Big Turk Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Not sure how they come up with this stuff...Bills D isn't the same without Milano in there... https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-week-11-pff-refocused-buffalo-bills-37-miami-dolphins-20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I stopped at PFF. 7 6 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: I stopped at PFF. I wonder when Demetress Bell is eligible for PFF’s NFL Hall of Fame. He’s a first-ballot inductee for sure. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: I wonder when Demetress Bell is eligible for PFF’s NFL Hall of Fame. He’s a first-ballot inductee for sure. That site is such trash, yet people keep referencing it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 He struggled after the hamstring but looked back vs Miami. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: That site is such trash, yet people keep referencing it. It can't be that trashy many NFL teams use their data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Milano was Beast on Sunday. I promise they gave Allen poor marks too. I refuse to visit their trash site. Even when they gave Oliver praise. They use waaaay too much "judgement" on what they think is accurate. Any of us can look at All22 and do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He struggled after the hamstring but looked back vs Miami. This. Whether PFF said it or not, Milano has been inconsistent since he broke his leg late last year. He’s been a ghost in too many games this year which is unusual for him since he’s usually around the ball. I love the guy, and when he’s on he is a HUGE part of this defense. A difference maker. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He struggled after the hamstring but looked back vs Miami. This. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I stopped at PFF. Can't stand those effin dorks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, TheProcess said: This. Whether PFF said it or not, Milano has been inconsistent since he broke his leg late last year. He’s been a ghost in too many games this year which is unusual for him since he’s usually around the ball. I love the guy, and when he’s on he is a HUGE part of this defense. A difference maker. I actually think Milano is the big reason our run defense fell apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I stopped at PFF. isn't the the sound of a fart? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, TheProcess said: This. Whether PFF said it or not, Milano has been inconsistent since he broke his leg late last year. He’s been a ghost in too many games this year which is unusual for him since he’s usually around the ball. I love the guy, and when he’s on he is a HUGE part of this defense. A difference maker. I disagree. He's been having a very good year. He had one down game right after he came back from injury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, TheProcess said: This. Whether PFF said it or not, Milano has been inconsistent since he broke his leg late last year. He’s been a ghost in too many games this year which is unusual for him since he’s usually around the ball. I love the guy, and when he’s on he is a HUGE part of this defense. A difference maker. Agree. Yesterday was the first time this season I thought we got the best of Matt Milano. And I am a huge fan of his too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisker A Tasker Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: That site is such trash, yet people keep referencing it. I reference them when when they support my arguments. Otherwise, I dislike them. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Not sure how they come up with this stuff...Bills D isn't the same without Milano in there... https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-week-11-pff-refocused-buffalo-bills-37-miami-dolphins-20 In Fairness he has struggled compared to how h was last year, however I also do not think he was fully healthy from the 2018 injury or the Hammy, seems like last couple weeks he sure is looking like he is fully healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 such metrics!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 weeks in a row I've been getting FAT eating these whenever his name has been called \ 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I stopped at PFF. You know what PFF is short for? Pffffft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I actually think Milano is the big reason our run defense fell apart. because of his play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, matter2003 said: It can't be that trashy many NFL teams use their data I remember seeing/reading somewhere that NFL teams don't use their metrics (which are completely arbitrary) that they publish to the public, but the film cut-ups/raw data that they input into their own analysis to reduce the man hours to analyze film 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: because of his play? Run defense is a team effort, but yes, I thought his play was the most egregious during that span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) I agree with PFF he's really struggled at times. Milano, Edmunds, and Oliver have all been bad vs. the run this year. Thankfully we didn't have to worry about that vs. Miami but it's going to get tougher pretty soon vs. teams like Dallas and Baltimore. Hopefully those guys can step up. Edited November 18, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Yea that’s why you gotta use data and watch the game/film. Both can be misleading in their own at times. Much better when used in concert with one another to come to a better conclusion about s players performance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: isn't the the sound of a fart? Not mine! ? nevermind... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, Chandler#81 said: Not mine! ? nevermind... Might be fine lol Whoops my bad wrote that at first too funny too delete. Might be mine I mean lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 he wasnt the same guy earlier but he is looking like his old self now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I actually think Milano is the big reason our run defense fell apart. He was getting swallowed up a lot, and not covering his gaps in the zone scheme. I get that our d-line needs to prevent clean guys getting through but if he doesn't attack the gap then he's not even muddying it up and letting the guy get to the 2nd level really easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Milano is struggling to fall out of Pro Bowl contention. He really needs to crap out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: It can't be that trashy many NFL teams use their data @$&€ PFF 4 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Milano is struggling to fall out of Pro Bowl contention. He really needs to crap out. How dare he for a 5th round pick not to be in the conversation for the pro bowl ??? Everyone in the scouting department needs to go plain & simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, dneveu said: He was getting swallowed up a lot, and not covering his gaps in the zone scheme. I get that our d-line needs to prevent clean guys getting through but if he doesn't attack the gap then he's not even muddying it up and letting the guy get to the 2nd level really easily. True and Edmunds too has been very inconsistent getting off blocks but I agree with those who say he has not been 100% physically. When on his game he's clearly playing at a high level and doing exactly what's expected of him in this defence. Plus he's a natural playmaker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, starrymessenger said: True and Edmunds too has been very inconsistent getting off blocks but I agree with those who say he has not been 100% physically. When on his game he's clearly playing at a high level and doing exactly what's expected of him in this defence. Plus he's a natural playmaker. he was late a few times in coverage this week - but maybe he didnt break it up... he was laying lumber all day tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Putin said: @$&€ PFF How dare he for a 5th round pick not to be in the conversation for the pro bowl ??? Everyone in the scouting department needs to go plain & simple Well in all honesty I don't think his season justifies that accolade so far but I don't think he's been totally right physically either. When he's on he looks really good to me so if he can play with more consistency I could see him receiving that consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: I stopped at PFF. Pretty much, This. 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: It can't be that trashy many NFL teams use their data The data the NFL teams use is not the rankings they provide to the public. It's more hard data like snap counts for different players in different situations, situational data, stuff like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Two comments: 1) After mid-season poor performances, the Bills came on strong the last two seasons. Let's hope they can do the same this season. Miami is not a good team, but we played them much better than the 1st time and this one was in their house. Perhaps the Cleveland game was our wakeup call. 2) Milano's injury last year was pretty severe and I was surprised how quickly he came back to playing full-time. I don't think he missed any offseason work, training camp, etc. When you combine last year's injury, with this year's, it's likely he hasn't been 100% in quite a while. Maybe he is finally getting back to 100% at the right time. Weak opponent aside, Milano looked much faster yesterday than he has looked all season, and I don't think he's been too bad this season. He's a very good player and a huge part of our defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 He balled out last week tho. Good enough for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 His ballerina type pirouette, near interception for a TD was a thing of beauty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Every time you hear something from PFF, just remember they work for Chris Collinsworth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Very much emblematic of the entire defense this year, Milano has been inconsistent, excellent in spurts, makes highlight reel plays, is out of position and gap read often, gives up plays, and then is quite good in the red zone. He has had some good games overall but not consistent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 He's inconsistent. I'm not sure he's struggling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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