Denver Post: Shaq Lawson confronts Connor McGovern on the field after Bills’ blowout of Broncos

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

This isn’t a ringing endorsement as a McD process kinda guy. It’ll be interesting to see how they approach re-signing him

This^^ not impressing his boss so much with that level of behavior, frankly, doesn’t matter what was said during the game, he made himself look like an azs, jmo.

 

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Don Otreply

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Where did I say that I’m concerned? I’m saying that this isn’t how McDermott’s guys typically act. Shaq talks a lot of trash and got into a fight last year. Just play the game and shut the hell up especially after the game (and after you win)

I’m sure Sean quickly praised Shaq In the locker room for talking trash after the game

In that fight last year Fournette threw a punch at Shaq. Oh, it's on after that.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

This^^ not impressing his boss so much with that level of behavior, frankly, doesn’t matter what was said during the game, he made himself look like an azs.  

Really? In today's NFL, guys celebrate sacks with chest pounding celebrations often when down by 21 points. When you see the mic'd up segments the players are frequently talking back and forth. 

 

The only issue with Shaq's performance should be that his choreography channeled some alternate version of Irish step dancing, it was like watching a scene from  "Riverdance" with not an Irishman in sight. McDermott is likely furious or touched by the tribute. Maybe both. 

[ndirish1978]

Lot of overly sensitive and judgmental people in this thread...

[Billzgobowlin]

1 hour ago, ALLEN1QB said:

This kind of behavior I really dislike and is uncalled for once the game is over let it go don't be a jerk.  How about go up to the guy shake his hand and say have a happy Thanksgiving or something. Geeeez

I understand what you are saying but it is no fun being bullied.

[CLTbills]

1 hour ago, ALF said:

I just hope they can re-sign Shaq 

I don't know man. I don't know that one year of great production after 3 years of mediocrity is worthy of what he's going to want to get paid. 

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Where did I say that I’m concerned? I’m saying that this isn’t how McDermott’s guys typically act. Shaq talks a lot of trash and got into a fight last year. Just play the game and shut the hell up especially after the game (and after you win)

I’m sure Sean quickly praised Shaq In the locker room for talking trash after the game

What's wrong with telling a person to respect my game and my name?? A lot of the greats talk/talked smack during/after game. His smack talk didn't influence the game at all, I doubt he'll get disciplined/counciled for it

[stony]

12 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

This^^ not impressing his boss so much with that level of behavior, frankly, doesn’t matter what was said during the game, he made himself look like an azs, jmo.

 

 

IDK, McD (allegedly) rag-dolled a reporter. He probably gave Shaq an atta boy and a junk tap. 

[Don Otreply]

2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Really? In today's NFL, guys celebrate sacks with chest pounding celebrations often when down by 21 points. When you see the mic'd up segments the players are frequently talking back and forth. 

 

The only issue with Shaq's performance should be that his choreography channeled some alternate version of Irish step dancing, it was like watching a scene from  "Riverdance" with not an Irishman in sight. McDermott is likely furious or touched by the tribute. Maybe both. 

Like I said, jmo. He acted butt hurt, which is never a good look, especially after a win. I like your sense of humor, the river dance celebration was...., well..., as the French say, I do not know what...

[Big Turk]

I think it speaks volumes about Lawson that he is one of the only holdover draft picks from the Whaley era. He put his head down and has worked hard and its starting to really pay off. Dude has really come on this year and even when he isn't getting sacks has been noticeably disruptive.

 

I hope the Bills find a way to keep him but some team might be willing to overpay for him...

[JinxedBill]

Talk smack get slapped.  Some of y’all seemed to have never played any sports....

[Don Otreply]

2 minutes ago, stony said:

IDK, McD (allegedly) rag-dolled a reporter. He probably gave Shaq an atta boy and a junk tap. 

Different circumstances, acting all butt hurt after a win, now that’s pretty damn pathetic imo.

[Luka]

It's about time we're good enough that someone on OUR team is talking ***** for once.

[zow2]

Shaq is a loose cannon. I’m sure he is the biggest trash talker of them all out there. But hey, I don’t mind his swag and bravado this year. The D probably needs someone like him right now and he’s playing with a chip on his shoulder. Will that act stand up 2-3 years from now? Probably not. But for now I’m ok with it as long as he doesn’t get 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalties 

[fishgrappler]

1 hour ago, ALLEN1QB said:

This kind of behavior I really dislike and is uncalled for once the game is over let it go don't be a jerk.  How about go up to the guy shake his hand and say have a happy Thanksgiving or something. Geeeez

It’s part of being a true competitor. He didn’t say anything obnoxious. It’s important to take a stand at times.

8 minutes ago, JinxedBill said:

Talk smack get slapped.  Some of y’all seemed to have never played any sports....

They just weren’t good enough to teach others to shut their mouth!!! 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

 

 

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — After the Bills demolished the Broncos 20-3 on Sunday, Buffalo defensive end Shaq Lawson didn’t leave the field without reminding Denver center Connor McGovern about the outcome.

Lawson, who had two sacks and two tackles for loss, found McGovern during the postgame handshake and confronted the offensive lineman.

“You’ll remember my name,” Lawson aggressively told McGovern as Bills center Mitch Morse stepped between the two. “I got two sacks on (you).”

Lawson later told Buffalo reporters that the Broncos were “talking junk” earlier in the game at New Era Field.

 

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/11/25/bills-shaq-lawson-confronts-broncos-connor-mcgovern/

 

 

Some stuff about this in the GDT including links to a different article

Edit: if people think specific football topics touched on in the general GDT deserve a break out thread, that's probably fine.  It's the general multiple "my personal take on the Bills"  or "my personal take on Player A" threads without a lot of substance to the OP that we try to limit

 

[Codyny13]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

Meh. Doesn’t really matter, but I prefer to let winning do the talking. This just demonstrates that whatever he said on the field actually got under Shaq’s Skin.

Seems to have lit a fire under him. Whatever works, as long as you don’t swing helmets and play dirty. ??‍♂️

[Dirtyd415]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

I’m sure Sean quickly praised Shaq In the locker room for talking trash after the game

Ehhh, probably wasn’t too quick, I’m sure he waited until after his speech and whatnot ?.  But honestly I’d wager the conversation went something like “way to play today Shaq, you showed restraint during the game. Now let’s just work on letting that trash talk roll off you like water off a ducks back”. Can we agree his actions are an improvement over previous years when he would have picked up a few personal fouls in game?

[Uncle Joe]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

I haven’t seen anybody say they’re bothered by trash talking going on during the game. It’s the fact that it usually ends after the game is over unless you want to look like an amateur who’s never been there before by saying “I got 2 sacks on you!” 

It's not the you problem that is an issue. It's the when he brought McGovern's mother into the trash talking it didn't show much class.

[Dablitzkrieg]

There was absolutely nothing wrong with it.  It was even family friendly.  No cussing, no punches. Just a friendly introduction to who he was?

3 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

It's not the you problem that is an issue. It's the when he brought McGovern's mother into the trash talking it didn't show much class.

Interesting.  I didn't hear any yo mama references

[T master]

2 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:

This kind of behavior I really dislike and is uncalled for once the game is over let it go don't be a jerk.  How about go up to the guy shake his hand and say have a happy Thanksgiving or something. Geeeez

 

I'm with you & if McD heard of it that could be a part of the reason we may not see him here next year, I think McD would like his players to rise above things such as this & be the character players he is trying to bring here which could also be a reason why he didn't use the 5th year option on Shaq !! 

[Dablitzkrieg]

My goodness, there really are a lot of pansies here.  Have any of you complaining ever competed in anything?  It comes with the territory

[uticaclub]

2 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said:

This isn’t a ringing endorsement as a McD process kinda guy. It’ll be interesting to see how they approach re-signing him

He’s our best pass rusher and it’s not even close. You need a couple of guys that are going to mix it up

[Uncle Joe]

10 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

There was absolutely nothing wrong with it.  It was even family friendly.  No cussing, no punches. Just a friendly introduction to who he was?

Interesting.  I didn't hear any yo mama references

Pretty sure when I saw the clip on my phone last night he ended it by calling him a m********r and then some Bills escorted him away from McGovern.

 

edit: after watching the video below #60 steps in between Shaq and McGovern after the  *bleep*... *bleep* reference

Edited November 25, 2019 by Uncle Joe
clarification

[Aireskoi]

 

[Shooter McGavin]

12 minutes ago, Aireskoi said:

 

Classy! Shaq has always shown great self-control. He’s playing well but should stop acting like he’s a 10 time pro-bowler. He really showed that 5th round lineman nobody has ever heard of who the real man is. Morse tried to stop the embarrassment from continuing 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Shooter McGavin

[Victory Formation]

It will be interesting to see what we do. Beane has a track record of not overpaying for players. It will all depend on how Shaq finishes out the season. If he finishes with 8 or more sacks I think Buffalo will move to re-sign him long term. I think it would be wise to let Murphy go and to extend Lawson but he must finish strong. 

[Doc]

11 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Classy! Shaq has always shown great self-control. He’s playing well but should stop acting like he’s a 10 time pro-bowler. He really showed that 5th round lineman nobody has ever heard of who the real man is. 

 

Same goes for Connor McGovern (who?).

[Lurker]

14 minutes ago, T master said:

 

I'm with you & if McD heard of it that could be a part of the reason we may not see him here next year, I think McD would like his players to rise above things such as this & be the character players he is trying to bring here which could also be a reason why he didn't use the 5th year option on Shaq !! 

 

Lol.    This board's a constant source of humor.

 

McBeane threw down the gantlet with Lawson and made it a "prove it" year for him.   So far, he has.     If you think McDermott wants a team full of alter boys, IMO, you are sadly mistaken...

[Freddie's Dead]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

let the bodies hit the floor

 

Herewego, herewego, herewego...

[Dablitzkrieg]

28 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

Pretty sure when I saw the clip on my phone last night he ended it by calling him a m********r and then some Bills escorted him away from McGovern.

 

edit: after watching the video below #60 steps in between Shaq and McGovern after the  *bleep*... *bleep* reference

Yep, I was wrong.  He said some bad words.  Oh well

[r00tabaga]

He played awesome yesterday. 

McD probably hates this kinda press but Shaq is producing this year. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

3 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I am shocked, just shocked. Who would have guessed, trash talk before and after an NFL game ??

 

What will the children think....?

 

Dunno. As I get older & older, I seem to ‘get off my lawn’ resent this shite more & more. 
 

I was watching all the early games at the bar and some clown from the Raiders, got up to do a sack dance! You know, as his clown team was being beatch slapped 3-33, by the J*E*T*S?????

 

On the day that the record was surpassed,

ACT like the dude who went to the End Zone 90+ times, with breathtaking, personal efforts and simply handed the ball to the Ref!

Act like Barry Sanders!

Act like you’ve already won the SB MANY times!

Act like you’ve been there, before!

 

[US Egg]

A whole lot of nothing.

 

Boys being boys.

 

Being 8-3 is the story.

 

[Captain_Quint]

He had a hit on Allen yesterday (and Allen did complete it for like 15 yds) that set the tone for the D. It was a perfect midsection spear that took the wind out of Allen.

 

Totally legal, but he hit him as hard as I've seen Shaq hit someone. He played lights out yesterday.  

[TigerJ]

I guess he's always been a trash talker.  So is McGovern.  They have a bit of a history, and McGovern allegedly started it before the game.  Trash talking certainly is not my style, but I don't think it's a big deal.  I don't expect it will affect Lawson's future status with the team or his relationship with McDermott unless it escalates a lot more than it has.

[CookieG]

46 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Classy! Shaq has always shown great self-control. He’s playing well but should stop acting like he’s a 10 time pro-bowler. He really showed that 5th round lineman nobody has ever heard of who the real man is. Morse tried to stop the embarrassment from continuing 

Eh, I don't mind him giving back to someone who was taking a shot at him pre-game.

 

On the other hand, afterward, I would have rather heard something like this:

 

"My job on the two sacks was about as easy as a lineman could hope. I wasn't blocked on either sack, all I had to do was chase the QB. The props go to the coaching, the scheme and my teammates who created the situation for me to go in untouched. "

(Yeah, I know, that sounds boring).

 

They mentioned in the game yesterday that something like 16 different players on the Bills have a sack this season. That's a pretty incredible figure, considering they only have 32. (actually that's a good figure.).

 

In many, many cases, they are scheming pass rushers open. A number of Phillips' sacks came from a stunt or a twist where he went in untouched. In this season, more than others, sacks are a product of scheme as much as individual effort.

 

[Alphadawg7]

Not sure what I loved more...Shaqs performance, Shaqs post game trash talk, or the funny but overly stiff reactions from the no fun police in this thread.  
 

Thought his post game trash talk was great and warranted.  
 

Go Shaq, Go Bills

[Not at the table Karlos]

3 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Where did I say that I’m concerned? I’m saying that this isn’t how McDermott’s guys typically act. Shaq talks a lot of trash and got into a fight last year. Just play the game and shut the hell up especially after the game (and after you win)

I’m sure Sean quickly praised Shaq In the locker room for talking trash after the game

I’m sure shaq praised McDermott after he tore into a reporter. 

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2018/11/26/sean-mcdermott-says-shaq-lawson-was-defending-himself-buffalo-bills-jacksonville-jaguars-brawl-leonard-fournette/amp/

 

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos

[papazoid]

4 hours ago, eee1776 said:

Don't care what he does as long as he can keep Trent Murphy off the field.

 

boom