Baker Mayfield thought the Patriots would trade up to draft him

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

a few things:

 

1. Don't shoot the messenger.   
2. I saw a headline,
3. I posted it. 
4. Someone suggested I start a thread and
5. I did. 

 

 

a heptad of responses:

           a. I saw a thread

           b. I read the comments in the original post

           c. I read the article that was linked

           d. I questioned the connection between the article and the comments made about it

           e. I stated my point of view, while also taking a tongue-in-cheek stab at BM's douchiness, by posting on a message board designed for exactly that

           f.  if a messenger leads me to infer unrelated things about whatever it is they're delivering

           g. bang

 

[Doc]

The Cheaters trade up to #2 for him? 

[YoloinOhio]

Win games (against a decent team), then talk.  It’s like white noise now, he yaps so much. If the highlight of your season (as described to annoying Mina Kimes)  is beating that carcass of a Bengals team that was lying around at the end of 2018 (Jeff Driskel at QB!) you need to get your ***** together. 

Edited July 18, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Another Fan]

I like his swagger, it’s something the Browns can feed off.   My concern for him though is him staying focused.  

[BuffaloMatt]

6 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Baker Mayfield thought the Patriots would trade up to draft him

 

OK.  I was going to leave this buried in the generic Around the NFL thread but after the comments it seems this may be a HOT topic 

 

 

 

Is Baker being a douchebag or not?  

He's holding a grudge against Hue ...  after less than half a season?  

 

Why? Because he let Tyrod start the season for the Browns?  

Douchebag for sure.

[dollars 2 donuts]

5 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

I am just glad the Patriots didn't get him.  If they did, that dynasty would go on for another 15 years.

 

 

Hap, just wait for it.  it is going to be the Colts all over again.

 

The Pats last season with Brady will be about 11-5, 12-4.  The next season without they will be even worse than what they should be.  They will go from being AFC East Champs to literally being the worst team in the League, almost inexplicably, at 2-14.  They will get the first pick and low and behold it won't just be a QB, but rather a generational type talent that is un-denied by all.  Then, this rookie will...inexplicably...be just good enough to take the previous years 2-14 team to 13-3 and home field advantage all the way through the playoffs.

 

...they will be bad for one single season.

 

I hate life.

[CSBill]

BM only had one (1) win against a winning team last year (of the 7) = Ho Hum

[Happy]

16 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Hap, just wait for it.  it is going to be the Colts all over again.

 

The Pats last season with Brady will be about 11-5, 12-4.  The next season without they will be even worse than what they should be.  They will go from being AFC East Champs to literally being the worst team in the League, almost inexplicably, at 2-14.  They will get the first pick and low and behold it won't just be a QB, but rather a generational type talent that is un-denied by all.  Then, this rookie will...inexplicably...be just good enough to take the previous years 2-14 team to 13-3 and home field advantage all the way through the playoffs.

 

...they will be bad for one single season.

 

I hate life.

 

How many times can a team catch lightning in a bottle?  They may have (correctly) figured that Brady would be good, but they couldn't have seen this run.

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

How many times can a team catch lightning in a bottle?  They may have (correctly) figured that Brady would be good, but they couldn't have seen this run.

 

They had no idea that Brady could even make it in the league.  You don't take a guy in the late-6th round, much less from a premier college program, if you think he'll turn out to be even a backup QB.

 

As for replacing him, I agree with you.  We'll see if it's that easy.

Edited July 18, 2019 by Doc

[Malazan]

Baker mayfield thinks a lot of things. I wish I didn't have to hear about each and every one of them.

[Rocket94]

Dawson Knox said the same thing!

[North Buffalo]

5 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Oh boy ....  

Baker Mayfield’s defense of Odell Beckham tears down Giants ...

 

“He’s here to work, and he wants to be surrounded by people who love and support him and allow him to be himself,” Mayfield said. “He’s here to play in front of fans who actually care, who will actually show up to every game and pack the stadium and love him for who he is.”

 

Oh OBJ 

 

“I just felt with the Giants I was just stuck at a place that wasn’t working for me anymore,” Beckham told Complex UK recently. “I felt like I wasn’t going to be able to reach my full potential there — mentally, physically, spiritually, everything I felt capable of doing, I just couldn’t see it happening there. So I think allowing me to be in an environment where I can be myself and give it a different approach, I feel like my football will benefit.”

 

Quit being an asshat and the mental and spiritual growth will come 

He was targeted a ridiculous over 450 times in 3 years, never starting 16 games because of "ailments" and had only a 50 catch %,  guy needs to learn to hold on to the ball, especially in crunch time he is severely not prime time.  Watch BO throw Baker under the bus as soon as BO fails.  Watched him too long in NYC... called him garbage time.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

He was targeted a ridiculous over 450 times in 3 years, never starting 16 games because of "ailments" and had only a 50 catch %,  guy needs to learn to hold on to the ball, especially in crunch time he is severely not prime time.  Watch BO throw Baker under the bus as soon as BO fails.  Watched him too long in NYC... called him garbage time.

OBJ=BO.     ? 

[jethro_tull]

8 hours ago, transient said:

 

Two things:

 

1) I fail to see what this report has to do with the Hue Jackson nonsense, or why it would even be considered controversial.  This bland, vague article doesn't even quote Mayfield directly, it just states that up until at least the day before the draft he didn't know the Browns were picking him, and that he thought the Pats*** would trade up to 2 per his agent if he didn't get drafted first overall.

 

2) It's Baker Mayfield, so while there's is nothing inherently douchy in the Yahoo report, of course he's a being douchebag.  It's like asking if Chance the Snapper was being a reptile or not when they found him hanging out in Humbolt Park in Chi town.

two things

1. BM has the perfect initials.  

2. I am so happy he is not a Bill.  

[Koko78]

12 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

His mouth is bigger than his arm. 

To be fair though I’d imagine the guy is hassled by reporters 24/7 and asked a million questions it’s probably easy to get trapped into controversial quotes sometimes.

I still don’t like him 

 

He's the same guy who admitted having an enemy list of journalists who wrote negative stories about him.

[Fan in Chicago]

13 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Baker Mayfield thought the Patriots would trade up to draft him

 

OK.  I was going to leave this buried in the generic Around the NFL thread but after the comments it seems this may be a HOT topic 

 

 

 

Is Baker being a douchebag or not?  

He's holding a grudge against Hue ...  after less than half a season?  

 

Why? Because he let Tyrod start the season for the Browns?  

How does this:

 

"Mayfield told ESPN that before draft day, he didn’t know he was the Browns’ pick — and that he actually thought the Browns were going to pass on him, and the Patriots would trade up to take him at No. 2 overall."

 

bring about a discussion of him possibly being a douche bag? He did not say he wanted to be drafted by them. In fact, he is being marginally modest by saying he didnt expect to be picked #1

Edited July 19, 2019 by Fan in Chicago

[formerlyofCtown]

14 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Baker Mayfield thought the Patriots would trade up to draft him

 

OK.  I was going to leave this buried in the generic Around the NFL thread but after the comments it seems this may be a HOT topic 

 

 

 

Is Baker being a douchebag or not?  

He's holding a grudge against Hue ...  after less than half a season?  

 

Why? Because he let Tyrod start the season for the Browns?  

Baker is a douche definitely.  He is also a pretty good QB so he is aloud to be a douche.  I cant wait to see Cleveland pick high in the draft again after that team implodes.  They should have never traded for OBJ.  Far too many egos on that team.

[formerlyofCtown]

53 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

How does this:

 

"Mayfield told ESPN that before draft day, he didn’t know he was the Browns’ pick — and that he actually thought the Browns were going to pass on him, and the Patriots would trade up to take him at No. 2 overall."

 

bring about a discussion of him possibly being a douche bag? He did not say he wanted to be drafted by them. In fact, he is being marginally modest by saying he didnt expect to be picked #1

It doesnt, however Baker being a douche equates to Baker being a douche.  He is a little too cocky after only one season.   I do think he will have a great career though.

[BruceVilanch]

Didn't like him at first and I still think he needs some humility from time to time, but the kid can ball.

[TtownBillsFan]

I'm probably the biggest Baker Mayfield fan on this whole site, as I'm a die-hard SOONERS fan.  So yes, I was hoping we got him, however it had to happen.  I knew it probably wasn't going to happen, and hated it when we weren't able to trade up to get him.

 

Being in Sooner-land (blessed be!), I got to watch every game he ever played in (including while at Tech).  The guy is NOT a douchebag.  He's an EXTREME competitor, and makes note of every slight against him.   He has that win-at-any-cost mentality, and sometimes that can get one in trouble (the planting the flag was bad optics, but for good reason, if you know the story behind it).

 

I wish we'd have been able to get him, but hopefully JA makes that a moot point   (and I think he will!!!)  But I think Baker will make Cleveland fans happy for a couple decades.

 

I don't buy a jersey every year, but I have my authentic blue Allen jersey ready to go!  I think those two, along with Mahomes, will be the QB triplet that we talk about for the next 10-15 years, like we have Brees, Rivers, and Brady the last decade+.

Edited July 19, 2019 by TtownBillsFan
typed Phillips, corrected to Phillip Rivers

[njbuff]

There are just TOO many roses being thrown the Browns way when they haven't accomplished a DAMN thing.

 

The Browns have a few combustible personalities that can bring that entire team down.

 

They had better watch themselves.

[Dr.Sack]

Mayfield sucks 

[StHustle]

5 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Baker is a douche definitely.  He is also a pretty good QB so he is aloud to be a douche.  I cant wait to see Cleveland pick high in the draft again after that team implodes.  They should have never traded for OBJ.  Far too many egos on that team.

 

I wouldn't bet on that. They have a very talented roster and a good coach. Expect a dog fight (no pun intended) when we play them.

 

[Chandler#81]

18 hours ago, Bills2ref said:

I feel he’s just being petty for no reason. I watched Hard Knocks and sure, Hue sucked as a head coach. Never should have been given the second year. But does Baker assume that’s Hue’s decision to make? It’s not like Hue hired himself. How about just being grateful a team took you first overall. Then, he stares down Hue and trash talks him for going to a “rival team” as if Hue had job offers from 31 teams after being canned from the Browns for being the worst head coach in NFL history. Just a lot of pettiness for no reason. 

He’s just petty and dumb enough to say what he’s thinking at the moment. That’s why reporters flock to him asking piercing questions. They know they’ll get great copy from the simpleton. He thinks he’s popularly glib. The press look at him as hungry piranha finding raw flesh. This won’t end well, imo.

[H2o]

I said it before the draft last year and I stick to it now. Baker is that dude. He will be the Browns franchise QB for years to come. Will he ever be Brady, Manning, Rodgers, or Brees elite type? Probably not, but he will be a Matt Ryan or Russell Wilson level QB. 

[formerlyofCtown]

2 hours ago, StHustle said:

 

I wouldn't bet on that. They have a very talented roster and a good coach. Expect a dog fight (no pun intended) when we play them.

 

Oh they have a good coach.  You know this from all his time as a HC in the NFL.  He is an unknown and you are correct about the talent level.  If he can handle those personalities that have already come at each other through media then it wont be hard to win with that roster.  After all look what Gregg Williams did as interim.  They have added to it since.

5 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

Mayfield sucks 

Dont care for his personality off the field, but this statement had better be a troll job.

Edited July 19, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[george c]

So much talk, so little success.

he is setting himself up for a Brown’s type of humiliation..

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

9 hours ago, jethro_tull said:

two things

1. BM has the perfect initials.  

2. I am so happy he is not a Bill.  

1. 
2.  

9 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

How does this:

 

"Mayfield told ESPN that before draft day, he didn’t know he was the Browns’ pick — and that he actually thought the Browns were going to pass on him, and the Patriots would trade up to take him at No. 2 overall."

 

bring about a discussion of him possibly being a douche bag? He did not say he wanted to be drafted by them. In fact, he is being marginally modest by saying he didnt expect to be picked #1

As I stated  ...   I heard differing opinions and that it was worthy of discussion.   Thus far the hunch seems to be right.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

6 hours ago, TtownBillsFan said:

He's an EXTREME competitor, and makes note of every slight against him.   He has that win-at-any-cost mentality, and sometimes that can get one in trouble (the planting the flag was bad optics, but for good reason, if you know the story behind it).

 

A mental note for motivation or a written note to be crossed off after some type of vindication?   

 

Would petty be better than douchey?   LOL     just kidding 

 

P.S.    Josh looks like an EXTREME competitor too.   I don't see too many antics from him.   

 

The good question that was asked ...  What effect will all of this preseasons hype have on him?     We'll see in the next 6 months.

 

Some media heads are crowning him King of the North! 

Edited July 19, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[billsfan1959]

19 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I used to think he was a giant (or little douche). But he is really good, really good.  He’s the next Brees.  

He can actually be both. I think he has achieved the first and has the potential to achieve the second...

[SoTier]

19 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

 

ALL NEWS MEDIA sucks nowadays. It's all sensationalism 

 

Yes journalism was soooo much better in the "good old days" when reporters didn't report news that didn't reflect well on powerful politicians (as in it was well known among the Washington press corps that Kennedy was bringing call girls into the White House ... at the height of the Cold War no less) or national news media persistently ignored violence, including lynchings, against blacks in the South or when media empire builders like Hearst stirred up war fever against Spain in the run up to the Spanish American War.  

 

The news media has ALWAYS been about sellling newspapers or advertising space, so it has promoted some stories, suppressed others, and even made up some news as publishers deemed necessary to advance their motivations.

[1ManRaid]

 

On 7/18/2019 at 12:39 PM, YoloinOhio said:

They had two firsts 

 

On 7/18/2019 at 1:06 PM, Aussie Joe said:

 

Two low firsts..23 and 31... 

 

Giving up a hell of a lot more to get to number 2...

 

There was speculation of what the Bills( they had two firsts as well)  had to give up to get from 12 to 2 and it was insane...Doubt it was possible for  the Patriots  to able to get there..

Yeah, what Aussie said.  I vaguely remember at the time thinking the Patriots were just too far down the order to make a move.  Moving up 20+ spots in the first round is exponentially more difficult than in later rounds.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

23 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

He's the same guy who admitted having an enemy list of journalists who wrote negative stories about him.

Who?  Mayfield?  Or Nixon?

[Alphadawg7]

On 7/18/2019 at 6:03 AM, ShadyBillsFan said:

Baker Mayfield thought the Patriots would trade up to draft him

 

OK.  I was going to leave this buried in the generic Around the NFL thread but after the comments it seems this may be a HOT topic 

 

 

 

Is Baker being a douchebag or not?  

He's holding a grudge against Hue ...  after less than half a season?  

 

Why? Because he let Tyrod start the season for the Browns?  

 

I dont see where or how he is being a deuchebag, how any of that relates to Hue, etc.  

 

All he said was he was not aware the Browns were going to draft him and he clearly had info that suggested the Pats had potential interest in trading up for him.  I am failing to see how there is even a sliver of anything here that would even remotely suggest anything he said was him being a "deuchebag".  And I am even more baffled how anyone could even ask if this some kind of grudge he is holding, I mean all he said was he didnt know the Browns were going to take him and had thought Pats were gonna make a move.  

 

IMO, these are some far fetched questions you are asking here off of really nothing.  

[Augie]

Baker seems like exactly the type of guy Baker thinks Belichick would love. 

[Ol Dirty B]

On 7/18/2019 at 12:20 PM, Mrbojanglezs said:

 

ALL NEWS MEDIA sucks nowadays. It's all sensationalism 

 

He volunteered it. I don't really feel strongly one way or the other on him. However, the guy agreed to do an ESPN feature and just said this. It wasn't a mandatory press conference with the media where someone asked "Where do you think you'd be if Cleveland didn't draft you number 1?"

 

And even in that case he could have easily said something along the lines of I don't have to worry about that because I was drafted undeservingly so number 1, and in the right place.

 

Instead he spouts off at the mouth like he usually does.

 

So many of you hate the media because you simply have no idea what you're talking about. Their is a reason why they teach journalists to write at a 3rd grade reading level, and it's not for the 3rd graders.

 

And on this Pats would have traded up to get me crap. The giants had plenty of offers, as soon as the Pats call, and I don't think they had enough to give up. Don't you think they're calling all the QB needy teams saying the Pats want to trade up for a QB but we don't know who and get surely a better offer? It was never happening.

21 hours ago, TtownBillsFan said:

I'm probably the biggest Baker Mayfield fan on this whole site, as I'm a die-hard SOONERS fan.  So yes, I was hoping we got him, however it had to happen.  I knew it probably wasn't going to happen, and hated it when we weren't able to trade up to get him.

 

Being in Sooner-land (blessed be!), I got to watch every game he ever played in (including while at Tech).  The guy is NOT a douchebag.  He's an EXTREME competitor, and makes note of every slight against him.   He has that win-at-any-cost mentality, and sometimes that can get one in trouble (the planting the flag was bad optics, but for good reason, if you know the story behind it).

 

I wish we'd have been able to get him, but hopefully JA makes that a moot point   (and I think he will!!!)  But I think Baker will make Cleveland fans happy for a couple decades.

 

I don't buy a jersey every year, but I have my authentic blue Allen jersey ready to go!  I think those two, along with Mahomes, will be the QB triplet that we talk about for the next 10-15 years, like we have Brees, Rivers, and Brady the last decade+.

 

The douche tried to run from the cops and got caught quickly. He is definitely in douche territory.

Edited July 20, 2019 by Ol Dirty B

[Another Fan]

22 hours ago, TtownBillsFan said:

I'm probably the biggest Baker Mayfield fan on this whole site, as I'm a die-hard SOONERS fan.  So yes, I was hoping we got him, however it had to happen.  I knew it probably wasn't going to happen, and hated it when we weren't able to trade up to get him.

 

Being in Sooner-land (blessed be!), I got to watch every game he ever played in (including while at Tech).  The guy is NOT a douchebag.  He's an EXTREME competitor, and makes note of every slight against him.   He has that win-at-any-cost mentality, and sometimes that can get one in trouble (the planting the flag was bad optics, but for good reason, if you know the story behind it).

 

I wish we'd have been able to get him, but hopefully JA makes that a moot point   (and I think he will!!!)  But I think Baker will make Cleveland fans happy for a couple decades.

 

I don't buy a jersey every year, but I have my authentic blue Allen jersey ready to go!  I think those two, along with Mahomes, will be the QB triplet that we talk about for the next 10-15 years, like we have Brees, Rivers, and Brady the last decade+.

I like Baker.  He strikes me more as of someone who wears his heart on his sleeve vs a d-bag.  

27 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

The douche tried to run from the cops and got caught quickly. He is definitely in douche territor

Yeah awful move but I have heard him own up to this and admit he was in the wrong 

Edited July 20, 2019 by Another Fan

[Augie]

23 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

I like Baker.  He strikes me more as of someone who wears his heart on his sleeve vs a d-bag.  

Yeah awful move but I have heard him own up to this and admit he was in the wrong 

I’ll give the guy a chance. I hate some of it, but who wasn’t 20 and stupid at some point? I know I’m on the list! 

[Ol Dirty B]

3 hours ago, Another Fan said:

I like Baker.  He strikes me more as of someone who wears his heart on his sleeve vs a d-bag.  

Yeah awful move but I have heard him own up to this and admit he was in the wrong 

 

Wow, would this board ever say the same thing about Lamar Jackson or Tyrod Taylor if they behaved the same way? Because neither of the things you are talking about have to do with performance. 

 

A guy calls out coaches, teammates, runs from the cops... He's a good dude. 

 

The hypocrisy on this board is beyond reproach. 

 

But don't you dare hold out for your money Le'veon or Melvin.

Edited July 20, 2019 by Ol Dirty B

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 7/18/2019 at 9:03 AM, ShadyBillsFan said:

Baker Mayfield thought the Patriots would trade up to draft him

 

OK.  I was going to leave this buried in the generic Around the NFL thread but after the comments it seems this may be a HOT topic 

 

 

 

Is Baker being a douchebag or not?  

He's holding a grudge against Hue ...  after less than half a season?  

 

Why? Because he let Tyrod start the season for the Browns?  

 

LOL, thats some ego. Would be quite a trade up for the Pats to get the first overall.