KD in CA Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: MOTHER@#^%@$%&&@!!!!!!!!!! https://www.thestreet.com/quote/EJMLL.html First a trade war tanks my stock portfolio and tech investments and now this news comes in and finishes it off. Looks like I won't be retiring. I shorted every share I could get my hands on. I close on my private island in French Polynesia next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Um nooo! Good kid, poor mechanics ...yup...and that....good catch......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I share your thoughts! I always liked EJ..somewhat a victim of circumstance I don't want to pile on EJ. He by all accounts is a terrific young man. What can't be said is that he was a victim of circumstances. Whether he was a first round pick or would have been a lower pick he simply wasn't good enough. That is not to say that joining the Bills when he did was the best situation for him or any other qb prospect. However, what is clear is that he didn't have the talent to be a franchise qb in this league. And it is fair to say that he was around long enough and given enough opportunities in a number of locations to demonstrate that he could be a viable qb in this league. He being drafted in the first round is a testament to the systematic and gross ineptitude of this plagued franchise. Hopefully, under this current regime these blatant bad decisions will happen with less frequency. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I share your thoughts! I always liked EJ..somewhat a victim of circumstance Primarily the circumstance of not being a very good QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 He seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Best of luck to him. I'm sure he'll be successful in whatever he decides to pursue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Good luck EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 He did slam the Bills after the Ravens game last year.... Wondering why Peterman had a job over him and got more opportunity than he did Double yikes... Raiders moved on from him and... signed Peterman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) I wish him happiness and success as he moves on to the next part of his life. EJ is a genuinely good guy, hard working, earnest. It didn't work out the way he hoped, and that has to be disappointing for him, just as it is for the thousands of other guys who get close but don't quite make it. It isn't easy to hear you don't have what it takes, and it isn't easy to accept it. I wish him well. Edited May 13, 2019 by Shaw66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: All things considered, easily one of the top 5 busts in Bills history. Absolutely sucked the life out of this team. This guy made me like Thad Lewis. Never got better from his first game. Other then Tebow he probably had the worst mechanics and footwork of any QB ever taken in the first round. The guy was defended with relentlessly on the BBMB. Nobody is saying he was a bad guy. He just was severely overdraft and then never did anything to get better. EJ is perhaps the worst selection ever by the Bills from the past decade. I’m not just basing this on his NFL career which was less-than-stellar from all accounts. However EJ just did not have the talent to be selected in Round 1. He was a 3rd or 4th round QB projected to be a backup/spot start which is what his career ultimately turned out to be. It was malfeasance by Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley to neglect the QB position as long as they did. It forced them to draft a QB in a class of terrible QB prospects. However rather than waiting to take EJ in Round 3, they make the foolish decision to announce him as a 1st round pick. This led to unrealistic expectations from just about everyone - the Bills, fans, and even EJ himself. He was put in a position he never should have been. By all accounts EJ is a great person but being drafted so high and the unfair expectations put on him took a toll. It was reported he worked with a sports psychologist during his tenure with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: I remember someone burned a #3 after the Jacksonville disaster So you think they still have matches and lighter fluid, but short a jersey? ? Edited May 13, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well said. You must not have invested in those EJ shares a few years ago. I kid I kid EJ fell on some very difficult times lately. After weeks of remaining unsigned while Nathan Peterman occupied a roster spot EJ's mental condition deteriorated rapidly. He lost 43 lbs, stopped showering, and walks around all day muttering "5 interceptions in a half. Child of god, my ass". He made several strange and incoherent and graphically violent public threats toward Ted Nolan. Something about Ted and his mom. His family and Dr. all agreed retirement was in the best interest of his health. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He did slam the Bills after the Ravens game last year.... Wondering why Peterman had a job over him and got more opportunity than he did That was fair though. He should have been employed before Peterman. Still, I don’t have any feelings at all toward him. He’s just another person in the world to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: $9.8M per Spotrac That’s a bit more than I had made by his age. Or.......my age. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I will always like EJ. Sorry it didn't work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: That’s a bit more than I had made by his age. Or.......my age. I have confidence in you . Just keep grinding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, JoeF said: Is this some sort of backhanded way of calling EJ an ass? You really didn't like him, did you? ? Others have mentioned the many things set EJ up for failure... Unwarranted first-round status via Nix and Whaley -- they talked themselves into it. Those conversations must have been gems. The first year injuries. Just as EJ was about to get some great consistent, game after game reps he would get injured\ I don't know that I can really define what Nate Hackett's offensive system was...all I know is that it was better suited for Kyle Orton than EJ Manuel. EJ could read one side of the field and could move...so what do you game plan--drop-back passing with fairly complex reads--brilliant..... Augie, despite my joke--your post sums up my feelings really well. Oops! Yeah, I fixed that! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Yeah, I dont sorry for anyone who made more money first year outta college than I've made in my 48 year life, but I still wish EJ the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 A man who I tirelessly debated about how much he sucked to the BBMB youtube scouts before we even drafted him. RIP EJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: All things considered, easily one of the top 5 busts in Bills history. Absolutely sucked the life out of this team. This guy made me like Thad Lewis. Never got better from his first game. Other then Tebow he probably had the worst mechanics and footwork of any QB ever taken in the first round. The guy was defended with relentlessly on the BBMB. Nobody is saying he was a bad guy. He just was severely overdraft and then never did anything to get better. I dont agree with that. Definitely a bust though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: I have confidence in you . Just keep grinding. I’m “retired” according to my tax returns. I outkicked my coverage with my wife. It turns out she’s a MUCH better banker than I ever dreamed of being. I have my confidence in her! All the eggs are in that basket now. ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Try Canada, great beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Wish him well. I think E.J. will be very successful in the next phase of his career.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: A "first" for EJ's NFL career that is probably not suitable for framing on his man-cave wall? https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/ej-manuel-bills-lose-game-three-different-countries Nonetheless, I wish him all the best, with better times as a retired player, and one eligible for the vested NFL pension, so there's that. Four. Most people think that California is in a country by itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I do have one fond memory of him. Nov 2013 against the Jets where he tore up their defense. Bills won that day something like 37-14. The Jets had won like 7 of the last 8 games against the Bills at that point and usually bullied them as well. I still had high hopes for EJ at that point. Unfortunately being a good person doesn't make you a good starting QB in the NFL. I wish the guy luck in his future endeavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He did slam the Bills after the Ravens game last year.... That was no slam. It was a valid question with no rational answer or explanation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Does anyone want to buy an authentic gently used EJM#3 jersey? Ive made many choices in my life. This is on the long list of poor ones. Hang onto it a little longer. After this season you'll be able to bundle it on Ebay with your Josh Allen jersey. Might be easier to sell them that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Does anyone want to buy an authentic gently used EJM#3 jersey? Ive made many choices in my life. This is on the long list of poor ones. Kiko jerseys go for a hummer at New Era... wait until the season and maybe you can hold out for a handy and a half a warm beer on game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: The stock market is crashing...sell...sell !! Actually, dips like this are the times when smart people buy. For every "Chicken Little" running around saying the sky is falling, guys like Warren Buffet pull out the check book and take advantage of low prices. I'm glad EJ is hanging them up. He was a decent guy but a pitiful QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Why do you think EJ retired? I seem to recall reading here that the genius that is Andy Reid would finally unlock EJ's vast potential . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 If we only had better receiVers. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Hang onto it a little longer. After this season you'll be able to bundle it on Ebay with your Josh Allen jersey. Might be easier to sell them that way. what the... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: He did slam the Bills after the Ravens game last year.... Wondering why Peterman had a job over him and got more opportunity than he did Double yikes... Raiders moved on from him and... signed Peterman Yup, talk about a double whammy there. Got to be a tough pill to swallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: All things considered, easily one of the top 5 busts in Bills history. Absolutely sucked the life out of this team. This guy made me like Thad Lewis. Never got better from his first game. Other then Tebow he probably had the worst mechanics and footwork of any QB ever taken in the first round. The guy was defended with relentlessly on the BBMB. Nobody is saying he was a bad guy. He just was severely overdraft and then never did anything to get better. He was a 3rd round qb that was destined to be a perennial backup. DW took a huge risk and it failed miserably. Finding a franchise qb is not easy. It takes alot of relentless work by a scouting dept and a little bit of luck. With EJ we got neither. His career ended in London as Peterman's ended against the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 EJ was a fine quarterback. His only problems were lack of any feel for the game and an inability to complete passes, even very short ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: EJ was a fine quarterback. His only problems were lack of any feel for the game and an inability to complete passes, even very short ones. This is confusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Isn’t bruce Smith related to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 It just eases me knowing this was Buddy's pick NOT Whaley's...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Isn’t bruce Smith related to him. Godfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Poor kid was never given a chance. I wish him well. And his mom ... I wish her well, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Who knows? Certainly if he made decent investments and doesn't start now with the rock-star thing, he's set for life. This is more than likely the case. He was in an impossible with the Bills. Never should have been a 1st round pick to begin with and it messed with his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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