PromoTheRobot Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Not get get ahead of ourselves, but say the Bills finish with a better record than either #3 or #4 seed conference champs. Didn't the NFL once consider allowing a wild card team with a better record to host a game? Or did they table that idea? Edited October 7, 2019 by PromoTheRobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 No. Only division winners can host a playoff game except in the unlikely scenario that 5 and 6 end up at the Championship game where 5 will host... not sure if that’s ever happened... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Unfortunately no, in order to get a home wild card game in the playoffs you have to win your division. Even if that means one division winner is 8-8 and we go 11-5. It's really stupid but that's how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I think the bigger change that should be thought through is allowing the top 6 overall records to get into the playoffs, thus eliminating lemon division winners getting into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 A division could have all teams winning home division games and losing all away division games (3-3) while another have 2 teams win all division games except 1 (5-1). Which division is the lemon division?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 KC is what the Colts used to be  Soft wimpy finesse team  Colts are now tough running team with a defense  NE is going 19-0  This is sickening That's game folks!  Wow what a stinker next week on SNF   1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Not get get ahead of ourselves, but say the Bills finish with a better record than either #3 or #4 seed conference champs. Didn't the NFL once consider allowing a wild card team with a better record to host a game? Or did they table that idea? Â No if they want homefield in the WC round they need to win the division............which shouldn't be conceded by the fanbase..........the AFC is winnable. Â Â It's all winnable. Â Â But they gotta' find a way to score points along with the good defense. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The only possibility for a home playoff game is to be the 5th seed and the championship game be against the two WC teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think the bigger change that should be thought through is allowing the top 6 overall records to get into the playoffs, thus eliminating lemon division winners getting into the playoffs. Â Well, the 2007 NY Giants were 9-7. Â Or are you referring to say, sub .500 records? Â I'm leaning toward agreeing with you on this change, but doubt it would be implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:  Well, the 2007 NY Giants were 9-7.  Or are you referring to say, sub .500 records?  I'm leaning toward agreeing with you on this change, but doubt it would be implemented.  Sub .500, or really, just anyone who isn’t top in the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: The only possibility for a home playoff game is to be the 5th seed and the championship game be against the two WC teams   Or.......ya' know.......win the division.   1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Â Â Or.......ya' know.......win the division. Â Â Of course but the thread is about a WC home game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 So we will most likely going to be playing the wildcard game on the road in Baltimore or Cleveland ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: KC is what the Colts used to be  Soft wimpy finesse team  Colts are now tough running team with a defense  NE is going 19-0  This is sickening That's game folks!  Wow what a stinker next week on SNF    Such a vile canard.  You DO realize that other than the Bills, who should have beaten NE, the combined record of the Cheatriots other opponents is 1-17, yes?  NE will lose to the Bills twice - in December and January. . 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: So New England most likely going to be playing the wildcard game on the road in Baltimore or Cleveland Fixed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Beat the Pats in December so they have to play here in January !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I don't think the division is totally out of the question. The Pats offense was meh again yesterday at times. Their defense is outstanding though. You might be talking about the two best defenses in the NFL in the AFCE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think the division is totally out of the question. The Pats offense was meh again yesterday at times. Their defense is outstanding though. You might be talking about the two best defenses in the NFL in the AFCE.  I agree. Brady's CLEARLY not what he once was.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 7 hours ago, whatdrought said: I think the bigger change that should be thought through is allowing the top 6 overall records to get into the playoffs, thus eliminating lemon division winners getting into the playoffs. That would be an awful move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Pile up the wins and things will work out. I saw someone say that  they should change it to the top six teams. A 9-7 division winner might not get the hopeless Jets, and Fins four times. So the worse record really wouldn’t tell the whole story in some cases.  The system works, leave it alone. Keep winning, even the old man in the mountain couldn’t last forever, Brady’s end is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: That would be an awful move. I agree. Winning your division should be something for the fans to root for. It also gives an okay team in a weak division a chance and hope for the post season play.   Edited October 7, 2019 by maryland-bills-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:  No if they want homefield in the WC round they need to win the division............which shouldn't be conceded by the fanbase..........the AFC is winnable.   It's all winnable.   But they gotta' find a way to score points along with the good defense.   All they've gotta do is score one more than the opposition, and they've managed to do that 4 out of 5 times so far. Josh is getting better, and Singletary returns after the bye.  In order to have a chance to catch the Pats*** the Bills can probably only lose one more game before W16. Of course, the Pats*** have to lose at least one as well. Their toughest stretch by far is weeks 9-14: @BAL, bye, @PHI, DAL, @HOU, KC. Is it possible? Sure. Definitely improbable, but I won't count the Bills out of any game at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 9 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: KC is what the Colts used to be  Soft wimpy finesse team  Colts are now tough running team with a defense  NE is going 19-0  This is sickening That's game folks!  Wow what a stinker next week on SNF   Pats aren't going 19-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Not get get ahead of ourselves, but say the Bills finish with a better record than either #3 or #4 seed conference champs. Didn't the NFL once consider allowing a wild card team with a better record to host a game? Or did they table that idea?  I've heard people (some idiots) talk about it in the past.  I don't ever think the NFL took it seriously.   9 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: KC is what the Colts used to be  Soft wimpy finesse team  Colts are now tough running team with a defense  NE is going 19-0  This is sickening That's game folks!  Wow what a stinker next week on SNF  LOL  The Colts took the Chef's to the kitchen for some schooling last night. the Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Not get get ahead of ourselves, but say the Bills finish with a better record than either #3 or #4 seed conference champs. Didn't the NFL once consider allowing a wild card team with a better record to host a game? Or did they table that idea?  This should be brought up on the Pats* fan site. The Bills are winning the division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 You win your division you SHOULD be hosting a playoff game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gugny said:  This should be brought up on the Pats* fan site. The Bills are winning the division. GGAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Is it time to get up to Foxboro yet???!!!!!  4 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: You win your division you SHOULD be hosting a playoff game. the 12-4 chargers shouldn't have had to travel for BOTH their games last year against teams with lesser records.  the 7-9 seahawks NEVER deserved a playoff slot, let alone a home game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Gugny said:  This should be brought up on the Pats* fan site. The Bills are winning the division.  Wasn't there a year where someone in the NFC West, Seattle I think, won the division with a 7-9 record and got to host a playoff game against a team with a far better record? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: Unfortunately no, in order to get a home wild card game in the playoffs you have to win your division. Even if that means one division winner is 8-8 and we go 11-5. It's really stupid but that's how it works I agree with it. If you get in with a wild card you should have no special treatment. Want a home game? Win your division. Â Keeps teams playing hard at the end of the season even once they have clinched a playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:  Wasn't there a year where someone in the NFC West, Seattle I think, won the division with a 7-9 record and got to host a playoff game against a team with a far better record?  Yes. It was Seattle. They hosted the Saints and beat them partially due to a 75 (I think) yard run by Marshawn Lynch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: You win your division you SHOULD be hosting a playoff game.  true..... however, a team with a record of 10-6 has to visit a Div winner with a record of 7-9.  there is the rub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Â Wasn't there a year where someone in the NFC West, Seattle I think, won the division with a 7-9 record and got to host a playoff game against a team with a far better record? Yup, that was the Marshawn Lynch game against the Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Win your division, get a home playoff game....once in a while it works out so bad team is home...Seahawks (7-9) hosted the Saints (10-6)...Seahawks won.  So win the damn division or the only other way to get a home game is if you are #5 and you and #6 make the championship game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 12 hours ago, whatdrought said: I think the bigger change that should be thought through is allowing the top 6 overall records to get into the playoffs, thus eliminating lemon division winners getting into the playoffs.  But the counter argument to that is you don't play equal schedules. The Bills have an advantage playing the NFC east this year while the AFC west plays the NFC north where all 4 teams are very good. Likely no one in the NFC north will have a great record either as unlikely anyone sweeps the division there too. Even the AFC north plays the NFC west which has three solid teams.  Yes is sucks but also the reason why the road team often does win the wild card game as they often are the better team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Of course but the thread is about a WC home game   I was reacting to you saying that their only chance for a home playoff game would be in the AFC championship.   That's not the case.  2 of the 4 division winners play on WC weekend..........so they could win the division as a 3rd or 4th seed and host a home WC game.  Unlikely that the AFC East champ wouldn't be one of the top 2 seeds but possible nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: the 12-4 chargers shouldn't have had to travel for BOTH their games last year against teams with lesser records. Â the 7-9 seahawks NEVER deserved a playoff slot, let alone a home game. Agree. Home field advantage should be based on record. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:  But the counter argument to that is you don't play equal schedules. The Bills have an advantage playing the NFC east this year while the AFC west plays the NFC north where all 4 teams are very good. Likely no one in the NFC north will have a great record either as unlikely anyone sweeps the division there too. Even the AFC north plays the NFC west which has three solid teams.  Yes is sucks but also the reason why the road team often does win the wild card game as they often are the better team.  I agree. Also playing your division teams 2 times a year does the same thing.  1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Agree. Home field advantage should be based on record. Period.  see above. The only way I agree with that is to get rid of the divisions all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 hours ago, eball said:  All they've gotta do is score one more than the opposition, and they've managed to do that 4 out of 5 times so far. Josh is getting better, and Singletary returns after the bye.  In order to have a chance to catch the Pats*** the Bills can probably only lose one more game before W16. Of course, the Pats*** have to lose at least one as well. Their toughest stretch by far is weeks 9-14: @BAL, bye, @PHI, DAL, @HOU, KC. Is it possible? Sure. Definitely improbable, but I won't count the Bills out of any game at this point.   Pats were 3-5 on the road last year.   The only easy win was their 19 point win in Buffalo.  Because the Bills typically play their worst against them we tend to overhype the regular season Pats.........but they are vulnerable........especially in a year where they get a lot of injuries.  Their schedule has been favorable and they should have lost in Buffalo...........but I still expect them to lose a few games at least.  If the Bills don't figure out how to score more points they will end up losing more of these style of games that they've been winning(the Pats game was already an example of one they could have easily won).  When it always comes down to a bounce or a call or two you eventually take some unexpected L's.   Keeping the score close.......inadvertently(this case) or by design(Jauron Ball) works both ways.   1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 12 hours ago, whatdrought said: I think the bigger change that should be thought through is allowing the top 6 overall records to get into the playoffs, thus eliminating lemon division winners getting into the playoffs. Â the rules are set up ahead of time and teams strategize off these rules to their advantage. Â a team will gladly coast into a division title, with a few less wins than if they tried their hardest all season. Â the NFL loves these rivalry divisions and won't be changing anytime soon. Â a few WC have won it all, not sure about a 7 or 8 win division winner. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I can see both sides, and while it sucks being locked in to a Division with a perpetual 12-14 win team, I side on the "Division winners play at home" side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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