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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

6 weeks usually 

they are saying 2-3 months...which means 4 at least.  same foot/same break as last year.  hmmmm....

3 hours ago, Logic said:

What the Bills SHOULD do: Trade for Kyle Rudolph.

What the Bills WILL do: Re-sign Jake Fisher

Ugh.

i'd say send a 5th and a dozen wings to miami and bring o'leary back. ya never know.

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7 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

How do you break your foot in non-contact OTA practice....no way this guy will last through the season. I wouldn't bank on him being a contributor.

Once you break your foot, it is very easily broken again.  Killed a bunch of basketball player’s career - Bill Walton and Kevin Mchale. It killed Sammy’s one season because he rushed back too soon.  Odds are if we rush Kroft back too soon, it will re-occur.  It’s just a sucky injury. 

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4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Once you break your foot, it is very easily broken again.  Killed a bunch of basketball player’s career - Bill Walton and Kevin Mchale. It killed Sammy’s one season because he rushed back too soon.  Odds are if we rush Kroft back too soon, it will re-occur.  It’s just a sucky injury. 

 

It's still hurting Sammy.  He missed I think 6 games for the Chiefs last year because of it.

Kevin Durant missed games over multiple seasons because of it.

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58 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said:

Patriots in trade talks for Kyle Rudolph...if that happens one of their other TEs may be expendable.

B. Watson

A. Seferian-Jenkins

M. LaCosse

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the Pats got Kyle Rudolph and Gerald McCoy! They print money in NE!

They print SB rings too...make no mistake, that matters to some people just as much as money does

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5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Once you break your foot, it is very easily broken again.  Killed a bunch of basketball player’s career - Bill Walton and Kevin Mchale. It killed Sammy’s one season because he rushed back too soon.  Odds are if we rush Kroft back too soon, it will re-occur.  It’s just a sucky injury. 

 

It looks like a poor decision by the coaching/medical staff for rushing Kroft into OTAs rather than waiting for training camp:

 

From back when he signed in April:   [paywall content]    https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/03/tyler-kroft-buffalo-bills-nfl-sean-mcdermott-tight-end/

 

"...Kroft was on his way to doing that in 2017. His big game against the Ravens capped a season in which he started all 16 games and finished with 42 catches for 404 yards and seven touchdowns. Injury robbed him of the chance to build on that in 2018. Kroft appeared in just five games before a broken bone in his foot ended his season. He’s not completely healed from that injury, putting his participation in spring practices in jeopardy, but he should be 100 percent by the time training camp arrives."

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4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Oh well. I honestly don't care that much. We have a lot of TEs and Kroft isn't special. If he's the only major injury of OTAs I'm fine with that 

 

On the list of horrors that plague my dreams at night, I can live with this. He should be ready early season, and we have some younger guys who need more reps. Somebody gets hurt in OTA’s/Camp every year. Let’s hope this is it, and we get lucky going forward. That’s my glass half full speech. It’s all I got.....

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2 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Whaleys teams were competitive every single game, while we have been blown out far too much the last two years. While I support Beane and eager to see how the process turns out, I have my doubts because I’m a Bills fan and have been hurt in the past. A TE is a young QBs best friend and now our best option at that position is 3rd round rookie. 

Fine.  You may not like how your team played last season.   But to expect the Bills to be signing premium free agent talent is to be simply ignoring what the current GM has told us over and over.  He's not building this team with free agents.   His first attempt to make serious improvement at the position was to draft Knox.   So far as I know, he's still healthy. 

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40 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

It looks like a poor decision by the coaching/medical staff for rushing Kroft into OTAs rather than waiting for training camp:

 

From back when he signed in April:   [paywall content]    https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/03/tyler-kroft-buffalo-bills-nfl-sean-mcdermott-tight-end/

 

"...Kroft was on his way to doing that in 2017. His big game against the Ravens capped a season in which he started all 16 games and finished with 42 catches for 404 yards and seven touchdowns. Injury robbed him of the chance to build on that in 2018. Kroft appeared in just five games before a broken bone in his foot ended his season. He’s not completely healed from that injury, putting his participation in spring practices in jeopardy, but he should be 100 percent by the time training camp arrives."

 

Yikes, someone really messed up here.  The medical staff or the coaches.

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4 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

Yikes, someone really messed up here.  The medical staff or the coaches.

 

Or he was healed, stepped on something funny and re-broke his foot.  But no one to blame in that scenario, I guess... :beer: 

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6 minutes ago, Heitz said:

 

Or he was healed, stepped on something funny and re-broke his foot.  But no one to blame in that scenario, I guess... :beer: 

 

Still, it seems odd given the history of this staff for erring on the side of caution with off-season injuries.     If there was any question that he wasn't yet healed (and there was in April), he should have not been on the field...

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2 hours ago, BillsDiehard said:

Patriots in trade talks for Kyle Rudolph...if that happens one of their other TEs may be expendable.

B. Watson

A. Seferian-Jenkins

M. LaCosse

 

Doubtful. Both Watson and Jenkins were UFA's this year. Maybe one would be cut at the end of camp, but they're not gonna release either after just signing them. They're not Jake Fisher.

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9 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Still, it seems odd given the history of this staff for erring on the side of caution with off-season injuries.     If there was any question that he wasn't yet healed (and there was in April), he should have not been on the field...

There's just no way to know.   Presumably they talked to the doctors and they said he was good to go.  Presumably they talked to Kroft and he said all his work outs were fine.   They kept Morse and others off the field, so it's not as though they aren't paying attention to injuries and recoveries.  

 

If we're going to criticize, the point many others have made is the one worth talking about:  If you're looking for a free agent tight end, why are you signing one with a significant injury history, particularly foot injuries?  

 

Still, you make decisions as well as you can and move on.  Some decisions work out, some don't.  

 

I hope Knox is a player.  

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Now HERE'S the type of injury I would be OK with us getting up in arms about (you know, if he were on our team):

 

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Nick Bosa seemed to injure his hamstring during practice. He was treated briefly by a trainer & limped to the team huddle to end practice. Kyle Shanahan said he doesn’t know severity of it.

 

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3 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Whaleys teams were competitive every single game, while we have been blown out far too much the last two years. While I support Beane and eager to see how the process turns out, I have my doubts because I’m a Bills fan and have been hurt in the past. A TE is a young QBs best friend and now our best option at that position is 3rd round rookie. 

 

 

I disagree Whaley's teams were all over the place and lacked any direction. Especially QB. There may be a reason why Whaley is not being offered GM jobs nor is he getting lots of interviews

 

Beane dismantled that team and the pain of rebuilding is what has happened.

 

You are panicking to much regarding TE. There will be late cuts if need be. There will be releases

 

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1 hour ago, Heitz said:

 

Or he was healed, stepped on something funny and re-broke his foot.  But no one to blame in that scenario, I guess... :beer: 

 

Did you not read the article?  He wasn't going to be healed, therefore, he wasn't healed.

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6 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Joe Buscaglia ‏Verified account @JoeBuscaglia 1m1 minute ago Kroft's broken foot is the same one he broke last season as a member of the Cincinnati Bengals. #Bills

 

Probably should amputate and then cut him.

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4 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Do you know if the break is in the same place? 

 

Are the breaks related? 

 

Did private staff examine him? Or did an outside orthopedic specialist? And if so, do you know how many? 

 

That is exactly my question when I heard news.  Was this a bone which healed and rebroke and if so at same spot?

 

I have broken a number of bones in my feet and sometimes they were not detectable by x-ray until 2nd one.

The advantage being a professional veteran athlete there are treatments which will help which health insurance will not always pay for and that he probably can get paid for by Bills.

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7 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

he's toast.

 

I mean, from what I'm seeing he has had foot issues and looks as though they have come back.

 

Bengals' Tyler Kroft: Done for season after surgery

 

Kroft underwent season-ending foot surgery Friday and will be placed on injured reserve, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.

Kroft missed the Bengals' past four games due to a fractured right foot and had yet to resume practicing since suffering the injury.

 

Two knee injuries in 2016 too. The only person making Kroft not look injury prone was Eifert...

 

Uzomah and James were there in FA.

Irv Smith in the draft.

 

Maybe Kroft, Gaines and Murphy can form a sideline band to entertain during their injuries

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Didn't like the signing and this injury comes as no surprise. Some guys just can't stay healthy and Kroft seems to fit the mold. Availability and all that jazz. The TE position is likely to hinge on whether Beane got the Knox pick right. Still, it'd be nice for THIS season IF Kroft can at least get back on the field. Tough to expect a raw rookie to step right in.

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4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Your medical opinion is his foot wasn't fully healed because he broke it again.  So it seems you believe that if you re-break a bone, that means it wasn't healed.

Julian Edelman, Sammy Watkins, Kevin Durant, Julio Jones all had multiple foot injuries on the same foot.....those doctors suck huh?

 

What is he right about?  That the foot wasn't healed?

He's right about Beane signing poor free agents. He's right about Kroft being injured. He right about Kroft being reinjured.

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3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Folks need to calm down a little bit.....this was not a bad signing and the bills covered themselves at TE and can wait for him to come back healthy

 

Exactly. Or let him go. Beane stocked the roster ahead of the draft so they aren’t chasing holes to fill. They bolstered TE in FA then got some guys from their board to get even better. 

 

Past years this this would have been a big concern, now it’s not even a speed bump 

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30 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:

Those Cincinnati tight ends.

 

Oh well. Nothing wrong with Knox, Croom, Smith, and Sweeney.

Nothing wrong other than one that isn’t good, one who is primarily a blocker, and two unproven rookies. One of which who has never caught a TD. I’d say the weakest position on the entire team just got even weaker. 

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4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Nothing wrong other than one that isn’t good, one who is primarily a blocker, and two unproven rookies. One of which who has never caught a TD. I’d say the weakest position on the entire team just got even weaker. 

Hey, Knox. I know you never catch a td in college but guess what?  You’re starting in the nfl. 

12 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Exactly. Or let him go. Beane stocked the roster ahead of the draft so they aren’t chasing holes to fill. They bolstered TE in FA then got some guys from their board to get even better. 

 

Past years this this would have been a big concern, now it’s not even a speed bump 

TE is stocked???  I feel like TE is like qb for us when we haven’t seen a good one in forever that we don’t know what one looks like.  We have a bottom 5 TE group.  Better hope Knox is a hidden gem.  

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3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Hey, Knox. I know you never catch a td in college but guess what?  You’re starting in the nfl. 

TE is stocked???  I feel like TE is like qb for us when we haven’t seen a good one in forever that we don’t know what one looks like.  We have a bottom 5 TE group.  Better hope Knox is a hidden gem.  

 

Excalty! Top 27 Tight end group..! 

 

My my point was they filled up the depth chart so they didn’t need to get anything they could there in the draft.  It’s gotta be better now than last year. 

 

I honestly have irrational, barely founded, high hopes for Sweeney based on 3 minutes with YouTube.... which you can basically take to the bank!

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