Predict Your Pre-Week 1 Trade

[dezertbill]

The Bills are stacked in a few areas.  I predict moves similar to the Watkins/Darby trades that we saw a few years back.

 

Here are my out of the box moves:

 

LeSean McCoy to the Cowboys for a Conditional 4th-  I predict that Zeke won't be in a Cowboys uniform Week 1, and the Cowboys are in win now mode.  McCoy is in the last year of his deal, and even if Zeke returns his situation wouldn't be any worse than what he's facing in Buffalo.  The Bills are stacked with Gore, Singletary, Yeldon, and this will help them keep Perry for ST.  Cowboys have $23 million in cap space with top 51 players, and this will allow McCoy to face his old team twice a year.  The pick turns into a 5th if Shady doesn't hit certain milestones.

 

Zay Jones to the Texans for a 5th round pick-   The Bills WR corp is stacked, and I see Jones being the odd man out.  There was a post a while back stating Zay Jones won't be on the roster week 1, and after his father's tweet and the competition at the position, that seems more likely than ever.  The Texans need WR depth, and even though Zay knows every WR position in Buffalo,  he neither possesses the outright speed, shifty route running, or size to grab jump balls that the other receivers offer.

 

What are your predictions?

 

 

 

 

[JoPar_v2]

“The Bills’ WR corps is stacked”

 

you actually typed that out. I have no words.

 

Edit: and that cowboys shizz is just ridiculous as well. 

 

Tell us the truth, we are your friends: how much did you smoke before you posted this? It’s okay. No judgment

Edited August 29, 2019 by JoPar_v2

[Magox]

4 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

“The Bills’ WR corps is stacked”

 

you actually typed that out. I have no words.

 

Edit: and that cowboys shizz is just ridiculous as well. 

 

Tell us the truth, we are your friends: how much did you smoke before you posted this? It’s okay. No judgment

 

I would say that the team is stacked with a number of mid level backup 2nd - 3rd tier NFL roster level WR's.

Edited August 29, 2019 by Magox

[GunnerBill]

40 minutes ago, dezertbill said:

 The Bills WR corp is stacked,

 

 

Stacked in terms oif having lots of similar bottom of the roster guys? I think you can make a legitimate argument that we have one borderline 2/3 receiver (Brown); one established #3 (Beasley); one wildcard (Foster); and then a glut of #5 or #6 receivers (McKenzie, Roberts, Zay, Williams, Cam Phillips etc) and some guys who should be working hard on their shelf stacking skills (McCloud, Sills, Bolden Jnr etc)

[H2o]

Yeah, I got nothing. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Barkley to the Colts for TY Hilton ?

[billsredneck1]

3 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Barkley to the Colts for TY Hilton ?

oh hell no

 

on second thought maybe if they throw in kelly......nah nevermind.

Edited August 29, 2019 by billsredneck1

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Stacked in terms oif having lots of similar bottom of the roster guys? I think you can make a legitimate argument that we have one borderline 2/3 receiver (Brown); one established #3 (Beasley); one wildcard (Foster); and then a glut of #5 or #6 receivers (McKenzie, Roberts, Zay, Williams, Cam Phillips etc) and some guys who should be working hard on their shelf stacking skills (McCloud, Sills, Bolden Jnr etc)

 

Couldn’t agree more. I’m not nearly as sold on the Smoke Brown hype as others are. I see him as a one trick pony. I just don’t buy the camp reports.

 

As far as Beasley, I know listing them as a number is trivial, but I’d think his production and value credits him a #2 role. Did you call him a three because he plays in the slot, and won’t necessarily be in their “base” formation? I can understand that 

[freddyjj]

Wyatt Teller to HOU for a 5th rd pick next year.  Boettger is better player and offers position flexibility.  Beane gets back original draft position value. 

[Doc Brown]

I don't expect a trade.  If McCoy is traded it's likely during the season.

 

If I had to predict one it would be TJ Yeldon for a 6th from the Texans.

[machine gun kelly]

I don’t see any trades, but I’ve been wrong more than enough times.

[GunnerBill]

14 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

Couldn’t agree more. I’m not nearly as sold on the Smoke Brown hype as others are. I see him as a one trick pony. I just don’t buy the camp reports.

 

As far as Beasley, I know listing them as a number is trivial, but I’d think his production and value credits him a #2 role. Did you call him a three because he plays in the slot, and won’t necessarily be in their “base” formation? I can understand that 

 

A little bit the slot thing I supppose, but mainly the fact that in 7 seasons in Dallas he was only in their top 2 for yards twice. He was worse than 3rd three times. Now I know their offense was built a little differently with a TE who was a key passing game target but I am an advocate of the theory that once a guy has ben in the league 5 years you should throw out his best year, throw out his worst year and what you are left with is probably what he is. And when you do that for Cole I think he is a #3. A guy who will catch some balls and move the chains for you on 3rd down but who is not normally the guy defenses are game planning to stop. I think he is a good #3 and a good addition, I am not hating on him or his signing and I hope he gets somewhere close to his career year - 75 for 833 and 5 TDs. I just think when you look properly at his production through 7 years he has produced at the #3 level rather than the #2 level.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

A little bit the slot thing I supppose, but mainly the fact that in 7 seasons in Dallas he was only in their top 2 for yards twice. He was worse than 3rd three times. Now I know their offense was built a little differently with a TE who was a key passing game target but I am an advocate of the theory that once a guy has ben in the league 5 years you should throw out his best year, throw out his worst year and what you are left with is probably what he is. And when you do that for Cole I think he is a #3. A guy who will catch some balls and move the chains for you on 3rd down but who is not normally the guy defenses are game planning to stop. I think he is a good #3 and a good addition, I am not hating on him or his signing and I hope he gets somewhere close to his career year - 75 for 833 and 5 TDs. I just think when you look properly at his production through 7 years he has produced at the #3 level rather than the #2 level.

 

Well thought out and makes sense. Thanks 

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[HOUSE]

Vikings WR  Laquan Treadwell (who is on the block) to Buffalo-4th round pick from Buffalo

Watch tonight #11

 

https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2019/8/27/20834840/laquon-treadwell-trade-rumors-jaguars-panthers

Edited August 29, 2019 by HOUSE

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Vikings WR  Laquan Treadwell (who is on the block) to Buffalo-4th round pick from Buffalo

Watch tonight #11

 

https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2019/8/27/20834840/laquon-treadwell-trade-rumors-jaguars-panthers

 

A 4th for Treadwell? He will end up being cut. Why the hell would we give anything for him?

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

A 4th for Treadwell? He will end up being cut. Why the hell would we give anything for him?

 

Just a prediction, it doesn't mean I would do it...lol

[Hebert19]

Funny you started this threat.  Was going to start a similar one.  

 

My guess is Yeldon to cowboys for a 6th and or Zay to giants for a 4th 

[Rc2catch]

The Watkins/Darby trades was a strategy move for the following season. Not sure how that relates to this year. Teams are not stupid, there’s about to be 100’s of players cut to shop from. Cowboys aren’t giving up a pick for shady, you know dang well Zeke will be back at some point. If they have to run Alfred Morris and this pollard kid a couple weeks they will. Zeke has no actual leverage on a contract he’s just wasting money and game checks if he sits into the season. And possibly delaying free agency for himself in 2 years if he really wants it to get ugly. Beane isn’t actively shopping for picks this year, maybe a player but we’re not stockpiling draft picks anymore. 

[Hebert19]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

A little bit the slot thing I supppose, but mainly the fact that in 7 seasons in Dallas he was only in their top 2 for yards twice. He was worse than 3rd three times. Now I know their offense was built a little differently with a TE who was a key passing game target but I am an advocate of the theory that once a guy has ben in the league 5 years you should throw out his best year, throw out his worst year and what you are left with is probably what he is. And when you do that for Cole I think he is a #3. A guy who will catch some balls and move the chains for you on 3rd down but who is not normally the guy defenses are game planning to stop. I think he is a good #3 and a good addition, I am not hating on him or his signing and I hope he gets somewhere close to his career year - 75 for 833 and 5 TDs. I just think when you look properly at his production through 7 years he has produced at the #3 level rather than the #2 level.

My only argument would be what do you consider Welker or Edelman?  If they are number ones and we make Beasley a focal point where he catches 80 plus balls...then I'd argue that he is a number 1.   He left Dallas because he wasn't the first or second option and he felt he could be. 

[CaptnCoke11]

Ryan Bates for Eli Harold... Only trade you’ll see 

[Rc2catch]

26 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

My only argument would be what do you consider Welker or Edelman?  If they are number ones and we make Beasley a focal point where he catches 80 plus balls...then I'd argue that he is a number 1.   He left Dallas because he wasn't the first or second option and he felt he could be. 

I think he specifically picked buffalo for those reasons. He wants a team to feed him the ball. Dak does not read the field well at all. Beasley was always open and dak rarely looked his way. I think Beasley picked buffalo for their lack of playmakers at receiver, a young influential quarterback he can build rapport with, and to be a focal point of the offense. I think Beasley will see the most targets every game. He is just not coverable 

[TheBeaneBandit]

No specifics, but I see a depth type trade or two, nothing big.  Maybe OL or DB. 

[Victory Formation]

Robert Foster to the Giants for a 3rd round pick.

[MJS]

You think a tweet from Zay's father is going to contribute to him being traded?

[HOUSE]

Tyree Jackson to Oakland for a #7

 

Why would the Raiders do this?  Because the head coach is crazy over under performing QBs

Tyree Jackson, he can win for ya

 

 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

45 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

My only argument would be what do you consider Welker or Edelman?  If they are number ones and we make Beasley a focal point where he catches 80 plus balls...then I'd argue that he is a number 1.   He left Dallas because he wasn't the first or second option and he felt he could be. 

 

Welker and Edelman were #1s with #1 production. In recent years teams scheming against New England have tried to take away Edelman and Gronk. Maybe Beasley comes here and produces at that level. But based in what he has produced to this point for me he is a good slot receiver and a solid 3rd option. What he hasn't had as much - other than the start of last season is teams prioritising taking him away. And when saying "this receiving corps is stacked" you have to think about what these guys have proved so far. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Hebert19 said:

Funny you started this threat.  Was going to start a similar one. 

If that isn’t a Freudian slip, I don’t know what is.  Must have something to do with Zay’s dad yapping in the Twitterverse.

Just now, HOUSE said:

Tyree Jackson to Oakland for a #7

 

Why would the Raiders do this?  Because the head coach is crazy over under performing QBs

Tyree Jackson, he can win for ya

 

 

 

 

“Mark, it’s Jon.  Can I borrow your van?  There’s not enough room on the team bus for cast off Bills QBs”.

[BarleyNY]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Stacked in terms oif having lots of similar bottom of the roster guys? I think you can make a legitimate argument that we have one borderline 2/3 receiver (Brown); one established #3 (Beasley); one wildcard (Foster); and then a glut of #5 or #6 receivers (McKenzie, Roberts, Zay, Williams, Cam Phillips etc) and some guys who should be working hard on their shelf stacking skills (McCloud, Sills, Bolden Jnr etc)

 

Yeah.  A lot of people are mistaking a big improvement in our receiving corps for our receiving corps being good.  We are really crying out for a true #1 WR.  One quality piece there and that unit is above average.  Not so at present. 

 

I would like to see a trade with Philly or GB for one of their good, surplus OLmen.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

Vikings WR  Laquan Treadwell (who is on the block) to Buffalo-4th round pick from Buffalo

Watch tonight #11

Even better...at halftime.  Suits up as a Bill for the second half.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

4 hours ago, dezertbill said:

The Bills are stacked in a few areas.  I predict moves similar to the Watkins/Darby trades that we saw a few years back.

 

Here are my out of the box moves:

 

LeSean McCoy to the Cowboys for a Conditional 4th-  I predict that Zeke won't be in a Cowboys uniform Week 1, and the Cowboys are in win now mode.  McCoy is in the last year of his deal, and even if Zeke returns his situation wouldn't be any worse than what he's facing in Buffalo.  The Bills are stacked with Gore, Singletary, Yeldon, and this will help them keep Perry for ST.  Cowboys have $23 million in cap space with top 51 players, and this will allow McCoy to face his old team twice a year.  The pick turns into a 5th if Shady doesn't hit certain milestones.

 

Zay Jones to the Texans for a 5th round pick-   The Bills WR corp is stacked, and I see Jones being the odd man out.  There was a post a while back stating Zay Jones won't be on the roster week 1, and after his father's tweet and the competition at the position, that seems more likely than ever.  The Texans need WR depth, and even though Zay knows every WR position in Buffalo,  he neither possesses the outright speed, shifty route running, or size to grab jump balls that the other receivers offer.

 

What are your predictions?

 

 

 

 

 

They need as much cap space as possible should they extend zeke and also to possibly extend dak and cooper.  They'll need to roll over as much as humanly possible.  Theyd just sign marcus murphy for league minimum at this point.  

 

If I'm Buffalo I'm not trading Zay Jones for a 5th round pick in 2020... He seems to be a process guy and will do what is asked of him to play.  We're also in win-now mode.

28 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

Yeah.  A lot of people are mistaking a big improvement in our receiving corps for our receiving corps being good.  We are really crying out for a true #1 WR.  One quality piece there and that unit is above average.  Not so at present. 

 

I would like to see a trade with Philly or GB for one of their good, surplus OLmen.  

 

When you factor in that we have like nothing other than a couple of rookies at tight end too... our pass catchers are near the bottom of the league.  They just aren't probably rock bottom anymore.

[billsredneck1]

trading any of the wrs (of the top  6)...and that includes duke, is pretty unlikely. zay was a 2nd rd. pick who i believe holds the college career record and is going into his 3rd yr.

whatever happened to the old saying that "it generally takes 3 yrs. for a wr to blossom". i expect him to be better this year.

 

i'm hoping they line brown and foster on the outsides together...a lot.

 

anyways, there's gonna be 1000 guys floating around to shop from saturday. i think any trade will happen in october.

[Mc1320]

Santa Claus for the Easter Bunny - I hate to say it but Santa is getting a little long in the tooth - getting older, eaten too many cookies, one to many times in and out of the the sleigh and we now have depth at offensive line.  Easter bunny is quicker, has an advantage given that you can't touch anyone down field anymore.  Would love to see Trips Right formation with Smokey Brown, Cole and the Easter Bunny all on one side - even Cheating Bill B. wouldn't be able to stop all that speed and quickness.

[Bakin]

Vikings are stacked at WR with two 1s (Diggs, Thielen)

Browns (Odell, Landry)

The Chargers, Rams, Raiders all have a rock solid 1-2. 

 

We are not stacked by any means.

 

We don’t even have a 2, on paper anyways. 

 

 

 

[Chuck Wagon]

I have a funny feeling about AJ Green.  I know he's been bouncing around "rumors" for a while, but given he's set to hit FA, if Tyler Boyd can show himself at all to be anywhere near their #1 option while he's out (which, yes, is probably ridiculous) or if the Bengals get off to a terrible start, I think they'll cut bait and flip him.

[thebandit27]

13 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

I have a funny feeling about AJ Green.  I know he's been bouncing around "rumors" for a while, but given he's set to hit FA, if Tyler Boyd can show himself at all to be anywhere near their #1 option while he's out (which, yes, is probably ridiculous) or if the Bengals get off to a terrible start, I think they'll cut bait and flip him.

 

I would agree if their owner hadn't already put his stake in the ground on Green retiring a Bengal...that, and the fact that he's not healthy at the moment.

[CLTbills]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say Teller and a 7th to the Browns for a 5th and a 6th.

[Nextmanup]

I'll suggest Wyatt Teller will go.  Either to Browns or Bengals.  In exchange for picks.

 

 

[Foxx]

10 hours ago, freddyjj said:

Wyatt Teller to HOU for a 5th rd pick next year.  Boettger is better player and offers position flexibility.  Beane gets back original draft position value. 

[BuffAlone]

37 minutes ago, Foxx said:

what's the recipe on that??