MAJBobby Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 We know NE with BB will game plan to take away your best option and force you for other options to win the game. so that being said after 3 weeks. I have to think Smoke will be the one taken away and maybe the intermediate passing game. so does this week open up for a Beasley and deep ball offensive game plan this week? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I would hope they have a coming out party for Dawson Knox this week. 100+ yards, 2TDs, 8 receptions. Make him known throughout the league. It will open up so much in terms of offense going forward. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, mrags said: I would hope they have a coming out party for Dawson Knox this week. 100+ yards, 2TDs, 8 receptions. Make him known throughout the league. It will open up so much in terms of offense going forward. ...and at least one DB carted off the field Edited September 24, 2019 by billsfan1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Cant take Singletary out of the gameplan when we dont play him until the 4th quarter 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 They will put a 'spy' on Allen to prevent him from scrambling. IIRC they did this last year with some success. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: We know NE with BB will game plan to take away your best option and force you for other options to win the game. so that being said after 3 weeks. I have to think Smoke will be the one taken away and maybe the intermediate passing game. so does this week open up for a Beasley and deep ball offensive game plan this week? I think it'll be the opposite. They will remove Beasley and make Knox/Zay Jones beat them. I think they can live with the danger of bombs to Brown and Foster. If Allen throws for over 300 yards with deep strikes, they lost to a great performance by a young quarterback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: ...and at least one DB carted off the field Well yeah. He needs to show the Pats that Gronk was weak compared to him. Thanks fir this clip. Honestly, I might like it more than his angry run. He didn’t have to hit this guy. He was going out of bounds. He hit him clearly to exert his dominance. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I think the Bills best option would be to go a lot with 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB formations. If the D goes "heavy" use the TE's against LB's in the passing game. If they go nickel or dime in coverage then run the ball a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, mrags said: Well yeah. He needs to show the Pats that Gronk was weak compared to him. Thanks fir this clip. Honestly, I might like it more than his angry run. He didn’t have to hit this guy. He was going out of bounds. He hit him clearly to exert his dominance. the Juggerknox 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: the Juggerknox I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: We know NE with BB will game plan to take away your best option and force you for other options to win the game. so that being said after 3 weeks. I have to think Smoke will be the one taken away and maybe the intermediate passing game. so does this week open up for a Beasley and deep ball offensive game plan this week? This would be a great time to break the seal and have Foster become a threat again. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: ...and at least one DB carted off the field Insert Baby Gronk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I wondered whether they've been saving Foster for a game like this. He's become the forgotten man out there. That's no doubt because he's just been pushed down the depth chart and has lost his confidence somewhat, but I try to look at these things optimistically and hope Dabol has been waiting to unleash him for some bombs. Very unlikely, but I do think the way you beat Satan is by being aggressive and showing no fear. You can see Josh has been waiting to just uncork one and I think this may the week he finally connects one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I wondered whether they've been saving Foster for a game like this. He's become the forgotten man out there. That's no doubt because he's just been pushed down the depth chart and has lost his confidence somewhat, but I try to look at these things optimistically and hope Dabol has been waiting to unleash him for some bombs. Very unlikely, but I do think the way you beat Satan is by being aggressive and showing no fear. You can see Josh has been waiting to just uncork one and I think this may the week he finally connects one. Right I know it's ridiculous but this would such a great moment to reveal that we are not left handed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, RobbRiddick said: I wondered whether they've been saving Foster for a game like this. He's become the forgotten man out there. That's no doubt because he's just been pushed down the depth chart and has lost his confidence somewhat, but I try to look at these things optimistically and hope Dabol has been waiting to unleash him for some bombs. Very unlikely, but I do think the way you beat Satan is by being aggressive and showing no fear. You can see Josh has been waiting to just uncork one and I think this may the week he finally connects one. I think the problem is that he is very inaccurate in deep bombs. I think the only one hes ever really hit on with an accurate throw was the one to Foster against the Jags. I think BB would love it if we tried to beat them with deep shots all game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 NE is going to have a hard time if they are trying to take your best player out. The Bills have been spreading the ball around very well in the passing game and they have been good running the ball too. There is talent all over the place. Their streak of games without allowing a TD is about to implode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I think the Bills best option would be to go a lot with 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB formations. If the D goes "heavy" use the TE's against LB's in the passing game. If they go nickel or dime in coverage then run the ball a lot. Completely agree. We will need Singletary in this game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rockinon said: NE is going to have a hard time if they are trying to take your best player out. The Bills have been spreading the ball around very well in the passing game and they have been good running the ball too. There is talent all over the place. Their streak of games without allowing a TD is about to implode. I hate to say it, but my guess is Gilmore will effectively mitigate Brown or Beasley, whichever BB considers more of a threat in addition to taking away something else. That being said, I agree with you with how well Josh has been distributing the ball. I hope he keeps it up this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 My guess is their big plan will be disguised blitzes from all over the field to try and keep Allen second guessing himself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: We know NE with BB will game plan to take away your best option and force you for other options to win the game. so that being said after 3 weeks. I have to think Smoke will be the one taken away and maybe the intermediate passing game. so does this week open up for a Beasley and deep ball offensive game plan this week? Ben Volin from The Boston Globe was on with Bulldog today. He suggested BB's aim will be to force Allen to be a pocket passer. I.E., take away his mobility, make him read confusing look defenses, and make the right throw. This is one area where Josh struggles, so you can be sure BB will do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: We know NE with BB will game plan to take away your best option and force you for other options to win the game. so that being said after 3 weeks. I have to think Smoke will be the one taken away and maybe the intermediate passing game. so does this week open up for a Beasley and deep ball offensive game plan this week? So taking away Brown...opens up the deep ball? Isn't he supposed to be our primary deep threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 My guess is he is going to disguise the defense and force Allen to make pre snap reads then change the defense before the snap. 1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said: So taking away Brown...opens up the deep ball? Isn't he supposed to be our primary deep threat? BB will give up the deep ball to single coverage. Which will be Gilmore on Jones. Those are low percentage throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 If I had to guess they will take allens security blankets away, which are his mobility and beasley/the tight ends so far this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, mrags said: I would hope they have a coming out party for Dawson Knox this week. 100+ yards, 2TDs, 8 receptions. Make him known throughout the league. It will open up so much in terms of offense going forward. ...interesting.....with these two youngin' TE's ala Knox and Sweeney, perhaps a DUAL threat like Belichick did with Gronk and Hernandez?....sure worked for them........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) I’m sure BB will have a safety doubling up Smoke and Gilmore will shut down whoever is on the opposite side. Could be big days for Knox and Beasley. Edited September 24, 2019 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I’m sure BB will have a safety doubling up Smoke and Gilmore will shut down whoever is on the opposite side. Could be big days for Knox and Beasley. My guess Beasley will have an over under on him. I remember in 09 teams started doing that to Moss and Welker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I honestly think the Bills should play the game aggressive and like they are playing with house money. Obviously there is a line between aggressive and stupid but you honestly have to play to control the temp of the game and take calculated risks to win games. I think going conservative is the kiss of death against the Pats*. The defense will likely make enough stops and field goal attempts to have the game at worst within 2 scores deep. So the decisions to avoid turnovers might seem good. However considering the fact that you simply will not out conservative the Pats* you might as well go for broke when it comes to beating them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Josh inaccuacy is on the deep ball. He needs to put more air under it so it floats into Foster,Brown or Roberts hands with a full head of steam. "The Bomb" Edited September 24, 2019 by JohninMinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Take away John Brown on 1st and 2nd down. Take away Beasley on 3rd down. Contain Allen in the pocket. Knox and Zay Jones have to step up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, dpberr said: I think it'll be the opposite. They will remove Beasley and make Knox/Zay Jones beat them. I think they can live with the danger of bombs to Brown and Foster. If Allen throws for over 300 yards with deep strikes, they lost to a great performance by a young quarterback. Why do you think Brown is just a bomb target? He has been catching all kinds of passes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, dpberr said: I think it'll be the opposite. They will remove Beasley and make Knox/Zay Jones beat them. I think they can live with the danger of bombs to Brown and Foster. If Allen throws for over 300 yards with deep strikes, they lost to a great performance by a young quarterback. not sure. When a pass is needed Josh has been going to Brown not Beasley. And that is why I think Brown is the guy they would take away via gameplan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...interesting.....with these two youngin' TE's ala Knox and Sweeney, perhaps a DUAL threat like Belichick did with Gronk and Hernandez?....sure worked for them........... It’s been talked about to death I feel like. I’m not sure we can compete with that. At first while Knox was hurt, we saw Sweeney really step up in camp and looked solid. Maybe it’s possible for him to get better but I feel like he’s got some more work to do. But Knox is just a superior athlete. I see him like Jeremy Shockey honestly. The dude is a beast. I would love nothing more than for him to be the next hot TE in this league as a rookie. And honestly, after a small sample size from him, I really feel like that is possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Ben Volin from The Boston Globe was on with Bulldog today. He suggested BB's aim will be to force Allen to be a pocket passer. I.E., take away his mobility, make him read confusing look defenses, and make the right throw. This is one area where Josh struggles, so you can be sure BB will do this. not sure because advanced Stats this year have said otherwise. That he is winning and playing well in the pocket 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said: So taking away Brown...opens up the deep ball? Isn't he supposed to be our primary deep threat? by shading with Safety. Allowing Gilmore to play tight. As opposed to first three weeks where DBs have to stay so far off of Brown he gets free releases and into and out of cuts essentially uncontested. Brown runs all the routes really well. More than Just a deep threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 If Devin is back, go large and run the ball. A good mix of the RBs supplemented with designed runs by Allen. When they move up, send Brown/Foster deep. Pound then and then go over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 I also think Bills should Counter with 21 personnel. And also go Tempo. Josh seems more relaxed ina tempo offense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Belichick is going to try to take away Beasley and Brown. I’m glad the Bills put film out there with Knox on it. It’s really going to come down to play calling and protection. The Bills have talent at the skill positions IF Singletary can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 4 linebackers. Gilmore shadows smoke with help from linebacker on the inside route safety on the go. Linebackers on Singletary and Beasley . Pressure pressure. He’s gonna make Knox or foster beat him. Edited September 24, 2019 by Cruiserplayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Gilmore will be 1 on 1 on Brown IMO. Then I predict they will use an extra guy up in the box to keep Allen from running/ scrambling. That extra guy in the box will also help NE shut down the run. Belichick probably sees Allen making plays when running/scrambling as their biggest asset, so I really think they are going to make Allen beat them from the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 hours ago, dpberr said: I think it'll be the opposite. They will remove Beasley and make Knox/Zay Jones beat them. I think they can live with the danger of bombs to Brown and Foster. If Allen throws for over 300 yards with deep strikes, they lost to a great performance by a young quarterback. This. Bill will bank on his rush getting to Allen and forcing inaccurate downfield passes or turnovers. Will mix zone and pressure underneath. I don't think one guy can keep Beasley covered, they will try to keep him bracketed, but we should test that. If they go man on Beasley or try zone I think we can let Beasley use Sweeney or Knox to create rub plays. Nothing too obvious, but have one of our TE's line up near Beasley and just post up a few yards deep for a pass. Beasley can adjust his route accordingly and either slide underneath our TE if he is being covered with outside leverage, or break towards the sideline if covered from the inside. Good luck jamming him at the line, and let him run some stop and goes. Folks assume short yardage when thinking of Beasley, but I think he could surprise folks deeper. Would do that till they commit 3 men to cover our TE and Beasley. Get grandpa Gore some shoes that stay together, and apply a steady dose of pounding off tackle. You have to slow down that rush and make them respect the run, or they will pin their ears back and life will get ugly for Allen. I don't see NE being fooled by our reverses, but if they are aggressive in pursuit I would try some misdirection to keep them honest. If Allen is going to keep the ball for god's sake can someone teach him the basics of ball security. I know he has big hands, but he needs to learn to switch the ball to his hand that is away from defenders and towards the nearest sideline. Maybe Gore can give him some pointers. I think we have to hit Brady. Even if he is hit as he throws, he needs to feel it. I would love to do twists and delayed stunts up the middle, but we got pantsed last year losing contain on runs off the edge. It is risky vacating that area to bring pressure from the outside up the middle. Will be a tough game, but if the Bills are ever going to advance as an org, this is the monkey we have to get off our back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: the Juggerknox That is what we call a Grand Slam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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