Wnybricky Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) The past 2 years it always seemed like we were getting blown out later on in preseason games. I think this is a direct result of the lack of depth the team has had due to the cap situation. I never like to watch my team lose. I know it doesn’t matter and there is other factors at play that may for the team be more important. Do you expect this year for the Bills to be more competitive in the preseason matchups? Edited July 18, 2019 by Wnybricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Is this going to turn into a bash whaley thread because his cap management cost us preseason games? I really don't even know where to go with this one. I can't think of a reason to care, win a regular season game. Edited July 18, 2019 by Ol Dirty B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Off to fly a kite! Oh, there's a preseason game on? Is Allen playing? No? Ok is TJax playing? No? Lets go fly that kite... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) The Bills preseason record in the Superbowl years 1990 to 1993 was 6 and 12. The Bills were outscored in those preseason games 273 to 417. Draw your own conclusions. Edited July 18, 2019 by RememberTheRockpile 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 The 4th preseason game paints a good picture of who the good teams are. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 We need a Kiddies Table forum. 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wnybricky Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, RememberTheRockpile said: The Bills preseason record in the Superbowl years 1990 to 1993 was 6 and 12. The Bills were outscored in those preseason games 273 to 417. Draw your own conclusions. What were their records in said superbowls ? Am I alone in the fact that if my team suits up I want them to win? I guess so..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wnybricky Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: We need a Kiddies Table forum. I know and I am up really late past my bed time. What ever grown up and serious big boy things would you like to discuss? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) I'll bite OP, Upgraded Oline and a more settled QB position should produce better results this year both pre season and regular season IMO. A little continuity. Myself personally, winning is nice , but as much can be learned from a loss during pre season in my humble opinion. Edited July 18, 2019 by Figster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Wnybricky said: What were their records in said superbowls ? Am I alone in the fact that if my team suits up I want them to win? I guess so..... I like to see the players do well and see how the starters do, but there really aren't any conclusions to make from preseason games about how the team will perform in the regular season. So yeah, I don't really care if they win in the preseason, but I suppose it is nice if they do. Those games are for evaluating individual performances, and even then we as fans only have maybe a 1/4 of the information necessary to make a conclusion about each player. I remember John Ross lighting us up in that Cincy preseason game. I thought he'd be a major contributor for them, and when the regular season rolled around he did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I want to see the rookies on the field, especially Joseph, Knox, Sills, and Ford. I want to see what the WR group can do even in meaningless situations. There should be some good competition at certain positions throughout TC and the preseason this year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, H2o said: I want to see the rookies on the field, especially Joseph, Knox, Sills, and Ford. I want to see what the WR group can do even in meaningless situations. There should be some good competition at certain positions throughout TC and the preseason this year. I need to see me some Sills V making this team. Excited for Knox and Sweeney as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 No reason for a large portion of the roster to put real effort into those games. The only teams who actually win a preseason game are the ones who finish it healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I think “better” and “preseason game” is an oxymoron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Is this a serious thread? The Bills didn't get "blown out" last preseason at all. So the OP is a troll. Edited July 18, 2019 by Boca BIlls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Man Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 There is way more to it than just the players. Personnel packages, formations, play book, and even basic game strategy aren't employed normally at all in the preseason. Not sure how you can judge a team by a contest where almost all the head coaches would go for a 2 point conversion instead of taking a chance at a tie or kick a field goal down 7 late in the game just to give the back up kicker some work. Just about everyone seems to understand that the preseason is just a glorified scrimmage. Practice and evaluation take precedent over winning for every team in the league during these games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 The OP is taking a lot of heat for this thread, and rightfully so. Preseason games are nothing more than glorified practices. I think they are somewhat important for new coaching staffs as they test out their game management preparation, and they're obviously important for young players trying to make a roster by standing out in a way they can't during training camp. For teams with established coaching staffs and veteran players the goal of preseason is to stay healthy. Yeah, you'll hear your occasional coach say something like "whenever we're playing we are playing to win" but nobody really cares. The Bills are not dealing with any scheme changes this year. For them this preseason is (I would presume) mostly about getting the new starting OL some live reps together, as well as giving Josh some time with his new receivers. The defense has almost nothing to prove during these practice games. It's also a good opportunity for Heath Farwell to get his ST in gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 A good preseason game = a game in which there are no injuries. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Remember in 2008 when the Lions won all their preseason games? They were fantastic that season. Edited July 18, 2019 by The Jerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 it doesn't matter...roster is set except for probably 10 spot barring injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 i think jumping down the OP throat is a little harsh- we are in the time of year where every thought has been on this board- I will agree i wish we won the preseason games just for entertainment but i hope out coaches have other things to use the games for besides winning preseason games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: A good preseason game = a game in which there are no injuries. Exactly. You can NEVER tell if a team is going to be really good from the preseason, but sometimes you can tell that they’re going to be really bad. That’s about it. The best indication that you might be good is that they’re really not trying in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 What you want to see is the first team offense move the ball consistently in the first two or three possessions then drop the microphone and run for the bench. That’s it. Turn off the TV and do yard work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I like watching the young fringe guys compete. Giving it all in hopes to earn that last spot. The coaches sure will have a tough time deciding if there are multiples of these guys to choose from in final cuts. Sign me up for good depth competitions! If that means winning some preseason games too, awesome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Figster said: I'll bite OP, Upgraded Oline and a more settled QB position should produce better results this year both pre season and regular season IMO. A little continuity. Myself personally, winning is nice , but as much can be learned from a loss during pre season in my humble opinion. ...good points bud.......I think the evaluative process during pre-season is tougher having to go from 90 to 53.......just my opinion.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 it is always nicer to get a W in preseason, but it does not mean a damn thing. Was it the Lions or Browns that went 4-0 in the preseason and 0-16 in the regular season? (or both?) I want to see player development and cohesion. I want to see players perform like they know what they are doing out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Remove the pre season games and let teams just setup practice sessions vs other teams on their own. Add 2 of those games to make it a 18 game schedule but you minus 2 games. The players only really play a large amount of game time in pre season weeks 2 and 3 anyway so it's pretty much the same grind minus pre season games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Is this a serious thread? The Bills didn't get "blown out" last preseason at all. So the OP is a troll. we were blown out by Bengals 20-0 in first half with starters playing. Showed how poor our OL was and that without pressure our DBs were a liability (Davis, Gaines etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Preseason games are not meant to be won. They're strictly to evaluate new and veteran players, familiarize players with the system, tweak the system as deemed necessary, and provide some game experience for inexperienced players. Who cares if the games are "better" (ask Marv Levy, who went to four Super Bowls and rarely won a preseason game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 hours ago, RememberTheRockpile said: The Bills preseason record in the Superbowl years 1990 to 1993 was 6 and 12. The Bills were outscored in those preseason games 273 to 417. Draw your own conclusions. Lot more NFC opponents? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 No. It is preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 never was a fan of preseason, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 No injuries is basically what I hope for #1.Other than that it is good to see your team do well in any game but there is little to no correlation of good play/outcomes in preseason to regular season so.....lets just not get injured. 11 hours ago, RememberTheRockpile said: The Bills preseason record in the Superbowl years 1990 to 1993 was 6 and 12. The Bills were outscored in those preseason games 273 to 417. Draw your own conclusions. The year the Lions were 0-16, they were 4-0 in preseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Gugny said: A good preseason game = a game in which there are no injuries. This. Unless, of course, you're one of the cleverer among us that has access to rubber mats. The only upside to preseason is simply that it means the drought is over, and meaningful football is on its way. The final cut down day is a relatively big deal, the final configuration of the offensive line this year will be a relatively big deal, the running backs and tight ends will be a relatively big deal. But otherwise? Just beware the mats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 yes. the team's depth has improved. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, The Jerk said: Remember in 2008 when the Lions won all their preseason games? They were fantastic that season. This is what came to mind for me as well. There’s also the 2017 Browns who also went 4-0 in the preseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Wow most of you are just so cynical and brutal with your responses. The original poster has a legitimate question. We are not the Patriots Saints Steelers Chargers, Rams etc. Meaning we have not been one of the elite teams in the league since the late 90's. Any mojo we can get to start the season with seems like a positive to me. We have upgraded the talent considerably on the offensive side of the ball. However, these players need to mesh with each other, the coaches, and especially Josh Allen. And as far as the defense is concerned, sure we are an experienced group having played together. But we were far from dominant, especially against the run in many games. So I believe a good showing in the preseason is most important to getting the team in the right frame of mind to attack the first month of the season. Especially after the garbage effort we put forth in the Baltimore, LA Charger and Green Bay games last year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...good points bud.......I think the evaluative process during pre-season is tougher having to go from 90 to 53.......just my opinion.......... True that, Players fighting to become the starters, the backups. Players fighting just to make the team. Competing at a time when wins mean nothing by way of standings. Everything to a players future in the NFL. Who sinks, who swims... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I think you can actually tel a lot from pre-season. When Rex was coach there were ominous signs during pre-season games, miscommunication, late substitutions, mis-use of the replay....and he actually tried to win them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I think you can actually tel a lot from pre-season. When Rex was coach there were ominous signs during pre-season games, miscommunication, late substitutions, mis-use of the replay....and he actually tried to win them Pfffft. So Levy’s preseason record told you a lot, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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