HOUSE Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green has yet to play a game this season due to an ankle injury. But the injury hasn't prevented Green's name from being tossed into the mix with the trade deadline looming. Bengals coach Zac Taylor, however, provided a definitive answer regarding the trade speculation Thursday. "I've heard the speculation. We are not trading that guy," Taylor said, per The Athletic's Paul Dehner Jr. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001064156/article/zac-taylor-on-aj-green-we-are-not-trading-that-guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I kind of hope he stays in Cincinnati. Same thing with Larry Fitzgerald I think some guys are just icons to that City. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Vote of confidence kiss of death. 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 This is why I always ask the question in "trade for THIS guy" posts: "Why do you think THIS guy is available?" Everyone wants to trade for elite players, but elite players are almost never up for trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 Maybe we can get Zay Jones back 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I’m sure if the Pats offered a 1st they would take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Coach speak and nothing more. If the right deal comes, I’d wager their GM goes for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Well, if I know anything about coach speak, Greens definitely being traded by the deadline. I guess Cincinnati is sick of being low balled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 Next UP Odell Beckham https://heavy.com/sports/2019/10/browns-odell-beckham-trade-colin-cowherd/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, MJS said: This is why I always ask the question in "trade for THIS guy" posts: "Why do you think THIS guy is available?" Everyone wants to trade for elite players, but elite players are almost never up for trade. AND......why do we think the professional FO would want the same guys us sofa GM’s think are “the answer”? I don’t think our GM will fall for a “big name”, but rather go for talent and value. Can you find both in the same player? Sure, sometimes, but not all that often. That’s why it’s a hard job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Is Kupp elite? Is McCaffrey elite? Is Kuechly? Everybody seems to think they aren't future Hall of Famers except me... Elite players usually end up in the HoF. Now that McCafe has exploded this season everybody will be trying to lick his jockstrap with me, but I remember a great amount of disconcern with him being drafted high. I remember disconcern about his race even, which I know nobody will admit. Point is if almost everybody won't admit to these players being elite then why the laughing when I suggest a trade for them. I've heard everything from Kuechly is white to he is finished from concussions... well shouldn't we be getting him for a conditional 7th? Exactly, everybody thinks I'm psychotic when I jest(but would cream my shorts) about a trade for said players but I'm just echoing the sentiment of the masses technically, because they believe said players aren't worth a damn. Remember, I am speaking in generalities, so to those that agree, I love you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: AND......why do we think the professional FO would want the same guys us sofa GM’s think are “the answer”? I don’t think our GM will fall for a “big name”, but rather go for talent and value. Can you find both in the same player? Sure, sometimes, but not all that often. That’s why it’s a hard job. Well if Kyle Allen didn't ruin our great run at McCafe and Kuechly we would be sitting pretty. J/K that's what McCaffrey does, if only he had a few down games and Panthers decided to tank. There is always hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, MJS said: This is why I always ask the question in "trade for THIS guy" posts: "Why do you think THIS guy is available?" Everyone wants to trade for elite players, but elite players are almost never up for trade. Not only does everyone want to trade for elite players, but everyone thinks elite players should be available for half a used hotdog and a bag of stale donuts. No one looks at it from the perspective that generally, if a team is trading an elite player, they need to have a motivation that makes sense for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Not only does everyone want to trade for elite players, but everyone thinks elite players should be available for half a used hotdog and a bag of stale donuts. Well Duhhhhhh.... half a hotdog is obviously too much, let me get it down to a quarter of a dog that isn't a Sahlen's and no bun or condiments and now we are talking! Well if Ballpark will do for McJordan then we should have a load of talented players, right? Edited October 10, 2019 by Sherlock Holmes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Next UP Odell Beckham https://heavy.com/sports/2019/10/browns-odell-beckham-trade-colin-cowherd/ Wonder which poster will be the first to start the "Trade for OBJ" thread chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 41 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green has yet to play a game this season due to an ankle injury. But the injury hasn't prevented Green's name from being tossed into the mix with the trade deadline looming. Bengals coach Zac Taylor, however, provided a definitive answer regarding the trade speculation Thursday. "I've heard the speculation. We are not trading that guy," Taylor said, per The Athletic's Paul Dehner Jr. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001064156/article/zac-taylor-on-aj-green-we-are-not-trading-that-guy I seem to recall Beane and McDermott echoing the same comment about Shady last Spring.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 39 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Not only does everyone want to trade for elite players, but everyone thinks elite players should be available for half a used hotdog and a bag of stale donuts. No one looks at it from the perspective that generally, if a team is trading an elite player, they need to have a motivation that makes sense for them. Golly. A half used hot dog. I don't want to even go there.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 As great as Green is, it seems like he's always injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: I seem to recall Beane and McDermott echoing the same comment about Shady last Spring.... and Zay is a young guy that still needs to grow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 52 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Well Duhhhhhh.... half a hotdog is obviously too much, let me get it down to a quarter of a dog that isn't a Sahlen's and no bun or condiments and now we are talking! Well if Ballpark will do for McJordan then we should have a load of talented players, right? You're confusing half of a used hotdog with half a hotdog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: I’m sure if the Pats offered a 1st they would take it. Is think they’d rather the dolphins 1 than the patriots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Also Zac Taylor: "He wasn't touched down!! It's a safety! Rrrreeeeeeeeemyeyesarebleeding!!!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: This is why I always ask the question in "trade for THIS guy" posts: "Why do you think THIS guy is available?" Everyone wants to trade for elite players, but elite players are almost never up for trade. You just ruined 75% of the people on here’s day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: As great as Green is, it seems like he's always injured. I would love to see him as a Bill. Problem is, get him for a playoff run and he gets injured again...then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 The only time I think "oh...I really wish we had this guy". Is during the draft. Once the games begin and the season starts I focus on our roster and what talent we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Then you are back to what you have now. Which isn't good but Green gives you a formidable WR corps. Right now, it's a pretty below average unit. I like Green, and yes the wr corp is a little light. It has taken several games for the problem to reveal itself. If not Green, I don't know anyone else that Beane would realistically target. Lets see how this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green has yet to play a game this season due to an ankle injury. But the injury hasn't prevented Green's name from being tossed into the mix with the trade deadline looming. Bengals coach Zac Taylor, however, provided a definitive answer regarding the trade speculation Thursday. "I've heard the speculation. We are not trading that guy," Taylor said, per The Athletic's Paul Dehner Jr. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001064156/article/zac-taylor-on-aj-green-we-are-not-trading-that-guy Blah blah blah, never trading a guy until he gets traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green has yet to play a game this season due to an ankle injury. But the injury hasn't prevented Green's name from being tossed into the mix with the trade deadline looming. Bengals coach Zac Taylor, however, provided a definitive answer regarding the trade speculation Thursday. "I've heard the speculation. We are not trading that guy," Taylor said, per The Athletic's Paul Dehner Jr. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001064156/article/zac-taylor-on-aj-green-we-are-not-trading-that-guy Didn't the Giants say that about OBJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) It's not likely to matter anyway. They've made their goals clear. Those goals are not "getting as good as possible this year and maximizing our chances." They are building a team that can compete at the highest level consistently. That would just not likely include bringing in a guy who's approaching the end of his career and will cost a ton. The guy is 31 and he'll be expensive. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/a.j.-green-7719/# I wouldn't be surprised either way, if he gets traded or not. But I'd be quite surprised if he's traded to Buffalo. I'd expect WR to be one of their priorities again in the offseason. Edited October 11, 2019 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 41 minutes ago, MJS said: This is why I always ask the question in "trade for THIS guy" posts: "Why do you think THIS guy is available?" Everyone wants to trade for elite players, but elite players are almost never up for trade. It seems to be happening more and more recently though (OBJ, Mack, Tunsil, AB, Cooper, Clowney) so I can see why there's more and more interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, White Linen said: You're confusing half of a used hotdog with half a hotdog. I should've known better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Love Schitt’s Creek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Love Schitt’s Creek. I'm a big fan of several of the people in it but couldn't get through the first two or three episodes. Did you find it slow to start and it got better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I'm a big fan of several of the people in it but couldn't get through the first two or three episodes. Did you find it slow to start and it got better? It gets great imo. I can imagine people needing to watch numerous episodes before liking it a lot because most of the best humor comes out of character and knowing how they are, like Seinfeld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Nick Saban: “I’m not not going to be the Alabama coach.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: It seems to be happening more and more recently though (OBJ, Mack, Tunsil, AB, Cooper, Clowney) so I can see why there's more and more interest. OBJ has always been a head case and a distraction, but yes he's elite (or at least was). Mack was the dumbest move ever. Can't expect trades like that. Everyone thought that was a terrible move. Tunsil is not elite by any means. He's an above average player and that's all. AB crazied himself out of the league. Cooper I wouldn't say is elite. He's had 3 straight years under 800 yards receiving. Clowney is the best case for a potentially elite player being traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: OBJ has always been a head case and a distraction, but yes he's elite (or at least was). Mack was the dumbest move ever. Can't expect trades like that. Everyone thought that was a terrible move. Tunsil is not elite by any means. He's an above average player and that's all. AB crazied himself out of the league. Cooper I wouldn't say is elite. He's had 3 straight years under 800 yards receiving. Clowney is the best case for a potentially elite player being traded. Fine. Very good to elite players are being traded at an increasing rate. Teams are getting more creative with the cap to add players for a playoff run and disgruntled quality players are becoming more willing to force their way out (see M. Fitzpatrick). Last year you had Ha Ha Clinton Dix, Cooper, Tate, Hyde, Fowler Jr., and Apple get moved to playoff contenders. I could easily see Ramsey, T. Williams, Diggs, Green, and E. Sanders get moved before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, MJS said: This is why I always ask the question in "trade for THIS guy" posts: "Why do you think THIS guy is available?" Everyone wants to trade for elite players, but elite players are almost never up for trade. Because posters have been playing Madden for 15 years now and they think thats exactly how things work in the NFL. You want a player on another team? No problem...just offer them a 6th round pick and enough scrubs and they will trade you whoever. I mean EA Sports doesn't care about realism...you've been able to return muffed punts for TDs since the beginning and its never been addressed and teams always go into the 2 minute warning with all 3 timeouts unless they lose it on a challenge...you never have to burn timeouts for any reason. They add "cool" new graphics or features that nobody uses but can't be bothered to address basic realism. So now you have a whole generation of NFL fan that thinks Madden is how things work in real life. Edited October 11, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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