Steelers Browns: who should get suspended and how long?

[hemma]

Be interesting to see if the Cleveland DA brings assault charges.

I didn't sleep anywhere near a Holiday Inn last night, but I think the DA can do that regardless of Rudolph's decision.

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Rest of season and must meet with commissioner to get reinstated for 2020. NFLPA gets it reduced to just rest of season.

[Wo-Bah]

I know I am late, but this MF'er should be arrested for assault (it's probable already been said upthread).  It's players and actions like this, that are driving me away from the NFL. 

[DefenseWins]

Rest of the season at a minimum.

[NoSaint]

11 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

Black guy hitting White guy with helmet in the head. No wonder Cleveland police was there. (sarcasm)

 

Truth be told for anyone to hit any guy especially a guy coming off of concussion in the head with a helmet deserves a year suspension. Wonder if Garrett hit Rudolph in the temple. That could have killed him. Anything less than a year then that would set a bad precedent that your helmet can be used as a form of a weapon. 
 

I know it won’t happen but they should fine Freddie Kitchens a game for making lite of what Garrett did to Rudolph. 

 

I don’t think other players see 6 games instead of 16 and think to themselves “oh shoot you mean I can start hitting guys with their own helmet?!?”

 

I suspect rest of the season but would be fine with longer too though.

[dorquemada]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

The real question should be: what will his sentence be for assault and battery? 

 

I'm still working through this thread but if the NFL doesn't act swiftly and harshly I'd expect the Cleveland DA to level charges.  It would be the height of hypocrisy if they don't because there's a ton of guys sitting in the pokey in Cleveland for lesser offenses and it would be a real bad idea to set a precedent that this sort of behavior is acceptable.

[Dablitzkrieg]

I think Haynesworth got 5 games for the head stomp, so I'm guessing 6

[4_kidd_4]

Void the contract and blackballed.

 

Show some stones NFL.

 

[Chaos]

Just now, dorquemada said:

 

I'm still working through this thread but if the NFL doesn't act swiftly and harshly I'd expect the Cleveland DA to level charges.  It would be the height of hypocrisy if they don't because there's a ton of guys sitting in the pokey in Cleveland for lesser offenses and it would be a real bad idea to set a precedent that this sort of behavior is acceptable.

If they game had been in Pittsburgh this very well could happen.  In Cleveland the prosecuting attorney is an elected position.  And the forces of democracy would be outraged if he was arrested and removed from the Browns.  If he was a scrub, he might be made an example of. But don't see it happening for a star play. 

[jimmy10]

20 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Rudolph was the aggressor in normal football pile pushing and pulling. Garrett then escalated it to a different level, a level I have never seen. The closest is when Albert Haynesworth stepped on a guys head who had lost his helmet (he received 5 games). The fact that it was a glancing blow was fortunate as he had a Steeler lineman holding him back so he could not get a good swing. This will be minimum 5 games and I would suspect a 6 game suspension which will not be reduced (plenty of time for some real clubbing).

 

As for the baseball analogy with the pitcher throwing toward the head of the batter .. a couple simple differences 1) The batter is wearing a helmet. 2) the batter is looking for the ball because pitchers throw the ball toward the area where the batter is standing .. kinda part of the game. A better analogy would be the the batter says something to the catcher that he doesn't like and the catcher gets up, rips off the batter's helmet and clubs the batter with it.

 

 

I say it’s more like ripping the bat out of a batters hands and hitting him with it, or ripping a skate off a hockey player and going after him with the blade. Taking the most dangerous piece of equipment away from a player and literally weaponize it against him. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

I watched it a few times. initially you can see as they're wrestling around rudolph pulling on garrets helmet and that must of really ignited him and it was on.

 

garrett should be banned from ever seeing another snap in the nfl. rudolph should see at least two games and the linemen fines.

 

if they do anything other then that, the nfl is really ***** up!

[MrEpsYtown]

I think it needs to go into next year. Probably the rest of this year and half of next year. I also think the guy needs to get another chance. He has no history of any kind of incident like this and it is clear that he lost his cool in the moment. While what he did his horrible and really dumb, I don't think he should be banned for life. Just my 2 cents. 

 

I will also just mention that the NFL is full of it. They will promote the Browns-Steelers rematch like crazy and probably flex the damn game.  

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I think it needs to go into next year. Probably the rest of this year and half of next year. I also think the guy needs to get another chance. He has no history of any kind of incident like this and it is clear that he lost his cool in the moment. While what he did his horrible and really dumb, I don't think he should be banned for life. Just my 2 cents. 

 

I will also just mention that the NFL is full of it. They will promote the Browns-Steelers rematch like crazy and probably flex the damn game.  

 

[HOUSE]

HE SHOULD BE FORCED TO REMAIN IN CLEVELAND FOR LIFE

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2019 by HOUSE

[Chaos]

3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I think it needs to go into next year. Probably the rest of this year and half of next year. I also think the guy needs to get another chance. He has no history of any kind of incident like this and it is clear that he lost his cool in the moment. While what he did his horrible and really dumb, I don't think he should be banned for life. Just my 2 cents. 

 

I will also just mention that the NFL is full of it. They will promote the Browns-Steelers rematch like crazy and probably flex the damn game.  

There are many people in prison for losing their cool in the moment.  It is 100% certain that Garrett and the other Brown head hunters knew Rudolph had a significant concussion earlier this year.  Garrets losing his "cool in the moment' could very easily have ended Rudolph's career.   A year of lost salary to think about that might not be in appropriate. 

[Romie]

If you get 4 games for deflating footballs and not cooperating with the investigation, you should get about 20 games for trying to kill a guy

[Luka]

Rudolph 2 games, Garret 1 year minimum and assault charges should be brought up. Remember when Gronk tried to kill Tre? NFL Can't let this kind of thing continue to escalate.

[Wayne Arnold]

20 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said:

I know I am late, but this MF'er should be arrested for assault (it's probable already been said upthread).  It's players and actions like this, that are driving me away from the NFL. 

 

Don’t be such a creampuff.

 

Rudolph was going after Garrett and Garrett was acting in self-defense. And hit Rudolph with the soft part of the helmet.

[YoloinOhio]

33 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

Black guy hitting White guy with helmet in the head. No wonder Cleveland police was there. (sarcasm)

 

Truth be told for anyone to hit any guy especially a guy coming off of concussion in the head with a helmet deserves a year suspension. Wonder if Garrett hit Rudolph in the temple. That could have killed him. Anything less than a year then that would set a bad precedent that your helmet can be used as a form of a weapon. 
 

I know it won’t happen but they should fine Freddie Kitchens a game for making lite of what Garrett did to Rudolph. 

 

So Freddie is very very bad at this 

[Dopey]

As big and strong as he is, that is a potentially lethal blow. Seriously. A season off sounds about right.

16 games. The remainder of the season plus 10 games next year, minimum.

Then, #65 acts like a punk azz and knocks Rudolph down from behind. He should get 2-3 games and a hefty fine too.

[Billsatlastin2018]

4 is reasonable.

 

Knowing that, the League might try 6 to get the 4 on Appeal.

[Chuck Wagon]

Marty McSorley was the first thing I thought.  Granted, he didn't connect the way McSorley did, but the intent was the same.  McSorley got a year ban (which ultimately ended his career) and faced assault charges, he avoided jail time but got 18 months of probation, that was in Canada though.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

The rest of the season for sure.  
 

 

Can they press for criminal charges????

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

Don’t be such a creampuff.

 

Rudolph was going after Garrett and Garrett was acting in self-defense. And hit Rudolph with the soft part of the helmet.

what an idiotic post. idiotic. 

[Chaos]

5 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Don’t be such a creampuff.

 

Rudolph was going after Garrett and Garrett was acting in self-defense. And hit Rudolph with the soft part of the helmet.

What weapon was Rudolph using? 

[row_33]

Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said:

The rest of the season for sure.  
 

 

Can they press for criminal charges????

they can press, it hadn’t gone anywhere in pro sports but settlements have occurred in amateur sports 

[CLTbills]

He's done until next August.

[Dopey]

8 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

HE SHOULD BE FORCED TO REMAIN IN CLEVELAND FOR LIFE

 

 

 

I spent a weekend in Cleveland. Once. Dead man's curve is awesome. A buddy says let's go to a strip club. Against my better judgement, I went. Dark, Sticky floors(hopefully liquor), coke(not the soda) everywhere and midget strippers. How do you do a lap dance as a midget stripper, you might ask? I picked her up and put her on my lap. Asking to pay 1/2 price didn't go too well. Ahh, the 90's.  

[Chuck Wagon]

6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Don’t be such a creampuff.

 

Rudolph was going after Garrett and Garrett was acting in self-defense. And hit Rudolph with the soft part of the helmet.

 

 

Garrett took Rudolph down unnecessarily on the the last (or second to last) play of the game with a 2 score lead, which I imagine led to Rudolph "starting" it.  Rudolph initiated no contact with Garrett.  Making him the instigator as a way to brush off Garrett's actions is reckless and foolish.

[Rick 'r Mortis]

If Rudolph decides to file charges would that impact the NFL's decision going forward?

I say 1 year.

[Just Jack]

It should be for the rest of the season. And instead of just sitting at home, he should be made to do some service. Like washing the jock straps of every NFL player, by hand, no machines, after a long, sweaty, workout. 

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Don’t be such a creampuff.

 

Rudolph was going after Garrett and Garrett was acting in self-defense. And hit Rudolph with the soft part of the helmet.

lol.  There you go.  
Even the “soft” helmet to the head is warranted?

 

come in man. 

[SoCal Deek]

I didn’t watch the end of the game so I had no idea what this thread was about. Having just watched the video....Garrett needs to be immediately suspended for the remainder of the season. No question....done!

However...since I’ve not been impressed with a single thing the Commissioner has ever done...I’m guessing they’ll just move Garrett to the Patriots and call it square!

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

14 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Don’t be such a creampuff.

 

Rudolph was going after Garrett and Garrett was acting in self-defense. And hit Rudolph with the soft part of the helmet.

 

Yep, fool status confirmed on WA.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

12 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

4 is reasonable.

 

Knowing that, the League might try 6 to get the 4 on Appeal.

Nope the shield ? can’t be too lenient here. 
 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

8 for garret, 1 for pouncey, 1 for kitchens

[Rick 'r Mortis]

14 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Don’t be such a creampuff.

 

Rudolph was going after Garrett and Garrett was acting in self-defense. And hit Rudolph with the soft part of the helmet.

You're pretty dense, huh?

Which player assaulted the other?

Also, do you know what self-defense means?

One more thing, how long have you been buddies with Garrett?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

What's your viewpoint?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The NFL is so bizarre and unpredictable with stuff like this.

 

I am going to say four games. It should be the rest of the season. They will screw it up some way. There is zero excuse for it, and it really could have injured Rudolph badly.

 

What say you?

 

LAMP-y of me but I started a poll thread.  I'd like to merge this with it but we'll see, polls and merge don't play well together

[Tatonka68]

Rest of the YEAR. Clevelend is a dirty team.