Protocal69 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/20/backhanded-compliment-broncos-chris-harris-bills-josh-allen-justin-simmons/ Looks like Broncos CB Chris Harris is a non believer of Josh Allen talent. If I can give him a little… I don’t want to actually,” Harris curiously said with a grin and chuckle. “I’m going to say all positive about him today.” An oft-made comparison with Allen is the one made to quarterback Cam Newton. The Panthers quarterback is out this year, but the Broncos beat Newton in the Super Bowl during his MVP season. Harris was part of that team. But that comparison is rubbish, says Harris. The defensive back admitted he thought Newton was “real” while Allen is not. “No [he’s not similar to Newton]. (Allen) can run, though,” said Harris. “Other than that, he’s not really like Cam. They might do a quarterback draw-designed run, but Cam was for real. “(The Panthers) had designed runs like Lamar Jackson for him because he was so elusive with the real run plays that they had for him,” Harris added. From there, Harris concluded his press conference with one more “I’m going to keep it positive on Josh Allen.” I guess we will see Sunday is Josh is real or not. Edited November 21, 2019 by Protocal69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 How did that type of trash talk work out for Jalen Ramsey last year? 3 3 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: How did that type of trash talk work out for Jalen Ramsey last year? Allen was 8-19 passing for 160 yards and 75 came on one play. Not exactly like Allen was carving him up. but why players say anything before games is beyond me. What Allen has been really good about is not responding and just playing the game. We are a better team than Denver so just win as a team. The worse thing Allen could do is go in full gunslinger mode and try to win the game himself, which might be what Harris is trying to get him to do. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Sunday is gonna be... 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 literally no idea who he is nor do I care. I'm sure we'll see him get smoked by Smoke on a few occasions on Sunday. RIP Christy Harris . 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: This is already being discussed in Broncos/bills thread Who gives a s***? Not everyone takes the time to keep up with a 15 page thread. I like things like this to have their own, otherwise i might have missed it. Activate Duke and give him a shot to Moss Harris! 7 2 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I'd design QB a run play to isolate Harris one on one with Josh and tell him to lower the shoulder and steamroll him. I don't care if it doesn't gain yards. It sends the right message and sets the right tempo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Josh should have a lot of success on the ground. Expect a lot of Man with multiple blitz concepts. 100+yds rushing 2 TDs 14-10 Good Guys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Conlan58 said: Who gives a ****? Not everyone takes the time to keep up with a 15 page thread. I like things like this to have their own, otherwise i might have missed it. The board owner does set policy against duplicate threads, and the mods try to enforce it, so whether or not you like it, I guess we give a *****. It's a judgement call whether something that's discussed in the main game thread merits its own, and in this case with threads about Roman for HC, Lamar Jackson, Brady's hate for the Cowboys, Gronk, and AB on the first page, I think more Bills-Broncos discussion is all to the good. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I always confuse Chris Harris with Chris Watson (former Bronco and Bill), who was infamously our “punt catcher.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Allen was 8-19 passing for 160 yards and 75 came on one play. Not exactly like Allen was carving him up. but why players say anything before games is beyond me. What Allen has been really good about is not responding and just playing the game. We are a better team than Denver so just win as a team. The worse thing Allen could do is go in full gunslinger mode and try to win the game himself, which might be what Harris is trying to get him to do. Allen running carved them up tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 People talk silly when their team is 3-7 now lets make them 3-8. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Allen running carved them up tho... Agreed. 13 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: People talk silly when their team is 3-7 now lets make them 3-8. I mean I think it’s stupid but honestly, what does he have to lose? He’s a good player on a crappy team. Probably just wants the season to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Guess Chris is in need of some attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Guess Chris is in need of some attention. Good. Send the gal with the vacuum wand to ‘get medieval on his buttocks’. ? * (It worked for CK!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Protocal69 said: I guess we will see Sunday is Josh is real or not. You don't find that out or prove it in one game. It's a long process. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob's House said: I'd design QB a run play to isolate Harris one on one with Josh and tell him to lower the shoulder and steamroll him. I don't care if it doesn't gain yards. It sends the right message and sets the right tempo. I never understood why teams didn’t run at “Primetime” all day long. He admittedly hated tackling. Seemed like a great way to wear him down and shut him up too. 39 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Agreed. I mean I think it’s stupid but honestly, what does he have to lose? He’s a good player on a crappy team. Probably just wants the season to end. Most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Agreed. I mean I think it’s stupid but honestly, what does he have to lose? He’s a good player on a crappy team. Probably just wants the season to end. Nothing really- not like it is a finable offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Lol. A player who cant get traded off a garbage team no matter how hard he tries. K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Bobby Hooks said: Are you seriously still not understanding? If you want to keep discussing, pm me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Codyny13 said: If you want to keep discussing, pm me. This. Let's stick to the football topic in the thread, folks. If any of you go seeking your "meta discussion" posts back-and-forth and they've disappeared, that would be why Appreciate the concern, but don't shadow-mod please 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 This is an interesting thread topic. I for one hope that this goes the way that it did for the Jags after Jalen's comments. Josh does seem to be ultra motivated when he gets a little ticked off. Thanks for this easily found interesting information, OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 So he is not going to say anything bad except he isn't real like Cam Newton? I would say Harris isn't real like Tre White but I won't say anything negative.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 If that's trash talk--it's pretty lame. Mainly said that Josh Allen isn't Cam Newton in his prime---which should be overwhelmingly obvious to anyone at this point. I don't get why this is even a thing--these comments by Harris. Pretty soft stuff. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I don't see this as trash talk, Cam was phenomenal in that SB year both passing and on the ground, Allen isn't there yet but I have no doubt he will be but I don't see Cam Newton i see Big Ben with a touch of Favre's gunslinger mentality imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Agree that he may just be trying to bait him. Denver is a loss away from full dumpster fire mode and need all the help they can get right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Seems pretty minor, Why do people on the internet get all worked up over nothing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, matter2003 said: How did that type of trash talk work out for Jalen Ramsey last year? 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Allen was 8-19 passing for 160 yards and 75 came on one play. Not exactly like Allen was carving him up. but why players say anything before games is beyond me. What Allen has been really good about is not responding and just playing the game. We are a better team than Denver so just win as a team. The worse thing Allen could do is go in full gunslinger mode and try to win the game himself, which might be what Harris is trying to get him to do. Yeah... Allen didn't really prove Jalen Ramsey wrong or anything, so not sure what that's about. C.Biscuit is right though, Josh has been good at just ignoring that outside chatter & just playing the game. Harris would probably be happy if Allen started chunking up passes left & right, but that hasn't really been one of his strengths. Just take what the defense gives him, hope the run game steps up, and don't turn the ball over. I'm sure Allen will look to run a decent amount, so here's hoping he's learned to hang onto the football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 A Win is all we care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: You don't find that out or prove it in one game. It's a long process. True. But it would be fun if Allen juked him a couple times and made him miss. He seems to see Allen as a “tuck it and truck it” runner (which he can be) and was trying to make a contrast between him and Lamar Jackson’s more cut-on-dime RB-like skills. He seems to be trying to say that Cam was more towards the Lamar side of running skills. But I think he may under-rate Allen’s elusiveness as a runner. I also think what he didn’t say was probably gonna be something to the effect that Allen should stay home and not run on them because if they got the chance, they were gonna make Allen cough up the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Plano said: literally no idea who he is nor do I care. I'm sure we'll see him get smoked by Smoke on a few occasions on Sunday. RIP Christy Harris . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Yeah... Allen didn't really prove Jalen Ramsey wrong or anything, so not sure what that's about. C.Biscuit is right though, Josh has been good at just ignoring that outside chatter & just playing the game. Harris would probably be happy if Allen started chunking up passes left & right, but that hasn't really been one of his strengths. Just take what the defense gives him, hope the run game steps up, and don't turn the ball over. I'm sure Allen will look to run a decent amount, so here's hoping he's learned to hang onto the football. Allen kicked the Jags ass...with that amazing throw to Foster and then with his legs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobby Hooks said: This is an interesting thread topic. I for one hope that this goes the way that it did for the Jags after Jalen's comments. Josh does seem to be ultra motivated when he gets a little ticked off. Thanks for this easily found interesting information, OP! Yeah just roll over so we can tickle your belly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It's true you know, he's really not like Cam. Josh goes after his fumbles. Superbowl or not. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Allen was 8-19 passing for 160 yards and 75 came on one play. Not exactly like Allen was carving him up. but why players say anything before games is beyond me. What Allen has been really good about is not responding and just playing the game. We are a better team than Denver so just win as a team. The worse thing Allen could do is go in full gunslinger mode and try to win the game himself, which might be what Harris is trying to get him to do. Josh also had 13 carries for 99 yards and a TD. The point is don't woof and lose. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Kind of click bait He also said he is solid and a really good QB It's all weekday filler anyways Edited November 21, 2019 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I saw the clip and thought the takeaway was that Harris stopped himself from giving 17 advice as they're playing this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoBills33 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Cams second Year stats (full 16 games) Comp %: 57.7 Yards: 3869 TDs: 19 Int: 12 Rating: 86.2 Rushing Yards:741 TDs: 8 Avg: 5.8 --------------------------------- Allens second year stats to date (10 games) Comp %: 60.3 Yards: 2175 TDs: 13 Int: 7 Rating: 85.4 Rushing Yards:331 TDs: 7 Avg: 4.5 ---------------------- If he were to continue trending this way Allen would end up with tis for the year. Passing Yards: 3480 TDs: 21 Int: 11 Rushing Yards 529 TDs: 11 Pair similar stats with that fact they are both big bodied QBs that are hard to tackle, and have big sometimes inaccurate Arms I think the comparison is fair. You cant just go compare Allen to Cams 1 MVP season, thats just silly. Maybe he does compare better to Roethlisberger, but I have heard people compare him to Cam also. Edited November 21, 2019 by PoBills33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 21 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: You don't find that out or prove it in one game. It's a long process. I know ,just trying to be sarcastic based upon what Harris said about Cam being “REAL" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Yeah, It’s always a smart idea to insult the other team’s QB in the week leading up to a game.... lol. Thanks for the bulletin board material Chris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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