Name 5 teams better then the Buffalo Bills

[Dopey]

bears

colts

chiefs

rams

vikes

pats

saints

eagles

hawks

Baker played better than Allen. I have the browns as a push, a slight push with them being better that the Bills.

Dear Bills,

I hope you go out and prove me wrong.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Dopey

[MJS]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

 

The Pats beat us twice like every single year. Every. Single. Year.

[ehfeuh57]

49ers

Eagles

Chiefs

Saints

Patriots

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

38 minutes ago, Manther said:

That puts us in the back half of the league.  I think that is incorrect.  I think we are between 10-15 to START the season.

I hope so man!

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

28 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

KC

NE

Dallas

LA

LA

Saints

Colts

Eagles

Vikings

 

 

Those are the teams I think are most likely to have better records by the end of the year

teams likely on par with Buffalo-

 

Falcons

Browns

Ravens

Panthers

Bears

Texans

Titans

Seahawks

Packers

Steelers

Raiders 

Lions 

Jags

 

Teams they are almost definitely better than-

Fins

Jets

Bengals

Cards

Niners

Redskins

Giants

Bucs

Broncos

 

 

This was a 6 win team last year, while they definitely have the potential to surprise a lot of people, it’s an up hill battle still for sure... people are getting carried away with their expectations because there has been progress with the process, but’s it’s still mid-process.

 

 

Theres no reason to think the Bills are almost definitely better than the Jets.

 

That’s why I’m so excited for week one. Is Q Williams better than Oliver? Is Darnold better than Allen? Will Edmunds take the next step? Does that mean he’s better than Mosley? Which o line will be better? Will Morse play? Which wr corps is better?

A lot of parallels and new players on both sides 

[berg1029]

Hmm.  Clearly better and assuming team is healthy?  

 

I'd say:

 

Patriots

Chiefs

Rams

Chargers 

Colts

Saints

 

 

Edited August 21, 2019 by berg1029

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

So what happens when you split?  Looking at the list I counted at least 18 teams that doubt the Bills would beat home and away, more likely could see a split.   Who then is better? Next you need to look at top to bottom talent and think there are more than 5 with better overall talent or a wild card like an Aaron Rogers or Brady that maybe Bills overall have more talent, but the wild card evens things out.

 

so overall I'd say maybe around 10 are clearly better and then the Bills are somewhere in the mix of the next ten.  By around December we'll know if they are near the top of that group, and maybe  even leap frogging some currency in the top 10, but some of the others in that middle 10 could also improve even more.

[LSHMEAB]

1 hour ago, Chemical said:

 

Theres no reason to think the Bills are almost definitely better than the Jets.

 

That’s why I’m so excited for week one. Is Q Williams better than Oliver? Is Darnold better than Allen? Will Edmunds take the next step? Does that mean he’s better than Mosley? Which o line will be better? Will Morse play? Which wr corps is better?

A lot of parallels and new players on both sides 

Yep. It's naturally gonna be a hyped game being the opener, but it's especially interesting. It's going to be a terrific barometer of where this team/QB/HC are really at. This one is definitely more critical than your average opener.

Edited August 22, 2019 by LSHMEAB

[Jay_Fixit]

AFC:

 

Chiefs

Patriots

Chargers

Steelers

Colts

Texans (maybe).

 

NFC:

 

Rams

Saints

Bears

Seahawks

 

[Iron Maiden]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Chargers (not without James Bosa and Gordan)

Chiefs (Interesting to see if they fall back on O)

Steelers (If Ben gets hurt...toast)

Patriots (If old man Tom gets hurt they stink)

Colts (If Luck is out no way)

Saints at the dome only

Rams (Not the same team without elite Gurley)

Vikings (If Cousins plays well)

 

These teams I feel I can say with near 100 percent confidence are better than us.  That's it.  

 

But notice their caveats.  I think those are the elite but they are a bad break from being bad teams.  I like our chances if we had to turn to Barkley.  No not that we'll win the SB but I still think we can be competitive.

 

 

I'm not saying we're as good as them or better than 2/3 of the league.  I just think if we stay healthy we have just as good a shot as any team to win the WHOLE THING.

 

Obviously....I'm expecting several guys on this team to make huge leaps this season in order for me to be in this place of optimism.

 

 

Let's freaking go!!!!!!!!!!

 

I would just add the Eagles to this list...the rest is spot on IMO....

Edited August 22, 2019 by Iron Maiden

[row_33]

4 hours ago, HOUSE said:

 

I am always here to help

 

I forget a few when I try to list them

 

 

6 hours ago, Mark80 said:

 

Well, with that logic if you look at the Bills history you could say that we are not better than 25 of the teams!  The Steelers would not beat us with a home/home schedule twice with the current rosters.  In the last 2 years they've lost the best RB in the league, the best WR in the league and one of the best MLB in the league while the Rapist gets another year older.

 

didn’t mean for you to have a hairy spaz there

 

you need to calm down, you might regret it if you don’t 

 

A team that has barely a handful of losing seasons since 1972 is a good organization, it’s okay to acknowledge this....

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

4 hours ago, Chemical said:

 

Theres no reason to think the Bills are almost definitely better than the Jets.

 

That’s why I’m so excited for week one. Is Q Williams better than Oliver? Is Darnold better than Allen? Will Edmunds take the next step? Does that mean he’s better than Mosley? Which o line will be better? Will Morse play? Which wr corps is better?

A lot of parallels and new players on both sides 

I agree, atleast on the offensive side, there are many parallels. On Defense I just have Buffalo on a different level that the Jets.  

Aside from giving Buffalo the edge defensively,  I also think Gase was a poor hire and a bad head coach, where as I see McDermott as above average and has the team on the right trajectory.

[Playoffs?]

Until we actually prove otherwise, half the league is better than us. Gotta make something happen this year!

 

August is always the most exciting time to be a Bills fan...

[Tcali]

18 hours ago, HOUSE said:

 

 

 

 

 

I was looking at teams around the NFL, can you name 5 NFL teams  CLEARLY better then the Buffalo Bills. If the Buffalo Bills played the below teams twice ( home & away) the Bills would lose both. Maybe I am a BIG HOMER but I can't come up with 5.

 

Go for it......the Patriots, Steelers and Browns are not on my list

 

 

 

Arizona Cardinals
Atlanta Falcons
Baltimore Ravens
Carolina Panthers
Chicago Bears
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns
Dallas Cowboys
Denver Broncos
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Kansas City Chiefs
Los Angeles Chargers
Los Angeles Rams
Miami Dolphins
Minnesota Vikings
New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints
New York Giants
New York Jets
Oakland Raiders
Philadelphia Eagles
Pittsburgh Steelers
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tennessee Titans
Washington Redskins

 

 

there are very few good teams in the league...patriots,rams,chiefs. there are other teams better than buff but not by any significant clear margin.its a mediocre league.the QBing is mediocre exc for 4 old guys who should be in the senior leagues + mahomes and possibly mayfield

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

Patriots, Steelers, Chargers, Rams and Chiefs

[BigDingus]

Only 5? I'd put about 15-20 ahead of us easily. Homers (not using the term as an insult) will usually get themselves hyped like this the closer we get to regular season kicking off, typically making progressively more & more grandiose statements, predictions and expectations.

Year after year, reality again sets in, and the tidal wave of 10-12 win season predictions begin to look ridiculous. Until they actually do something in meaningful game conditions, I'm going off of what I saw them do last year combined with moderate expectations for each of the new additions to the team.

If the new players can stay on the field, they will at least bump the team up enough to help us get to a respectable 8-8 season. 9-7 would be a huge success, playoffs or not. But I think 8-8 would show solid improvement, probably limited by a young QB. 

[papazoid]

vegas says there are 24 teams better then the bills

[Mark80]

10 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

I forget a few when I try to list them

 

 

 

didn’t mean for you to have a hairy spaz there

 

you need to calm down, you might regret it if you don’t 

 

A team that has barely a handful of losing seasons since 1972 is a good organization, it’s okay to acknowledge this....

 

Oh, so you're the type of person who makes a terrible point, realizes they are a wrong, and then tells a perfectly calm person to "calm down" in order to rile them up instead of just admitting it.  Duly noted, cool.  Steelers didn't even make the playoffs last year buddy.  And that was with AB putting up 105 receptions and 15 TDs. 

 

Calmer than you are dude.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Mark80

[mannc]

"then"?

[GunnerBill]

Patriots

Chiefs

Cowboys

Rams

Saints

 

[Say When...]

9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Patriots

Chiefs

Cowboys

Rams

Saints

 

 

+

Colts

Bears

Eagles

Texans (bit of a reach)

Browns (i said it; i think they bring it together this year taste winning and then implode next year)

 

i'm optimistic the Bills will be better but there it more 'unknown' than 'known' on their success and that will swing speculation substantially so i'm grounding myself.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

12 hours ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

I agree, atleast on the offensive side, there are many parallels. On Defense I just have Buffalo on a different level that the Jets.  

Aside from giving Buffalo the edge defensively,  I also think Gase was a poor hire and a bad head coach, where as I see McDermott as above average and has the team on the right trajectory.

 

I’m curious as to why you would give Buffalo the edge defensively? Aside from being a Bills fan. 

They have some injuries but they have studs at every level. Adams, Mosely, and the Williams’ might be better than anyone we have. 

 

As for Gase, he has been hired as a head coach now twice because he worked with Peyton Manning. Simple case of QB making the coach look good. How sure are you that Darnold isn’t good?

10 hours ago, BigDingus said:

Only 5? I'd put about 15-20 ahead of us easily. Homers (not using the term as an insult) will usually get themselves hyped like this the closer we get to regular season kicking off, typically making progressively more & more grandiose statements, predictions and expectations.

Year after year, reality again sets in, and the tidal wave of 10-12 win season predictions begin to look ridiculous. Until they actually do something in meaningful game conditions, I'm going off of what I saw them do last year combined with moderate expectations for each of the new additions to the team.

If the new players can stay on the field, they will at least bump the team up enough to help us get to a respectable 8-8 season. 9-7 would be a huge success, playoffs or not. But I think 8-8 would show solid improvement, probably limited by a young QB. 

 

Yes, I saw the numerous playoff predictions before last season. But if you bring it up now, they will say it was only a handful of crazy people.  

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

2 hours ago, Chemical said:

 

I’m curious as to why you would give Buffalo the edge defensively? Aside from being a Bills fan. 

They have some injuries but they have studs at every level. Adams, Mosely, and the Williams’ might be better than anyone we have. 

 

As for Gase, he has been hired as a head coach now twice because he worked with Peyton Manning. Simple case of QB making the coach look good. How sure are you that Darnold isn’t good?

 

Yes, I saw the numerous playoff predictions before last season. But if you bring it up now, they will say it was only a handful of crazy people.  

Mosley isn’t very good in coverage and they lost Avery Williamson.   Brandon Copeland just got suspended 4 games. Their CBs aren’t as good or as deep. Adams is fine, But they don’t have a tandem like Hyde and Poyer who are both in their primes and familiar with each other and the scheme.

I see no holes on Buffalo’s Defense and think Edmunds will take the step towards being elite for years to come.

They are also without Herndon for the first 4 weeks which will hurt them.

 

The only place I give them a slight edge is at WR, but not by a whole lot,  the Bills DBs shouldnt have much issue shutting them down.

Obviously Bell is an elite back, but their OL is a big question mark, where Buffalo has good depth at RB, keeping fresh legs behind a bolstered OL.

 

The head coach issue is a pretty big deal.  Darnold could be pretty good... but that won’t negate bad coaching enough to mean anything unless he is out of this world.  Even then many times has a great QB like Phillip Rivers been on the outside looking in at the post season, despite being elite?  Or above average QBs like Stafford?

 

And who’s to say this Josh Allen kid doesn’t turn out to be some special??? The odds are the same for each QB.

 

Plus new coach, new scheme, lots of new faces combined with all the injuries and suspensions is hardly a recipe for success.

While Buffalo does have a good amount of new players, it’s year 3 of “the process” and players who have been around the last year or two should be much more comfortable schematically, and cut down on mental errors like missed assignments and stupid penalties. 

 

My main concern for Buffalo right now is both phases of the kicking game. We don’t want to deal with what Chicago did last season.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan

[row_33]

5 hours ago, Mark80 said:

 

Oh, so you're the type of person who makes a terrible point, realizes they are a wrong, and then tells a perfectly calm person to "calm down" in order to rile them up instead of just admitting it.  Duly noted, cool.  Steelers didn't even make the playoffs last year buddy.  And that was with AB putting up 105 receptions and 15 TDs. 

 

Calmer than you are dude.

 

huh

 

oh, not the first time you have been placed on ignore

 

for darn good reason.... why did i let you out of that prison...

 

 

Edited August 22, 2019 by row_33

[BuffaloButt]

On 8/21/2019 at 4:15 AM, HOUSE said:

 

 

 

 

 

I was looking at teams around the NFL, can you name 5 NFL teams  CLEARLY better then the Buffalo Bills. If the Buffalo Bills played the below teams twice ( home & away) the Bills would lose both. Maybe I am a BIG HOMER but I can't come up with 5.

 

Go for it......the Patriots, Steelers and Browns are not on my list

 

 

 

Arizona Cardinals
Atlanta Falcons
Baltimore Ravens
Carolina Panthers
Chicago Bears
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns
Dallas Cowboys
Denver Broncos
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Kansas City Chiefs
Los Angeles Chargers
Los Angeles Rams
Miami Dolphins
Minnesota Vikings
New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints
New York Giants
New York Jets
Oakland Raiders
Philadelphia Eagles
Pittsburgh Steelers
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tennessee Titans
Washington Redskins

 

 

I love your optimism but I hate getting my Hope's up too high only to be crushed when the wheels fall off!  I feel like we are a top 10 team but we'll see pretty quickly.  If we aren't 4-1 or 5-1 then it's not as good as we hope.  Our early schedule has some very winnable games.  

On 8/21/2019 at 4:38 AM, ShadyBillsFan said:

19-0 Baby!!!  

 

em all

 

stop you're whining aboot spelling and grammer 

Yeah, pobody's nefect!!?

[Ga boy]

19 hours ago, BigDingus said:

Only 5? I'd put about 15-20 ahead of us easily. Homers (not using the term as an insult) will usually get themselves hyped like this the closer we get to regular season kicking off, typically making progressively more & more grandiose statements, predictions and expectations.

Year after year, reality again sets in, and the tidal wave of 10-12 win season predictions begin to look ridiculous. Until they actually do something in meaningful game conditions, I'm going off of what I saw them do last year combined with moderate expectations for each of the new additions to the team.

If the new players can stay on the field, they will at least bump the team up enough to help us get to a respectable 8-8 season. 9-7 would be a huge success, playoffs or not. But I think 8-8 would show solid improvement, probably limited by a young QB. 

There's no bigger optimist on the planet than me, but when it comes to my Bills, the last 7 or so years I have defaulted to show me.  I see that they play 13 teams this year that range from the best to the worst, but my Bills could lose to all of them on any given Sunday and even every Sunday.  Especially if Josh turns out to play like Jay Cutler.  I hope they don't and they get 10 wins.  When it comes to naming 5 better teams, it could be the 13 we play.  Show me!!

 

[LSHMEAB]

I'm not saying the Jets are better; I think we're comparable. I will say that the Gase mocking is a bit foolish. The guy had a "decent" record in Miami with Ryan Tannehill, Matt Moore, and Jay Cutler at QB. If Darnold is really good, all the offseason shenanigans and crazy eyes won't really matter.

[row_33]

On 8/21/2019 at 12:55 PM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

They have a notoriously bad secondary (outside of adams, who is just OK) and just lost a starting LB. Mosley is a two down linebacker. This is true in the context of the NFLs passing league. I cannot imagine a scenario where their defense is in the same tier as ours, the second DVOA defense in the league. 

 

Their O-Line is a mess. They brought in a retired Center to start for them. By any measure, they were as bad if not worse than the Bills last year.  This year, we have brought a number of vets, including one of the top Centers in the league. 

 

QB and WR are a wash. 

 

Bell is an amazing back, but hasn't played in a full year, is on the verge of being out of his prime, and playing behind a substantially worse OL than he had at PItt.  I don't care how good Bell is, with that line, he will not be the same player. 

 

I cant wait to bet the Bills +3. Edit: I guess it is 1.5 now.  

 

 

Jets are scrappy and always totally steal a few wins each year that were entirely undeserved if given a chance....

 

 

[eball]

4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Jets are scrappy and always totally steal a few wins each year that were entirely undeserved if given a chance....

 

 

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration.  Any given NFL team may have one of those types of wins each year, but it basically comes down to talent and coaching.  I think there's an argument that the Bills and Jets have similar overall talent, but in my opinion the Bills' coaching staff is significantly better.

[row_33]

16 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration.  Any given NFL team may have one of those types of wins each year, but it basically comes down to talent and coaching.  I think there's an argument that the Bills and Jets have similar overall talent, but in my opinion the Bills' coaching staff is significantly better.

 

yes, the Jets are totally useless, no sense in the Bills even putting on their helmets for this one

 

a cakewalk road game already in the books, Bills 1 Win 0 Losses in the standings

 

 

[Reed83HOF]

10 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

I'm not saying the Jets are better; I think we're comparable. I will say that the Gase mocking is a bit foolish. The guy had a "decent" record in Miami with Ryan Tannehill, Matt Moore, and Jay Cutler at QB. If Darnold is really good, all the offseason shenanigans and crazy eyes won't really matter.

 

[eball]

2 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

yes, the Jets are totally useless, no sense in the Bills even putting on their helmets for this one

 

a cakewalk road game already in the books, Bills 1 Win 0 Losses in the standings

 

 

 

Did I say or imply any of this?

[Big Blitz]

On 8/21/2019 at 5:10 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

Chargers (not without James Bosa and Gordan)

Chiefs (Interesting to see if they fall back on O)

Steelers (If Ben gets hurt...toast)

Patriots (If old man Tom gets hurt they stink)

Colts (If Luck is out no way)

Saints at the dome only

Rams (Not the same team without elite Gurley)

Vikings (If Cousins plays well)

 

These teams I feel I can say with near 100 percent confidence are better than us.  That's it.  

 

But notice their caveats.  I think those are the elite but they are a bad break from being bad teams.  I like our chances if we had to turn to Barkley.  No not that we'll win the SB but I still think we can be competitive.

 

 

I'm not saying we're as good as them or better than 2/3 of the league.  I just think if we stay healthy we have just as good a shot as any team to win the WHOLE THING.

 

Obviously....I'm expecting several guys on this team to make huge leaps this season in order for me to be in this place of optimism.

 

 

Let's freaking go!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

1 down.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 8/22/2019 at 11:14 AM, Say When... said:

 

+

Colts

 

 

nnnnope.

 

[Bing Bong]

On 8/21/2019 at 7:10 AM, transient said:

 

Weren’t those the instructions; name 5 better teams then the Bills? We’re #6 by default. 

 

On 8/21/2019 at 7:06 AM, SoCal Deek said:

Wouldn’t the list make us a top SIX team? ?

 

On 8/21/2019 at 7:14 AM, SoCal Deek said:

Yes those were the instructions. But somebody asked if he really thought the Bills were a Top FIVE team. This is starting to sound like a PSAT math word problem: “If two trains leave the station....” ?

Sorry this is bugging me lol. When someone says "name x teams better than.." they're challenging you to see if you can come up with x teams better.. as in there are NOT x teams better. Like if I were to say name one player better than Pat Mahomes last year. It's perfectly fine. The contention is Mahomes was the best player, Bills are top 5. ?

 

Whatever. We're not top 5. Saints, Patriots, Rams, Chiefs, Eagles.. and more. Although I like us in the AFC seeding. NFC has looked a lot deeper.

 

Also OP.. we know all the teams in the NFL. No 32 teams list necessary pls. I know we're stupid but this is insulting

Edited August 25, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P

[GreggTX]

Go look at the power rankings at NFL.com. They list more than 20 teams better than us. Let's just hope we can improve this season and finally become relevant again.

Edited August 25, 2019 by GreggTX

[transient]

5 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Sorry this is bugging me lol. When someone says "name x teams better than.." they're challenging you to see if you can come up with x teams better.. as in there are NOT x teams better. Like if I were to say name one player better than Pat Mahomes last year. It's perfectly fine.

 

Whatever. We're not top 5. Saints, Patriots, Rams, Chiefs, Eagles.. and more

 
Except the OP didn't say "than," he said "Name 5 teams better then the Buffalo Bills"... therefore #6.

[Bing Bong]

1 minute ago, transient said:

 
Except the OP didn't say "than," he said "Name 5 teams better then the Buffalo Bills"... therefore #6.

Haha fair enough. Words matter when writing.

On 8/21/2019 at 4:10 PM, Big Blitz said:

Let's freaking go!!!!!!!!!!

LEEEEEETS

 

GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Edited August 25, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P

[GreggTX]

On 8/22/2019 at 10:14 AM, Say When... said:

 

+

Colts

Bears

Eagles

Texans (bit of a reach)

Browns (i said it; i think they bring it together this year taste winning and then implode next year)

 

i'm optimistic the Bills will be better but there it more 'unknown' than 'known' on their success and that will swing speculation substantially so i'm grounding myself.

+

Seahawks

Packers

Vikings

Chargers

Ravens

Jets (but it could be close)

 

-

Colts (Now that Luck has retired, we'll have to wait and see.)

 

[Pbomb]

I can’t think of any