Coach55 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The ref's let us get away with one. On the prior play, there was a defensive pass interference non-call against John Brown. McDermott threw the challenge flag to get it reviewed. If you watch the highlights of the play, at the 37 second mark you see McDermott picking up the flag about a second into the play. The ref should have blown the play dead before the play ever went off. They discussed it afterward, but let it stand. https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019102701/2019/REG8/eagles@bills?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019102701 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Coach55 said: The ref's let us get away with one. On the prior play, there was a defensive pass interference non-call against John Brown. McDermott threw the challenge flag to get it reviewed. If you watch the highlights of the play, at the 37 second mark you see McDermott picking up the flag about a second into the play. The ref should have blown the play dead before the play ever went off. They discussed it afterward, but let it stand. https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019102701/2019/REG8/eagles@bills?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019102701 The refs said that he threw the challenge flag after the ball was snapped. I was at the game today and didn’t think that was true, but that’s what the ref said at the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, DCOrange said: The refs said that he threw the challenge flag after the ball was snapped. I was at the game today and didn’t think that was true, but that’s what the ref said at the game. From my seats I saw him throw the flag prior to the snap (it was pretty close, and he picked it back up quickly). Very, very fortunate the refs didn't notice and blow the play dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I was wondering what happened there. I saw McDermott pick up the flag after Singletary ran by. It almost looked like he accidentally dropped it. oh well. If that play ended up being an incomplete pass, then it would have cut against the Bills. Just one of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: McDermott should let Leslie handle the challenges and he can take over as DC..... guy is a disaster in challenges. Makes me wonder.. Has McD ever won a challenge? Seems like he loses every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: From my seats I saw him throw the flag prior to the snap (it was pretty close, and he picked it back up quickly). Very, very fortunate the refs didn't notice and blow the play dead Yeah that’s what I thought too. I was so certain it wasn’t going to count that I just looked down in disappointment the moment I realized Singletary was going to score because I knew it wouldn’t count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) Outcoached BIGTIME today. Edited October 28, 2019 by ALLEN1QB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: Makes me wonder.. Has McD ever won a challenge? Seems like he loses every time. Hard to tell, he claps either way. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Why would he challenge pass interference? They arent over turning these calls, McDermott is clueless if he is actually still trying this. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: McDermott should let Leslie handle the challenges and he can take over as DC..... guy is a disaster in challenges. 90% of pi challenges are not overturned. Call it the good ole boys ref club telling the league f- you. Thank goodness they ignored his challenge. And yes his challenge track record is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 44 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: McDermott should let Leslie handle the challenges and he can take over as DC..... guy is a disaster in challenges. McD was 1 of 12 in challenges entering this game with 11 straight upheld. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/McDeSe0.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 lol...that would've been so Billsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Milano got held on Sanders 65 yard touchdown run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Milano got held on Sanders 65 yard touchdown run I saw tons of holding not being called. Adding insult to injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Did the eagles punt returner lose control of the ball before he hit the ground? They didn’t show many replay angles and the ones we saw looked like he was down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 As I've said elsewhere, McD was a *****in' disaster during the Eagles game. We got bailed out by the refs, because no way would they have overturned that non-PI call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The only coach in the NFL worse at challenges is that Larry the Cable guy clown in Cleveland. Not good company there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Did the eagles punt returner lose control of the ball before he hit the ground? They didn’t show many replay angles and the ones we saw looked like he was down. Yeah, it was pretty clear on replay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Did the eagles punt returner lose control of the ball before he hit the ground? They didn’t show many replay angles and the ones we saw looked like he was down. yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Did the eagles punt returner lose control of the ball before he hit the ground? They didn’t show many replay angles and the ones we saw looked like he was down. Yeah this was the other one. They showed two angles at the game and both looked like the ball might have started to come loose on the way down but definitely didn't come out until after he was down. My cousin was watching at home and said it couldn't have been a more obvious fumble based on what they showed at home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Coach55 said: The ref's let us get away with one. On the prior play, there was a defensive pass interference non-call against John Brown. McDermott threw the challenge flag to get it reviewed. If you watch the highlights of the play, at the 37 second mark you see McDermott picking up the flag about a second into the play. The ref should have blown the play dead before the play ever went off. They discussed it afterward, but let it stand. https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019102701/2019/REG8/eagles@bills?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019102701 Don't give a ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, LeGOATski said: I saw tons of holding not being called. Adding insult to injury. I saw jersey's being pulled left and right. Two plays where Edmunds was held his shoulder pad was folded up against the side of his helmet. It was pretty ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Coach55 said: The ref's let us get away with one. On the prior play, there was a defensive pass interference non-call against John Brown. McDermott threw the challenge flag to get it reviewed. If you watch the highlights of the play, at the 37 second mark you see McDermott picking up the flag about a second into the play. The ref should have blown the play dead before the play ever went off. They discussed it afterward, but let it stand. https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019102701/2019/REG8/eagles@bills?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019102701 Why is he throwing a challenge flag for PI? Haven't coaches realized this isn't getting overturned based on previous ones yet?? The league has let egregious PI calls or noncalls stand all year...McDermott got a break on the Jets getting called for OPI in the first game that wiped out a TD but I'm trying to think of another call or noncall thaylt got overturned or reversed and i cannot. Edited October 28, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 But it did. "Shouldn't" have means absolutely nothing in the NFL. If we're going to play that game, then we "shouldn't have" lost to NE because we gave up a blocked punt. This crap is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Woulda Coulda TOUCHDOWN baby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Fine then! As you wish, 31-7! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 It was weird cause they didn't mention it on the broadcast and I believe that was the one where the red just came out and said they wouldn't be reviewing it and no one seemed to know why or what he was talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: It was weird cause they didn't mention it on the broadcast and I believe that was the one where the red just came out and said they wouldn't be reviewing it and no one seemed to know why or what he was talking about The Play will Not Be Reviewed .. whatever the hell that meant. So yes the Refs knew something .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Did the eagles punt returner lose control of the ball before he hit the ground? They didn’t show many replay angles and the ones we saw looked like he was down. He did when they replayed from the front it was clear. I don't blame the refs for this one as most calls looked legit but of course every game has a call or two that can be questioned that were made and weren't. We simply lost because we got outplayed. The Josh fumble and big run to start the 2nd half is what did us in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 They made an announcement at the stadium that it was thrown after the snap and thats why the play stood. They never showed a video though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: The Play will Not Be Reviewed .. whatever the hell that meant. So yes the Refs knew something .. Yeah, I thought for some odd reason they weren't going to review the TD (which I believe all scores are reviewed automatically). This would explain it that they are saying the play will not be reviewed based on the challenge flag being thrown . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 11 hours ago, wagon127 said: Why would he challenge pass interference? They arent over turning these calls, McDermott is clueless if he is actually still trying this. The DB was blatantly holding Browns arm. Not allowing him to come back to the ball. its a crap shoot if they overturned it, but it was clear PI. One of the rhings that greatly shift the dynamic of the game is how they decide to call or not call PI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The DB was blatantly holding Browns arm. Not allowing him to come back to the ball. its a crap shoot if they overturned it, but it was clear PI. One of the rhings that greatly shift the dynamic of the game is how they decide to call or not call PI. it's irrelevant how blatantly obvious it is. Referee's are NOT overturning pass interference calls on the field. They are clearly protesting this rule change, and unless it is something as terrible as what happened in the NFC championship game, McDermott should keep his red flag in his pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 12 hours ago, wagon127 said: Why would he challenge pass interference? They arent over turning these calls, McDermott is clueless if he is actually still trying this. yeah, I though I heard on the game last night that Collingsworth said PI challenges are 0-26 so far this season....I admittedly was half listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) It does look like from the angle and perspective in this video that he threw the flag as the ball was being snapped. Close though... Edited October 31, 2019 by One Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/27/2019 at 9:35 PM, Coach55 said: The ref's let us get away with one. On the prior play, there was a defensive pass interference non-call against John Brown. McDermott threw the challenge flag to get it reviewed. If you watch the highlights of the play, at the 37 second mark you see McDermott picking up the flag about a second into the play. The ref should have blown the play dead before the play ever went off. They discussed it afterward, but let it stand. https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019102701/2019/REG8/eagles@bills?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019102701 Thank God the Bills did a helluva job making sure that it didn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin C Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Pederson should have thrown the challenge flag to challenge that McDermott threw the challenge flag before the play. First ever challenge of a challenge flag in NFL history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/28/2019 at 10:04 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The DB was blatantly holding Browns arm. Not allowing him to come back to the ball. its a crap shoot if they overturned it, but it was clear PI. One of the rhings that greatly shift the dynamic of the game is how they decide to call or not call PI. How long is it going to take McDermott to realize that the league will not overturn pass interference penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/27/2019 at 9:38 PM, ScottLaw said: McDermott should let Leslie handle the challenges and he can take over as DC..... guy is a disaster in challenges. I don’t know about that. He’s a solid 1 out of 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 49 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: How long is it going to take McDermott to realize that the league will not overturn pass interference penalties? They've overturned at least 7 out of 31 I saw somewhere. I agree is low probability but that game was slipping away. I get the indecision and I get the point that it’s most Likely a lost timeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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