hjnick Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Often hurt... There's your answer, Nope. But if you wanted to take the chance. 1Mil base, all incentives up to 4 Mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Nope... Watkins is a prima donna who cares more about himself... than his team and teammates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Veteran minimum on a 1 year “ prove it” deal No. A veteran minimum gives him salary for year when (not if) he is injured. Many veteran minimum deals are contracts to save team cap space which is not an issue. Bringing him in week 2 makes more sense since if he is cut he is not guaranteed money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I'd take him back low and with incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, blacklabel said: Alright, I'm not necessarily a huge Watkins fan but the part I highlighted is untrue. The dude does put in the work. When he was in Buffalo he was always part of the group of receivers that'd fly out to meet Tyrod and run routes in their off-time, he's done that in KC as well. He's also had zero issues with any community in the cities he's played. Obviously, he didn't pan out here and that's a bummer but it's not like it's entirely 100% on him, injuries added up over his first few seasons and beyond that I don't think his abilities were maximized while he was here. The injuries, getting traded, being on three different teams within one calendar year, having OC's struggle to find what his best role would be, etc. are all things that have surely steered his career in a direction he probably didn't expect. The decent thing is, is he's still young enough to rebound and turn into the receiver people saw at Clemson. As for him returning to Buffalo, that's about as likely as me suiting up in place of Allen this Sunday. Chances are slim and none and slim just left town. It has been well documented that by Whailey giving up so much for Watkins at the draft, it put unfair expectations on him. There has been discussion about Watkins work ethic and the organizations concern, especially regarding his rehab. : http://www.nfl.com/videos/buffalo-bills/0ap3000000828588/Why-did-the-Bills-trade-Sammy-Watkins . Sammy isn't the first player the Bills have drafted that struggled with the fans: https://nypost.com/2015/10/28/bills-sammy-watkins-blasts-loser-fans-doubting-his-health/ . I wish him well and hope he does great things during his time in the league. But he won't ever again be in a Bills uniform and I am perfectly ok with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Um.....no. He has had his chances. Couldn't get it done under excellent circumstances in LA and KC. Let some other team waste their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Scammy Dropkins? Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: His career with KC has been a disappointment. He's making good money, they just extended Hill and will have other big contracts coming up. They also need to put some money towards the defense. They are projected to be 25th in salary cap room next year. Watkins looks like he may not make it to 2020 with the Chiefs and will be a FA. Here's an interesting sub topic conversation in this thread....is Sammy Watkins a bust? Since he left Buffalo, his numbers have declined. In the last 3 years, he's averaging about 40 catches a year, 550 yards receiving and 5 TD catches. He was the #4 overall pick, played in the two most high powered passing offenses.... https://kckingdom.com/2019/10/23/kc-chiefs-salary-cap-crunch-lead-tough-decisions-offseason/ The most obvious opportunity to create cap space is the oft injured receiver Sammy Watkins. His contract calls for him to have a $21 million cap number with $7 million guaranteed, so a release will generate for the Chiefs $14 million in cap space. Considering the number of games Watkins has missed since he arrived in Kansas City for the 2018 season, it’s hard to imagine, under any circumstance him returning after the 2019 season concludes. How much are you willing to pay him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I am not against it completely but I assume he would cost too much for his availability of 3 games a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Nope. Guy was a bum here, is a bum on an offense where he should dominate. He's Mike Williams (OT) bust bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I wouldn’t want him back even at the vet minimum. He’s just not that good. We seen the best he has to offer and it’s really not that good. If we are talking last years team with a green quarterback and young receivers who can’t make plays yet sure, this current squad of winning football players who give 110% every play. No thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hell no. Sammy isnt dedicated to football. Tons of talent but minimal production Let some other sucker team continue to pay this guy top 10 wr money while he produces like a teams #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said: How much are you willing to pay him? I really don’t want him. I had to meet my thread quota of one a month. If we were to pay him...2 years 10 million. Edited December 4, 2019 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I really don’t want him. I had to meet my thread quota of one a month. If we were to pay him...2 years 10 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 No. If two successive offensive head coaches dont want to keep him on their team, his prospects look dim indeed. Given that McBeane highly value Availability, I doubt he gets a sniff in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It’s not your money...it’s mine. I can afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Why not? If a deal and no risk contract bring him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He'll sign somewhere but it wouldn't be in Buffalo. I do think that some team has the opportunity to get a good deal on him — a humbled Watkins, if healthy, could be great in the right situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He's played for Sean McVay and Andy Reid but who would have thought his best years would be in the ground and pound Rex Ryan offense with Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: He's played for Sean McVay and Andy Reid but who would have thought his best years would be in the ground and pound Rex Ryan offense with Bills? Maybe he reunites with Greg Roman in Baltimore. Edit — Now that I'm thinking of Roman, I wonder if Tyrod could return to Baltimore as QB2 next season if he doesn't get a shot with LAC or if Lynn is fired. Ravens currently have RG3 at QB2 which, I would not want Griffin to play for any amount of time were Jackson to miss any games. Imagine this, Roman coached Kaep to a Super Bowl... if he were to land with any NFL team, why not Baltimore? Edited December 4, 2019 by GregPersons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I always thought Watkins was super-talented, that 1000 yard year he had with Tyrod wasn't too shabby. That said, I think he's just a lazy guy who doesn't put the work in like you need to for true greatness. I'd say with all his injuries and the lack of production in one of the best offenses in the league it's a hard pass!! I am still crying and ashamed that we gave up 2 first round picks for him... Honestly that sort of sealed whaley and co's fate if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 No. Need healthy WRs and hes not great anyway. 14 hours ago, Logic said: I don't think McDermott wants Watkins anywhere near the Bills. I think that McDermott got one whiff of Watkins and his "I'm a four dimensional lizard god and we're all a homogenous field of vibrating energy" schtick and said "Nooooope" and promptly traded him away. As just a player? Sure. But I don't think his personality/mindset fits what Buffalo's got going on right now. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 14 hours ago, Utah John said: It was only last year, when he was lighting it up, that I heard one commentator say he was the best WR in the NFL. When exactly was THIS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheWoodshed Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 No I would not like to see him back. He's had availability issues ever since his rookie year in the preseason with the rib injury. Plus I think he lacks the proper attitude to play on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 16 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: No, unless he agreed to a Percy Harvin contract. He's an injured mess. I can't see him rebooting his career. No on Watkins. Percy w Bills is a good comparison. Just like Harvin, he cant stay healthy on the field. The problem isn’t the contract. The problem is wasting a spot on the 53 man roster for a guy who you never know will be ready week to week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: I am still crying and ashamed that we gave up 2 first round picks for him... Honestly that sort of sealed whaley and co's fate if you ask me. 2 - 1 = 1 Bills gave up 2 and got one back (the one they used on Watkins). Net: They gave up 1 first round pick. Your point is still 100% valid. Total waste. If you give up a #1, your job is on the line if he doesn't work out. To be fair, he was the best decoy ever! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Statistically he'd be the #3 WR here, let that sink in. He's probably NE bound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Y'all are crazy if you think a talent like him is coming back to backwards Buffalo. Y'all go back to working Y'alls little jobs the rest of y'alls lives. Y'all want a response, here go one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 If he wasn't a culture and process guy 2-3 years ago, what makes you think he'd all of a sudden become one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 NOPE !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Not worth the money. Has a ton of talent but can not stay on the field enough to merit the salary he will demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No. Need healthy WRs and hes not great anyway. ??? Check his Twitter timeline. He has some.....interesting beliefs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 22 hours ago, teef said: he's just not dependable enough for the money he makes. even with a reasonable salary i'm not sure he can be counted on. What if he promised that he’d stay healthy? Like really promised. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: What if he promised that he’d stay healthy? Like really promised. does he still think my job is little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: What if he promised that he’d stay healthy? Like really promised. Maybe if he pinky-swore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Only way I’d want him back is if he signed a dirt-cheap contract and then got cut before Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, teef said: does he still think my job is little? Do you work Fridays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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