The TD catch was a phenomenal throw..only a few make that in the NFL. Josh played not great, but very well. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 B- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) C+/B- Positives: Clutch, never rattled on a big stage and overcame poor plays around him. Negatives: A couple inaccurate throws and a coaching game-plan that took the ball out of his hands. Edited December 16, 2019 by SCBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 A- When it mattered most, Allen came through big. With this offense and considering where Allen is in his development the stats mean nothing. Two drives earned him the A-. 1) After the bad punt we faced 3rd & 20 and Allen gained 12 yards on a nice run. Then on 4th & 8 he had a perfect throw to Brown for the 1st down. That kept the drive alive and we got a TD. 2) After tying the game Allen had 2 fantastic throws midway through the 4th quarter to take the Bills 70 yards for the winning TD. Playing on the road against an elite D is not going to boost your stats. What matters is what happens at key moments in the game. And again, Allen came through. He now has 27 total TD's and 13 total TO's. That's really good. And those are the numbers that matter. Yardage, not so much. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, KD in CA said: That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick. Brown did what most WRs in the NFL do for their QB. You’re just not used to seeing it. The pick was 90% on Beasley. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just another game winning 4th quarter drive no biggie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I'll go B- Drops by the WR's early were really bad. Yes, high ball to Beasley but that's a ball that many WR's catch. Receivers need to make plays for their QB. Did enough to win. Looked pretty effective at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, KD in CA said: That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick. The pick wasn't all on Allen. I would say it was 75% on Beasley and 25% on Allen. Was the ball thrown high? Yes. But so what. That pass is caught most of the time in the NFL. I like Beasley and think he's been a great addition to the Bills but size matters and in some situations we just have to live with the disadvantage that his size brings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, TwistofFate said: C+ If you think this guy driving down the field to score a game-winning touchdown on the road in FREAKING Pittsburgh is a C+ game, you don't know schitt about this game. Period. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 B+. That’s one helluva D he went up against tonight, just after playing Balt’s D. He played well. More consistency is needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 B- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, bills6969 said: B+. That’s one helluva D he went up against tonight, just after playing Balt’s D. He played well. More consistency is needed Exactly. After getting his ass handed to him vs. Baltimore, you have to wonder how he would respond. He made the plays he needed to make on a national stage against one of the best defenses in the game. Solid B+. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, KD in CA said: That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick. I disagree 100% * First off that was a brilliant back shoulder throw by Allen. Mahomes & Rogers hit that pass all the time. You do realize that the Steelers DB was called for PI on that play right? That's what a great back shoulder throw does - catch it for a big gain or draw a PI. * Brown didn't really prevent a pick on that throw. That was the moron Collingsworth trying to claim that the throw was almost intercepted. Watch a replay and the DB would have had to make a spectacular play to INT that ball. It was a good 50/50 ball by Allen and Brown did a nice job fighting for it and preventing any chance for an INT. Pretty routine play by an NFL WR. That POS Collinsworth was unbelievably negative about Allen. That "almost interception" was a perfect example of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it Haha John Brown saved him because he made a contested catch!! First time in NFL history I have ever seen that play made! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Haha John Brown saved him because he made a contested catch!! First time in NFL history I have ever seen that play made! ‘Once making the catch’ lmao dying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I'll give him a B given the circumstances, playing a great D on the road in his very first night primetime game and the stakes being high. Normally with the raw numbers he put up the grade would be a C at best. But the QBR grading system thought he did well giving him a 59 QBR. Only a 65 QB rating that was surely dragged down a lot by the INT that still could have possibly been caught by Beasley, or easily caught by any WR 6'0" tall. I think we do need to take notice to what the Ravens are doing with Jackson and find ourselves more large targets for Allen in the off-season. Let's not forget Brady had Gronk for all those years too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Quote B You have to factor the competition......the importance of the game......and his impact on the game He had the pick....but that was really not his fault it popped off Beasely's hands SEVERAL drops in this game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I'd say a B. JA didn't play badly and made the huge plays when it counted. He could have played better but also didn't throw 4 interceptions, and his 1 int was off the hands of his receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I would also grade Allen a B. The inconsistency is still there, but he made some big, BIG throws when it mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easterner Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 My opinion Is if anyone thinks Allen should get a A for that performance something is wrong with you. 139 passing yards for a NFL QB is just not good enough. This is not acceptable for a NFL QB. We are lucky the Pittsburgh QB was worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Easterner said: My opinion Is if anyone thinks Allen should get a A for that performance something is wrong with you. 139 passing yards for a NFL QB is just not good enough. This is not acceptable for a NFL QB. We are lucky the Pittsburgh QB was worse. Would you want 300 yards in a loss? Cowboys fan I assume? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Easterner said: My opinion Is if anyone thinks Allen should get a A for that performance something is wrong with you. 139 passing yards for a NFL QB is just not good enough. This is not acceptable for a NFL QB. We are lucky the Pittsburgh QB was worse. I gave him a C+/B-, but you’re being a bit disingenuous tbh. Two things against him: 1) Multiple drops 2) Coaching staff went next level conservative for most of the game Edited December 16, 2019 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Easterner said: My opinion Is if anyone thinks Allen should get a A for that performance something is wrong with you. 139 passing yards for a NFL QB is just not good enough. This is not acceptable for a NFL QB. We are lucky the Pittsburgh QB was worse. Dude, the guy is in his second year on a ground-up rebuild against a team that won 7 of its last 8 with a kick-your-ass defense. He took what was given to him. He made the big throws that needed to be made. He threw for a TD and ran for a TD. AGAIN. I suspect you're one of those guys who thinks the problem with Josh Allen is he hasn't had a 300 yard game. C'mon. Admit it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: That's crazy. The defense gets an A. Allen gets a C+. The pick was all on him and wasn't his only bad throw of the night. Brown saved him on back to back deep throws, once catching it and once preventing a pick. I would agree that Brown saved him on the second one .. but the first .. that is exactly where you want that placed. Brady makes that throw all the time and people say it was a smart throw. Have the receiver come back and the DB is in a horrible position. As for the Cole Beasley pass .. yes it was a bit high .. but excellent receivers make these all the time. The problem is we have very good receivers, but not an excellent reciever who will make the really hard catch. Edited December 16, 2019 by CorkScrewHill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 It’s pass/fail now. Just get the win. He passed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 He was pretty average but ya gotta take degree of difficulty into consideration here. -in Heinz field. Prime time game -arguably hottest d in nfl -wr’s once again dropping balls -the guy in this thread putting the INT on Allen is a douche. the dude did it in the 4th quarter AGAIN.... A “C” that I’m putting on a curve to a “B-“ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Dude, the guy is in his second year on a ground-up rebuild against a team that won 7 of its last 8 with a kick-your-ass defense. He took what was given to him. He made the big throws that needed to be made. He threw for a TD and ran for a TD. AGAIN. I suspect you're one of those guys who thinks the problem with Josh Allen is he hasn't had a 300 yard game. C'mon. Admit it. It’s frustrating when people won’t acknowledge Allen being an absolute monster rushing for TDs. Most QBs have to hand off or throw for TDs, even one yard out. That allows the defense to have a free man to move around. Against us, you have to account for the QB, and even then, the dude just runs people over for scores. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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