Is Tyree Jackson Practice Squad worthy?

[PromoTheRobot]

I'm a big UB fan but TJ6 is not making a case for himself. Would not shocked be if he's cut and not added to Bills PS. (But he'll end up on someone's PS just because. Patriots maybe?)

Edited August 18, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[bigK14094]

5 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

If the Pats' 3rd stringer, Stidham, somehow doesn't make the 53, the Bills should steal him. He's looked poised this preseason and he fits the system. Pretty sure he'll make their team, though.

One of those guys on Carolina threw accurate balls as well.  I would consider signing him if the opportunity arose.

1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said:

He should have never of left college. Also you don't need a QB for practice squad.

Agreed, staying was better for him.  He had inflated ideas of his capability.  Needed counseling he didn't get.  Or, would not listen more likely in such a young man.  I disagree that you don't need a practice squad QB.  If you loose one, you need a backup that knows the playbook.  I don't want to see any more games QBed by a guy who signed 11 days ago  (yes, that is what Barkley did)  Your third guy needs to be here, not on the street somewhere else.  Raiding another PS doesn't work very well, as the other team often signs them to the 53 to prevent them from leaving their team.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

If there was ever a football player that should have stayed for his senior year it was Tyree Jackson, he got some real real bad advice.

 

I think his dad was a big part of that decision. Dad was not a fan of UB coaching staff. I think Tyree was eligible to transfer without sitting a year. Surprised he didn't try to join a P5 program.

[djp14150]

8 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

So far, it looks like Tyree Jackson is only standing out in a bad way. Whilst it's a great local story I struggle to see them putting him on the PS, with multiple WRs and O line who seem to actually have a better chance of moving from the PS I just wonder if they let him go. 

 

 

He is a PS player who coukd be turned to a TE who can do some web pkays.

[Boca BIlls]

23 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

One of those guys on Carolina threw accurate balls as well.  I would consider signing him if the opportunity arose.

Agreed, staying was better for him.  He had inflated ideas of his capability.  Needed counseling he didn't get.  Or, would not listen more likely in such a young man.  I disagree that you don't need a practice squad QB.  If you loose one, you need a backup that knows the playbook.  I don't want to see any more games QBed by a guy who signed 11 days ago  (yes, that is what Barkley did)  Your third guy needs to be here, not on the street somewhere else.  Raiding another PS doesn't work very well, as the other team often signs them to the 53 to prevent them from leaving their team.

You proved yourself wrong in the post so I will just quote it. 

 

If you're going to the thrift guy you are screwed no matter what.

Edited August 18, 2019 by Boca BIlls

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

I think he is PS worthy, but I do not think he would be who they bring up if another QB is needed.

 

He really needs reps and study to become a better QB, but he is just not getting that now.  

 

We we will see how it goes - not sure if someone else shakes free that they had their eye on - if they keep him, but most QBs that are cut would prefer to PS on the team that cut them rather than have to learn a new system and I do not see the Bills using a 53 roster spot for a 3rd QB.

 

....who has the greater PS upside, Wade or Tyree?...............

[billsbackto81]

No, he's not an NFL caliber QB on any level.

We picked up Barkley off the scrap heap and he's 10X the QB Jackson is. That alone should tell you something. If at any time we need our 3rd string QB to bail us out during the season then the season is in essence over. 

[klos63]

42 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....who has the greater PS upside, Wade or Tyree?...............

both are long shots. Negligible upside. Wade has shown a couple great plays, but not sure those translate into the regular season in real game situations with starters and such.

[qwksilver]

As stated there will be much better QB options after all the NFL final cuts are made. Jackson should call Logan Thomas as see what is involved with switching to TE. I'd keep him as a TE on the PS if he wanted to switch. He is athletically gifted.   

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, klos63 said:

both are long shots. Negligible upside. Wade has shown a couple great plays, but not sure those translate into the regular season in real game situations with starters and such.

...spot on call IMO........didn't Greenspan call it "irrational exuberance"?.......but then again, it is pretty exciting to watch a foreign rugby kid light it up.....the Wade kid is singular I think from the Rugby world......but look at the influx of PK'ers from the elite soccer world who made a helluva living in the NFL......

[Gugny]

If Tyree Jackson didn't go to Buffalo, I don't think anyone here would want him anywhere near the practice squad, let alone the 53.

[TigerJ]

Jackson's play on the field certainly has not earned him a spot on the practice squad, but I'm not at all certain what Buffalo will do.  From all accounts he's bright, a hard worker with a great attitude, to go with outstanding athleticism, arm strength and size.  All those positive attributes could outweigh his performance on the field, which I don't think means a great deal to the Bills' decision makers at this point.  It may boil down to who else becomes available to sign to the practice squad.

[White Linen]

Remember some of the off season questions that were something to the effect of "could we have a QB controversy if Jackson lights it up"?

[Bangarang]

Why do we even need a QB on the PS squad? 

[LeGOATski]

3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

So you want to “steal” the Pats 3rd stringer - are you putting him on the 53 and cutting another good player for a 3rd string QB. 

 

If not why would Stidham choose the Bills PS over the Pats?

Yeah, he'd definitely go on the 53 as the third stringer. Because I hate the Pats.

[DCofNC]

If he is willing and there's a spot open, I'd take him as a TE project for the year.

[Mountain Man]

5 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

If he is willing and there's a spot open, I'd take him as a TE project for the year.

Why? We already have enough TEs. 

[Simstim]

He was just so, so bad yesterday.

 

He did exactly what he shouldn't have for a player with his traits. Considering he has had all of camp to at least get some training, he looked like he had learned nothing. And though I know next to nothing of his time in college - watched a highlights vid and that is it - I can't imagine he looked as bad as he did in the game.

 

The badly timed, ill thought out wobbly duck interception was dire enough, but his attempt at a touch pass was so off target it left little room for us to have hope on his part -  and that's ignoring that dobbler to Wade that would have giving him a second TD in two games.

 

Physical talents are pointless if you can't use them. I don't know enough about him to really accuse him of not being that smart, but he just didn't look any use at all and what had he learned?

 

And yes, I worry for the backup wideouts. I was looking forward to see if Sills V could play, but the evidence is far to scarce at the moment.

 

Maybe he'll come good against Detroit. I doubt it, but I could be wrong.

Edited August 18, 2019 by Simstim

[DCofNC]

2 minutes ago, Mountain Man said:

Why? We already have enough TEs. 

Because he's a mountain of a man and has great athletic abilities, we have TEs, but none that put the fear in to anyone. If he can turn into an Antonio Gates, I am sure we could find a place for him over the guys we have right now.  Knox is the only one who is close to the athlete he is, I'd take a shot.

[Mountain Man]

1 minute ago, DCofNC said:

 If he can turn into an Antonio Gates

And the probability of that is? 

[RussellDopeland]

12 minutes ago, Mountain Man said:

Why? We already have enough TEs. 

And they all suck?

[MAJBobby]

He doesn’t even look like a PS player at this point. He should have stayed in school. There are better QBs that are going to get cut to put in our PS. 

[lookylookyherecomescookie]

8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Its worth keeping him around. If he develops we can trade him for picks or assets.  If not maybe a position change.

 

 

if he develops, you keep him. He won't

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Develops possibly into a 3rd string QB? 

 

 

 

maybe

 

 

8 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said:

if he develops, you keep him. He won't

 

Why keep him, he would just sit on the bench.

 

Lots of teams traded their backups for big picks, we should too.

 

 

 

 

[zow2]

4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

If there was ever a football player that should have stayed for his senior year it was Tyree Jackson, he got some real real bad advice.

 

No doubt. But at the time he declared he was on a lot of draft boards anywhere from 3rd to 7th round.  His advisors probably told him go now, or you risk not being drafted next season when the QB pool is deeper and UB will have a worse WR crew to elevate him.  So he rolled the dice and lost.  Obviously, in hindsight he could have stayed and sharpened his skills and still been an UDFA in 2020.  Now he’s likely to be cut and have no football this season. Not good

[lookylookyherecomescookie]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

maybe

 

 

 

Why keep him, he would just sit on the bench.

 

Lots of teams traded their backups for big picks, we should too.

 

 

 

 

While I appreciate and respect the response, I  believe this is truly the definition of moot point

[Victory Formation]

I would say so. We got Barkley until 2021 and at that point, with the way he’s playing, some team is going to pick him up.

 

Love me some Barkley, but he’ll get a chance to compete somewhere and will move onto greener pastures. Our cup is overflowing at the QB position but it won’t last forever.

Edited August 18, 2019 by Sunshower

[TigerJ]

On 8/18/2019 at 12:02 PM, Bangarang said:

Why do we even need a QB on the PS squad? 

Normally, if you're keeping just 2 QBs on the active roster, you like to have a QB on your PS that knows your offensive system so that if your starter goes down for what could be an extended period, you can activate your PS QB to be a temporary backup, and bail the team out in case of injury to your backup.  Tyree is so raw that he really doesn't give you that security blanket.  Thus, keeping him on the PS is a luxury they would only do if they were convinced his awful preseason performances are meaningless and he really does have a very high ceiling if they can develop him properly.

Edited August 20, 2019 by TigerJ

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

His field Vision and accuracy are very bad. We could easily pick up someone better or grab a QB stashed on another teams PS. 

[lookylookyherecomescookie]

Speaking for sentient beings everywhere

 

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[DRA3196]

5 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

Is Tyree any better than a free agent? If it got really bad, wouldnt you be better off just picking up a Landry Jones or A.N.Other as a free agent? 

At this point I think he is better than any FA QB, but only because he knows the offense. I would expect the Bills to look for a QB they can put on the practice squad once teams start cutting players. In no way do I expect Jackson to make it to the PS unless he plays lights out these last two games. I hope that Mcb learned from last years fiasco and have a plan in place before they cut him. A 3rd string player is only 2 plays away from being expected to perform.

[Rochesterfan]

3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....who has the greater PS upside, Wade or Tyree?...............

 

 

I think both are huge long shots and there is probably room enough for both on the PS.  Especially as Wade gets an extra spot.

[Augie]

Too soon to say, but certainly NOT looking good for even the PS. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

 

I think both are huge long shots and there is probably room enough for both on the PS.  Especially as Wade gets an extra spot.

 

...doesn't Wade give us an 11th PS spot?......

Edited August 18, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[BullBuchanan]

3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

No, he's not an NFL caliber QB on any level.

We picked up Barkley off the scrap heap and he's 10X the QB Jackson is. That alone should tell you something. If at any time we need our 3rd string QB to bail us out during the season then the season is in essence over. 

The difference is Barkley was talked about as a potential #1 overall pick prior to his final season. They were worlds apart in development and expectations coming out of college. Jackson was pretty heavily talked about as a day 2 pick. The fact that he went undrafted was kind of a shock, even  if it doesn't look like it now.

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Why do we even need a QB on the PS squad? 

You don't but it would be nice having a quarterback who knew the playbook in case Allen goes down and Barkley needs a backup.  Last year we had to scramble for Anderson and Barkley.  Those type of QB's may not be available this year.

[lookylookyherecomescookie]

10 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

You don't but it would be nice having a quarterback who knew the playbook in case Allen goes down and Barkley needs a backup.  Last year we had to scramble for Anderson and Barkley.  Those type of QB's may not be available this year.

At this point, one of the wide receivers or running backs on the roster would probably be a better back-up than tyree.  Question, is it pronounced tie'-ree or tuh-ree'?

[That's No Moon]

I don't know that Tyree gets picked up in the XFL.

[Doc Brown]

5 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said:

At this point, one of the wide receivers or running backs on the roster would probably be a better back-up than tyree.  Question, is it pronounced tie'-ree or tuh-ree'?

That's why you search for free agent cuts around the league who are eligible to be on a practice squad.

[JESSEFEFFER]

Maybe someone already mentioned this but a practice squad QB usually runs the scout team during game week practice.   I question whether he'd be any good at prepping our defense and giving them a decent look at what they will be facing.  You have to learn the base offense of the opponent and execute it with enough competence to test them all within a matter of hours.   If he can't do that then they probably should move on.  It was an effort worth making and maybe he can turn this around since he might still get the bulk of game 4.

 

Also, he should be playing well enough to give the WRs a chance to show what they can do.  That hasn't happened either.  I think Chris Brown said something to the effect that Duke Williams had been slow to learn the offense.  They probably want him to know more than 1 WR spot.  He should do everything they need of him to play with Barkley.