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Week 5: Bills (+2.5) at Titans


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55 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

I think we wont see JA until after the bye. I think if DS returns they may have a chance with the titans 15th against (14th pass) the run?

 

it would be great to chalk up another road win but with JA out I think their chances are pretty slim?

Yes, like I'm pretty sure there's no way Barkley can win that Jets game from last year. It's in New York and we are 2-7, so we should probably go back and call that a loss, even though he tore apart their defense and we routed them..

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21 minutes ago, patzen said:

 

And he also dropped in some dimes against one of the best defenses in the league. Yes, he's a backup for a reason but I think he has played at a high level for us in that capacity. If he continues to play like he did for us last year and yesterday I think we win the game on Sunday.

You could also add that if McD hadn' t foolishly wasted timeouts, things would have been less desperate near the end and Barkley could have operated in a somewhat calmer manner. Or if Haus hadn't missed that FG, then the less-panicky goal would have been to play for the FG and take it to overtime. 

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1 hour ago, corta765 said:

 

The offense cracks were shown, Titans D is legit, and on the road as it is a disadvantage.

  

Right now Titans are a better team given Allen’s performance yesterday. Not much better but Bills are up against it

I think the cracks in your posts are starting to show... imo;)

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On paper, it looks like it could be a carbon copy of the Pats*** game. I certainly look for the Titans to copy BB’s pressure schemes. Easier said than done, though, as the talent available on the D side isn’t the same. 

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24 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

No.

 

Mariota will be wrecked this week. Take it to the bank

 

They don't call him "Carcass Mariota" for nothing....  

 

Tenn is a streaky team.   Mariota still reminds me of his draft buddy Jameis--  as inconsistent as a player can possibly be from week to week. 

 

From what I saw yesterday, we fixed our issues with gap control vs the run game, and we'll need that same thing against Henry, but he's the kind of guy we can shut down.

 

I think Singletary and Josh should focus on the home game vs Miami after the bye week.    Get 100% healthy and ready for business, meanwhile let Barkley practice this week, see how Foster, McKenzie and Duke compete vs Zay,  get that RT spot under control, and get busy with the gameplan for Sunday. 

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This is one of three big games on the schedule, including at Browns and home against Baltimore.  Bills, Titans, Browns and Ravens will all be battling for a playoff spot come December and winning these head-to-head games are going to be key going forward.  Pull out a win in Nashville, get healthy during the bye and start the playoff run with three games at home.  Defense will need to come up big again and there's no reason we can't get some needed turnovers off Mariota.  

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1 minute ago, Da webster guy said:

 

They don't call him "Carcass Mariota" for nothing....  

 

Tenn is a streaky team.   Mariota still reminds me of his draft buddy Jameis--  as inconsistent as a player can possibly be from week to week. 

 

From what I saw yesterday, we fixed our issues with gap control vs the run game, and we'll need that same thing against Henry, but he's the kind of guy we can shut down.

 

I think Singletary and Josh should focus on the home game vs Miami after the bye week.    Get 100% healthy and ready for business, meanwhile let Barkley practice this week, see how Foster, McKenzie and Duke compete vs Zay,  get that RT spot under control, and get busy with the gameplan for Sunday. 

 

Outside of Barkley's big run against us, no one's had sustained success running on this defense.

 

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37 minutes ago, patzen said:

 

And he also dropped in some dimes against one of the best defenses in the league. Yes, he's a backup for a reason but I think he has played at a high level for us in that capacity. If he continues to play like he did for us last year and yesterday I think we win the game on Sunday.

He would be playing another top defense with the Titans. I think he would need to play better for us to win.

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Look with the bye week after this game unless Allen and Singletary are 100% healed and fully ready to go you sit them both as much as that will hurt. 2 additional weeks, esp for a hammy injury, could be the difference between 70-75% (more likely to re-injure) and 100% the rest of the year. As far as Allen, if he gets through the protocol fine but he was out cold less then 24 hours ago so we will see. I would be as careful as needed with these two. 

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2 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

Yea and you can’t discount the let down the team may have after losing a game like this

Teams sometimes have a let down after a big win too. Mariota will look average at best against our Defense. I would not write the Bills off so quickly.  

9 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

With the bye the week after there is no way Allen plays.

 

This is an L either way.

The speed in which people are giving up on this team is hysterical. 

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11 minutes ago, thurst44 said:

Yes, like I'm pretty sure there's no way Barkley can win that Jets game from last year. It's in New York and we are 2-7, so we should probably go back and call that a loss, even though he tore apart their defense and we routed them..

I'm not quite as confident in his game as you may be based off last seasons one game and that's your prerogative to believe it's enough to make you confident. he is what he is, a mediocre back up that unfortunately had his number called due to the cheap shot. although if JA would of taken the slide option we wouldn't be having this discussion, hope he learns from that and stops the damn hero ball.

 

I honestly cringed when barkley was throwing yesterday on a few plays, waiting for the inevitable int and it finally came like a dagger in the heart on that last play.

 

maybe he can manage just enough with help from the running game to pull off the win?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Teams sometimes have a let down after a big win too. Mariota will look average at best against our Defense. I would not write the Bills off so quickly.  

The speed in which people are giving up on this team is hysterical. 

Some people are just miserable, and they like to make other people feel as miserable as they do.  They are sad, so don't pick on them, feel sorry for them.  They deserve your pity because of the life they have to live.

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This game is huge and it sucks we potentially won't have Allen playing in it

 

Someone with more knowledge of concussion protocol, how much is it word from the player himself vs actual medical documentation?

 

Allen is young and reckless could definitely see him as the guy who says he has no symptoms just to clear protocol

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32 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

Bills will beat the Titans.  Best guess the Bills are heading to a 11-5 record, with losses to Eagles, Browns, Cowboys, and Pats.  Should be a 5 or 6 seed and if they get hot they could win the whole things.

Eagles, Browns, Boys and Pats are all eminently beatable. Don't know why you assume losses there. Heck, with even just competent QB play, the Bills easily win yesterday..

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7 minutes ago, yungmack said:

Eagles, Browns, Boys and Pats are all eminently beatable. Don't know why you assume losses there. Heck, with even just competent QB play, the Bills easily win yesterday..

I think people are concerned, me included, because we aren't getting competent play from our offensive or special teams units. The offence has improved but we started with the second to last ranked unit from last year, so improving to say 23rd in the league is a nice jump but still means our D has to hold teams to under 20 points to win, which isn't a good scenario. Our ST unit is still bottom 1/3 of the league, probably worse when the updated DVOA ranks come out tomorrow.

 

Could we beat any of those teams, sure. Would we be favoured to win any of those games, no.

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1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

With the bye the week after there is no way Allen plays.

 

This is an L either way.

 

Your first take is a shot in the dark and ignorant. 

 

Your second take is just plain stupid. 

 

13 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said:

I think people are concerned, me included, because we aren't getting competent play from our offensive or special teams units. The offence has improved but we started with the second to last ranked unit from last year, so improving to say 23rd in the league is a nice jump but still means our D has to hold teams to under 20 points to win, which isn't a good scenario. Our ST unit is still bottom 1/3 of the league, probably worse when the updated DVOA ranks come out tomorrow.

 

Could we beat any of those teams, sure. Would we be favoured to win any of those games, no.

 

We don't really know what we're getting is the problem... This has got to be the hardest team to predict. We've won against bad teams but looked up and down in the process, and then we lost against what is supposed to be the worst team in the NFL and looked amazing and horrible at the same time. We've got a lot of questions left unanswered and we're still 3-4 weeks from knowing much of anything about how legit or not this team is going to be. 

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As shown by the Football Night in America crew last night,  Tennessee found their secret sauce for offense yesterday.  Mariotta can’t sit in the pocket and read a defense without getting sacked so they just did quick timing passes and short dump offs yesterday. It was very successful. I’m sure the Bills will see a heavy dose of this on Sunday and should be prepared.

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41 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Your first take is a shot in the dark and ignorant. 

 

Your second take is just plain stupid. 

Can I make a list of posts that are shots in the dark?  Supposing that the team won't expose a QB in protocol to rush him back when they could give him nearly 3 calendar weeks to recover rather than 6 days is just an outlandish thing to say?  OK.

 

The fact that I think this is a loss whether or not Allen plays is stupid only because you disagree with it. No Allen, No Singletary, on the road after an emotional loss?  Clearly, what am I thinking?  You could have asked me in August and I would have marked this week as an L.  Based on recent events I'm more convinced.

 

This is an 8-8 football team give or take one game on either side.

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1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

With the bye the week after there is no way Allen plays.

 

This is an L either way.

 

6 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Can I make a list of posts that are shots in the dark?  Supposing that the team won't expose a QB in protocol to rush him back when they could give him nearly 3 calendar weeks to recover rather than 6 days is just an outlandish thing to say?  OK.

 

The fact that I think this is a loss whether or not Allen plays is stupid only because you disagree with it. No Allen, No Singletary, on the road after an emotional loss?  Clearly, what am I thinking?  You could have asked me in August and I would have marked this week as an L.  Based on recent events I'm more convinced.

 

This is an 8-8 football team give or take one game on either side.

 

Let's review. You're not saying there's a chance he doesn't play, you're not saying it would be prudent for him to rest to the bye, you're saying there's no chance he plays. That's a bad take because, as I said, it's ignorant. Until we know more it's ridiculous to think it's clear either way. 

 

Now you're also assuming that Singletary isn't playing (unless I missed some news somewhere) which is also ridiculous given the fact that he came close to playing this week. As for the assertion that it's a loss whether or not Allen plays, I suppose that is a difference of opinion. I think mine is closer to reality given the overall context of the first four weeks of the NFL season, but if you feel super confident that the best (or at least top 3) defense in the NFL that made Tom Brady look like Marcus Mariota, can't beat a team that got beat by Gardner Minshew, then you take that feeling to the bank and have fun with it. I think you're very misinformed and projecting your negativity onto reality. 

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Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

the home field is standard normally -3  .  for the game to be + 2.5,  the Bills have the slight favor.    

 

And that is with their Starting QB right now on the shelf, let it be announced he is cleared protocol say Wed or Thursday and what what that line does (I doubt after the hit vegas already baking in that he will be cleared to play)

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