Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1. Arizona - Murray 2. Raiders - Trade with San Francisco Bosa 3. NY Jets - Allen 4. San Francisco - Quinnen Williams 5. Tampa Bay - White 6. NY Giants - Sweat - this is my most unsure pick. Sweat could go as high as 5 and fall as low as 25 7. Jacksonville - Taylor 8. Detroit - Bush 9. Buffalo - Jonah Williams This is what I think will happen not what I would do if I was GM for most of these clubs. I think Beane tries to trade down but can't find any suitors. I believe McDermott does not want an undersized Oliver at DT that argued with his coach. I think Dawkins took a step back in both run and pass blocking last year and Nsekhe is at best a one year retread rental at RT. I believe Beane would be happy landing Taylor, Williams, or Dillard but loathes to do so at #9. Lastly, while I would take Hockenson or Fant at #9, I think the board is probably correct in that teams just don't put first round grades on TE's that often and Beane won't either. With the top 7 defenders off the board, Beane albeit reluctantly takes a future All-Pro LT. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: 1. Arizona - Murray 2. Raiders - Trade with San Francisco Bosa 3. NY Jets - Allen 4. San Francisco - Quinnen Williams 5. Tampa Bay - White 6. NY Giants - Sweat - this is my most unsure pick. Sweat could go as high as 5 and fall as low as 25 7. Jacksonville - Taylor 8. Detroit - Bush 9. Buffalo - Jonah Williams This is what I think will happen not what I would do if I was GM for most of these clubs. I think Beane tries to trade down but can't find any suitors. I believe McDermott does not want an undersized Oliver at DT that argued with his coach. I think Dawkins took a step back in both run and pass blocking last year and Nsekhe is at best a one year retread rental at RT. I believe Beane would be happy landing Taylor, Williams, or Dillard but loathes to do so at #9. Lastly, while I would take Hockenson or Fant at #9, I think the board is probably correct in that teams just don't put first round grades on TE's that often and Beane won't either. With the top 7 defenders off the board, Beane albeit reluctantly takes a future All-Pro LT. Your guess is as good as anyone's but IMO in that scenario they pick Oliver. If he's gone, I'd love to see them pick Jonah. From what we've heard, Oliver argued with his coach one time, and the two made up almost instantly. I don't think that's a big problem at all. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: 1. Arizona - Murray 2. Raiders - Trade with San Francisco Bosa 3. NY Jets - Allen 4. San Francisco - Quinnen Williams 5. Tampa Bay - White 6. NY Giants - Sweat - this is my most unsure pick. Sweat could go as high as 5 and fall as low as 25 7. Jacksonville - Taylor 8. Detroit - Bush 9. Buffalo - Jonah Williams This is what I think will happen not what I would do if I was GM for most of these clubs. I think Beane tries to trade down but can't find any suitors. I believe McDermott does not want an undersized Oliver at DT that argued with his coach. I think Dawkins took a step back in both run and pass blocking last year and Nsekhe is at best a one year retread rental at RT. I believe Beane would be happy landing Taylor, Williams, or Dillard but loathes to do so at #9. Lastly, while I would take Hockenson or Fant at #9, I think the board is probably correct in that teams just don't put first round grades on TE's that often and Beane won't either. With the top 7 defenders off the board, Beane albeit reluctantly takes a future All-Pro LT. Correct me if I'm wrong but I've never heard of an elite LT with short arms if there is 1 let me know either way there few and far in between. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: Correct me if I'm wrong but I've never heard of an elite LT with short arms if there is 1 let me know either way there few and far in between. That Joe Thomas guy was pretty good lol 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, PolishPrince said: That Joe Thomas guy was pretty good lol Good one very good one but I dont see the similarities as prospects. Joe Thomas was universally rated the top tackle in his draft nobody said he should kick into guard spots. Joe was the exception not the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFan1988 said: Good one very good one but I dont see the similarities as prospects. Joe Thomas was universally rated the top tackle in his draft nobody said he should kick into guard spots. Joe was the exception not the rule. You just said you've never heard of an elite LT with short arms. I just gave you arguably one of the best. Didnt say this guy was going to be the next Joe Thomas, just naming an elite LT with short arms 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 If we select Jonah I hope he is the next Joe Thomas or Zach Martin if he kicks inside. I see him as a Jake Matthews level player which is good but not elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 How would this disappoint? He’s who I’d like to see us get. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I will be thrilled 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Actually, it would probably be the best move at #9 to truly help Allen grow into the QB he has the potential to become. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: Correct me if I'm wrong but I've never heard of an elite LT with short arms if there is 1 let me know either way there few and far in between. All the other dinosaurs feared the mighty TRex! All kidding aside, you might have to slide him to guard for maximum effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I can live with the pick. Got to help Joshy... I like these young fat guys... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: 1. Arizona - Murray 2. Raiders - Trade with San Francisco Bosa 3. NY Jets - Allen 4. San Francisco - Quinnen Williams 5. Tampa Bay - White 6. NY Giants - Sweat - this is my most unsure pick. Sweat could go as high as 5 and fall as low as 25 7. Jacksonville - Taylor 8. Detroit - Bush 9. Buffalo - Jonah Williams This is what I think will happen not what I would do if I was GM for most of these clubs. I think Beane tries to trade down but can't find any suitors. I believe McDermott does not want an undersized Oliver at DT that argued with his coach. I think Dawkins took a step back in both run and pass blocking last year and Nsekhe is at best a one year retread rental at RT. I believe Beane would be happy landing Taylor, Williams, or Dillard but loathes to do so at #9. Lastly, while I would take Hockenson or Fant at #9, I think the board is probably correct in that teams just don't put first round grades on TE's that often and Beane won't either. With the top 7 defenders off the board, Beane albeit reluctantly takes a future All-Pro LT. At G I think. He got handled in the Champ. Game by Clemsom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) I rather Oliver, but I'm okay with it. But, gesh, we should be able to trade down one or two spots and pick up another 4th rounder. They could be used to move our 2nd up to the lower 1st or take a couple of flyers at offensive line, tight ends, one-trick pony EDGE players or the like. Edited April 25, 2019 by maryland-bills-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: Good one very good one but I dont see the similarities as prospects. Joe Thomas was universally rated the top tackle in his draft nobody said he should kick into guard spots. Joe was the exception not the rule. David Bakhtiari is another example for what it's worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 LOL at passing on Oliver. He’s their first choice and if he’s there they’re running to the podium. Jonah Williams is a nice consolation prize but I doubt he’s going to be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: Correct me if I'm wrong but I've never heard of an elite LT with short arms if there is 1 let me know either way there few and far in between. If he has real short arms he couldnt draw a holding call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: Good one very good one but I dont see the similarities as prospects. Joe Thomas was universally rated the top tackle in his draft nobody said he should kick into guard spots. Joe was the exception not the rule. Jake Matthews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: 1. Arizona - Murray 2. Raiders - Trade with San Francisco Bosa 3. NY Jets - Allen 4. San Francisco - Quinnen Williams 5. Tampa Bay - White 6. NY Giants - Sweat - this is my most unsure pick. Sweat could go as high as 5 and fall as low as 25 7. Jacksonville - Taylor 8. Detroit - Bush 9. Buffalo - Jonah Williams If Oliver falls to us I think we run the card up to Goodell. I'd be fine with Jonah Williams as long as Allen and Oliver are already taken. Edited April 25, 2019 by Doc Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 When you have as bad an o line as we did last year nobody is upset 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I could see the pick being Williams, but only if Oliver and Dillard are gone. I think we would pick a true tackle first. If the pick is Williams, I see us grabbing an OT like Kaleb McCary or Titus Howard in Rd. 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Not sure how 'everyone' would be disappointed. I, for one, would be fine/happy with it. Like any other pick, some will be happy and some will be disappointed; however, I think the majority of people would be not be disappointed if Jonah Williams is the selection. As an added bonus, he said that he would love to play for the Bills. Honestly, if the Bills stay at 9, I find it hard to believe that they won't get someone who is good to the majority unless Beane completely goes off the rails. Might not be the first or even second guy you wanted but it will be someone you can get behind, not an "I'm so done with this team" guy. Can't wait for tonight! GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Jason Peters only has a 33 1/8” arm length. That’s a whole 4/8” less than your boy Jonah. I think he could find a way to overcome this shocking 3/8” arm length catastrophe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 No way they pass on Oliver. I think it will go Murray, Bosa, Williams, Allen, White, Oliver, Taylor, bush(maybe hock), then with bills on the clock a trade down for someone coming up for Haskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 If they draft a ham sandwich that goes on to an All Pro career, I would be fine with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: Correct me if I'm wrong but I've never heard of an elite LT with short arms if there is 1 let me know either way there few and far in between. He has longer arms than Andre Dillard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: If we select Jonah I hope he is the next Joe Thomas or Zach Martin if he kicks inside. I see him as a Jake Matthews level player which is good but not elite. Bills already have Jake Matthews level of tackle in Dawkins. I wouldn’t be upset with the pick. Bills need to build both lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 This would not disappoint everyone. Most of us trust this regime to make the right decision. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Paired w N’keal Harry and this draft is an a plus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 As long as he doesn't draft Dillard. That's where I am at. But I think the most likely outcome is some sort of trade down and Byron Murphy, or a guy like Cody Ford/Dalton Risner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I really DON’T want Jonah Williams. Can it a hunch or intuition, but just don’t think a guard at 9 is a good use of that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Obtaining excellent OL for this team will never ever disappoint me. It’s the most critical part of building the offense after the QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I would not be disappointed. In fact, I think I’d be full on appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) I can see them taking Chance Cooper edit: I meant chance warmack edit edit: meant Jonathan Cooper either one is a slam dunk! Edited April 25, 2019 by Chemical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Jonah Williams short arms: https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-jonah-williams-can-overcome-combine-measurements Jonah doesn't care............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I’d be a little disappointed with OL at 9. I don’t see a franchise type LT in those top guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 How do you excited about a guy who doesn’t touch the ball on O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: How do you excited about a guy who doesn’t touch the ball on O Because the OL drives the success of the guy with the ball in his hands on every play drafting with the goal of “exciting” the fan base gets GMs fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 My guy is Oliver, but Id be just as happy with Jonah. Im gonna trust that process the rest of the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 45 minutes ago, dubs said: I really DON’T want Jonah Williams. Can it a hunch or intuition, but just don’t think a guard at 9 is a good use of that pick. First off, I think the short arm thing is being over-evaluated right now and he will be a successful tackle in this league. But secondly, IF he were to be used at Guard and had a perennial all-pro type of career at that position, would you like the pick then? Or do you think #9 in round 1 is too high for a guard, even for that level of success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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