GreggTX Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Personally, I think our HC has some weaknesses in his game management skills, but he has gotten better. As a leader, however, I think he has been excellent. He's got these players ready to run through walls for him. How would you grade him overall as a HC? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Gave him an A. He has the team at 4-1. Allen hasn’t hit his stride yet. The sky is the limit when you have 53 guys going in the same direction. Good job coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halloween Land Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 A-, Great first year to end the drought. Last year did suck but we had a lack of talent and this year, so far so good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I would like to understand the F other than trolling. Can you show the user names of the votes? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Gave him an A. He's a good coach whom the players seem to love and rally around. He has built a culture here like no other. Whenever you can get everyone to buy into what it is you are selling then the chance for positive results increases by leaps and bounds. He's a coach who gets his guys to buy in. He does have a lapse here or there with a challenge flag or a timeout or clock management, but he has gotten better in all of those regards since year one. He and Beane have basically built this team from the ground up in three years. They have done an amazing job. Can't wait to see where we are at by year 5. 4 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I would like to understand the F other than trolling. Can you show the user names of the votes? Probably a lurking Jets or Pats fan on the board. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 at 4-1 the Defense gets a A+++++++++ at 4-1 the Offense gets a C. A - 11 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I would like to understand the F other than trolling. Can you show the user names of the votes? Yes. There is an option to make the results Public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Since Coach McDermott became head coach of the Bills, I don't know that there is another coach in the league that has gotten more out of his players than him. While we haven't won a playoff game (yet!), we went to the playoffs at 9-7 with a team in his first year that, talent-wise, had no business being anywhere near that mark, and the same can be said for last year. The fact that THAT group last year won six games is a huge testament to McDermott and his staff. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 He’s done a phenomenal job with the defense. The offense still needs some work. Overall I’d give him a B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I gave him an A- I feel like he has done a great job rebuilding this team and having them play as a team. There are some gamefay flaws imo like bad challenges, taking foot off gas, and things like that I feel he can improve upon. id actually like to rank him higher but then there would be nowhere to move up if he becomes a continual contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I give him a A. When I look at some of the clown show dysfunctions in the nfl (I think for a period we fell In that category with coaching changes every other year.. Rex ) it finally feels nice to have some stability. Sean was very respected when being named For head coached material. hes very respected throughout the league. Him and Beane have a vision and into year 3 we are starting to see the results. The playoffs was a nice surprise year one and some people pissed on year two. It was a necessary to clean the dead weight and continue to shape their vision. I had no problem with taking a step back to further where they wanted the team to be. He doesn’t do everything right, makes mistakes, but i think he really does try to learn from his mistakes and holds accountable as he he does his players. I sometimes think he wants his guys to succeed so much and invested into them and it takes longer to pull the plug. Like why not Duke sooner over Zay? But players play for him and if they don’t want to buy in, their out. some laugh about the term process and culture but I tend to believe it’s huge from an organizational standpoint. my buddy is a pats fan (I’m ashamed to know him) but he constantly tells me how at least Buffalo finally seems to have blueprint of how they want to shape a team. We may not be where we all want to be .. yet.. but any team that plays us is should be in for a four quarter game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I gave him an A- I feel like he has done a great job rebuilding this team and having them play as a team. There are some gamefay flaws imo like bad challenges, taking foot off gas, and things like that I feel he can improve upon. id actually like to rank him higher but then there would be nowhere to move up if he becomes a continual contender. COTY!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 i'd put him in the b to b+ range right now. it just depends how this year finishes out. if the bills get into the playoffs this year, that will be 2 out of his first 3 years here he's done it, (i'm a wizard at math...i know) and for a bills coach, that's phenomenal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Just Joshin' said: I would like to understand the F other than trolling. Can you show the user names of the votes? You can guess among 4. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 B+. He'd get an A if he didn't clap so damn much. J/K. He could make some better decisions on challenges and time mgmt. He has done a wonderful job compared to the last bunch of turds the Bills have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Who's the jabroni who put "F" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I’m looking at all 3 years. B+.... great job great job making the playoffs after gutting talent in 17. Great job finishing 4-2 that year after it looked like a mid season implosion would derail us. Great job keeping the team competitive with a rookie qb last year working through cap hell. Great start to the season and bounce back from an emotional pats loss. .... and then there’s all the peterman stuff. Which is nearly unforgivable. so B+ it is. 2 minutes ago, teef said: i'd put him in the b to b+ range right now. it just depends how this year finishes out. if the bills get into the playoffs this year, that will be 2 out of his first 3 years here he's done it, (i'm a wizard at math...i know) and for a bills coach, that's phenomenal. I would guess 2 out of 3 years is in the top end of the league in general over that span. There is so much parity and turnover.We’ll have to wait and see but I’d guesss no more than 10-12 teams will have gone 2 out of the last 3 years. .... and ya if he pulls it off and we are grading on a bills curve it’s an A++++++ ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 B+ Defense has performed well, but the development of Josh Allen has been tepid and lackluster at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 He gets an A from me. Big picture he (along with Beane) has turned a dumpster fire into a machine that is gaining traction. We have been the wasteland that no one wants to talk about or play for for a very long time. He has brought respect both off and on the field. The wins are only just beginning as we see the lasting effects of the culture change he has instilled in Buffalo. Sure there are decisions and points to pick at on the micro level, but you will have that with anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sunshower said: B+ Defense has performed well, but the development of Josh Allen has been tepid and lackluster at best. Defense has been LIGHTS OUT we held patriots****** offense that’s DESTROYING EVERYBODY to 9 total points , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Putin said: Defense has been LIGHTS OUT we held patriots****** offense that’s DESTROYING EVERYBODY to 9 total points , Yes, but Allen has a 5:7 TD:INT ratio. That needs to be way better for long term success. The current structure of winning is unsustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sunshower said: Yes, but Allen has a 5:7 TD:INT ratio. That needs to be way better for long term success. The current structure of winning is unsustainable. How so? I would argue this is better than outscoring everyone. The defense isnt forcing a bunch of turnovers and if Josh can cut down on his, this team will be really sound and mistake free. Hard to beat a team that doesnt beat themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: I’m looking at all 3 years. B+.... great job great job making the playoffs after gutting talent in 17. Great job finishing 4-2 that year after it looked like a mid season implosion would derail us. Great job keeping the team competitive with a rookie qb last year working through cap hell. Great start to the season and bounce back from an emotional pats loss. .... and then there’s all the peterman stuff. Which is nearly unforgivable. so B+ it is. I would guess 2 out of 3 years is in the top end of the league in general over that span. There is so much parity and turnover.We’ll have to wait and see but I’d guesss no more than 10-12 teams will have gone 2 out of the last 3 years. .... and ya if he pulls it off and we are grading on a bills curve it’s an A++++++ ? there is a definite bills curve involved here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: Personally, I think our HC has some weaknesses in his game management skills, but he has gotten better. As a leader, however, I think he has been excellent. He's got these players ready to run through walls for him. How would you grade him overall as a HC? I give McDermott an A right now based on what he is doing. We are really starting to see all of the elements of team work and discipline come in to play. McDermott is getting the very best out of the players that he has with excellent results. This process will elevate even further with additional talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 A+ look at what we are comparing him too. Rex, Chan (I liked him), Juron, murlarky, Greg Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Who’s the moron on here that voted F???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: How so? I would argue this is better than outscoring everyone. The defense isnt forcing a bunch of turnovers and if Josh can cut down on his, this team will be really sound and mistake free. Hard to beat a team that doesnt beat themselves How so? I just think Josh needs to generate more points and limit the turnovers. In no way am I calling him a bust, I just need to see him take care of the football and grow into his own more. We need a 2:1 TD:INT ratio to push deep into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I voted A. He's the person most directly responsible for building a strong culture and team chemistry that this franchise has lacked since the SB era. Since McD arrived, our team consistently pulls out a win or two in games that we have no business winning, which reflects well on the coach. He needs better game-day management to move up to an A+, but that's a relatively small part of his job compared to the other big-picture stuff. 52 minutes ago, Sunshower said: Defense has performed well, but the development of Josh Allen has been tepid and lackluster at best. Heading into the draft, I was led to believe that Josh Allen was a super-raw prospect from a third tier program who would need to learn the game from the sideline. Nearly everybody agreed that he shouldn't see the field during his first year, and many argued that he would need to sit and watch for two seasons before being ready for game action. With that as our starting point, Josh Allen's development has come along much faster than expected. He's not there yet, but he's in his second year and he's clearly on the right trajectory. Not much more you can ask of a coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Went B+ for a few reasons. Timeout and challenge management has been a general weakness. Although he is not the GM, he has been loyal to a fault to some of "his players". Also if I voted A there isnt much room for improvement and hes still a little green and will hopefully improve. Edit: also who the ? voted F lol lingering Pat's fan Edited October 17, 2019 by BillsShredder83 Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) clearly deserves an A PROS: his leadership is outstanding, his players play hard and unlike the last guy he's not a blowhard. CONS: his success at challenges suck. i'd like to see less penalties. his incessant clapping at bad outcomes bugs me....but yet it may be a defense mechanism that says to his team...put that behind us, get ready for the next play. both mcclappity and beane deserve and will get new 5 year deals. how refreshing for our franchise that stabilty will finally be ours Edited October 17, 2019 by papazoid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 SM is showing himself to be the best coach this team has had in some time, as SM would himself say, there is always room for improvement, I gave him an A thus far. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Given the talent of the roster, I give him an A+. Not trying to be negative, I love this team, but even our defense doesn't have one single stud. You could argue Jerry, or Tre, or even Micah, and they are certainly a talented group, but what they are achieving is incredible. Then look at the offense. Again, I love our team, but Brown and Beasley as your top receivers isn't inspiring. They are both super solid in their roles, but neither is exceptional. Gore is a legend, but not a true #1 stud anymore. And the O-line is a good solid group, but no real stars. Essentially he's taken a group of men, a very deep and solid group, and turned them into a TEAM. If Beane can sprinkle in one or two top tier talents to complement this group, we may be looking at a true contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I voted B- Positives: He clearly motivates the players and has them playing hard His defense is championship caliber We made the playoffs 4-1 start this season Negatives: The Offense has never been better than mediocre during his tenure He stated Peterman (multiple times) and thought it was okay to go into a season with a QB depth of Peterman, Allen (some of that is on Beane) Terrible with challenges Poor clock management and situational awareness (looking at you, decision to punt in the Colts snow game) Lot of reasons to be excited, but I'm not even going to consider moving him into the "A" range until we win some playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 My A- is due to the fact he never shows his hand. I get it, and I respect the hell out of it. I just want more insight. In this regard -and ONLY this regard, I miss Rex. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 When you're comparing him to previous Bills head coaches, he would get an A+. Compared to head coaches from around the NFL, I think he would get a B+. He gets the most out of his players and they seem to respect him. The defense is obviously stellar. However, he is awful at challenges and his timeout usage leaves a lot to be desired. I also wish he was a bit more aggressive at certain points - example: earlier this year (can't remember which game) we got the ball back with 1+ minute in the 2nd quarter and two timeouts. We sat on the ball and went to the locker room. Why not at least try to move the ball and get into FG range? Needless to say, I'm happy he's our HC and I think the team is in good hands with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: My A- is due to the fact he never shows his hand. I get it, and I respect the hell out of it. I just want more insight. In this regard -and ONLY this regard, I miss Rex. Rex showed his hand, his wife’s feet, and an ineptitude the likes of which we’ve never seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, stevestojan said: Rex showed his hand, his wife’s feet, and an ineptitude the likes of which we’ve never seen. He gave daily medical updates beyond “yeah, I’m not really sure. Haven’t talked to the trainers or medical staff”. He gave insights on games just played including key plays & players, unlike “well, I’ll have to look at the film tomorrow”. Of course he’s a clown. But I looked forward to his pressers. Sean hasn’t uttered a word worth quoting. Again, it’s the best way for a coach to act. It’s just boring as hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 B. That'll go up when Allen improves from being the third lowest rated quarterback in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfball323 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 You have to consider his conservatism and challenge record (1 for 12) in this. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Zaso Art Designs said: A-, Great first year to end the drought. Last year did suck but we had a lack of talent and this year, so far so good. So you are taking points off the HC because of the lack of talent we had last year. Last year was always going to be a down year where we freed up money so we could bring in the right players that fit our culture. This year we are a playoff team, next year we are a contender. I remember the train wreck this team was after the Ryan brothers, it's remarkable what's happened in under 3 years. Solid A+ from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, TOboy said: Given the talent of the roster, I give him an A+. Not trying to be negative, I love this team, but even our defense doesn't have one single stud. You could argue Jerry, or Tre, or even Micah, and they are certainly a talented group, but what they are achieving is incredible. Then look at the offense. Again, I love our team, but Brown and Beasley as your top receivers isn't inspiring. They are both super solid in their roles, but neither is exceptional. Gore is a legend, but not a true #1 stud anymore. And the O-line is a good solid group, but no real stars. Essentially he's taken a group of men, a very deep and solid group, and turned them into a TEAM. If Beane can sprinkle in one or two top tier talents to complement this group, we may be looking at a true contender. You forgot our middle LB IMHO he’s A STUD And if none of our guys on defense make the Probowl this year it will be a travesty GO BILLS !!! Edited October 17, 2019 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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