thebandit27 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Let's see what the money looks like--my guess back in December was $2.5-$3.5M per Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, poblano said: Still lacking another edge rusher, Murphy and Lawson aren't.  Eh. I'm fine with the guys we have up front. Lawson looked good last year... maybe he gets better.  If we get another edge rusher, great.  But I don't think we're desperate.  I really do think they need to start working on a Hughes extension, 'cause that guy's still a beast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Seems like this works for all sides. Nice work Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 "Buffalo is home". So we've all been around long enough to know we do a great job as a fanbase of making players feel good. I know we like to pump our chest about and we often forget this is what players often say when they sign, etc.   I do find this particular player saying this as something different. Yes, Buffalo is in fact a great place to play but a player signing a 1 year deal calling it home.   I think players are onboard with what the Owners, FO and coaches are doing. I think we're as healthy now as we've been since the super bowl teams began breaking up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, White Linen said: "Buffalo is home". So we've all been around long enough to know we do a great job as a fanbase of making players feel good. I know we like to pump our chest about and we often forget this is what players often say when they sign, etc.   I do find this particular player saying this as something different. Yes, Buffalo is in fact a great place to play but a player signing a 1 year deal calling it home.   I think players are onboard with what the Owners, FO and coaches are doing. I think we're as healthy now as we've been since the super bowl teams began breaking up.  ....or.....they put a little name plate on his favorite spot at the bar at Dave & Busters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsSB2020 said: This thread may not last very long because there's absolutely nothing to criticize about this deal.? Â Yes, there is, why did it take so long? Come on, Beane!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Why the 1 year? Wouldn't you think they'd hope to look past one year? Are they unsure of his long term ability but want to see a full season/off-season?  Possibly they weren't offering the long term.cash he was looking for so opted to take the prove it deal?  Just curious how they didn't end up with more term on this deal. Phillips could of only wanted a one year deal.. Happens all across the league.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) Happy it’s a one year deal. He is a decent rotation guy but not someone I’m eager to give a long term deal to just yet. 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:  Eh. I'm fine with the guys we have up front. Lawson looked good last year... maybe he gets better.  If we get another edge rusher, great.  But I don't think we're desperate.  I really do think they need to start working on a Hughes extension, 'cause that guy's still a beast.  I wouldn’t be fine with who we have up front. Hughes is literally the only guy we have that can create pressure consistently.  Lawson had his best season yet but he still offers little in terms of pass rush ability. Murphy is still a walking injury. We desperately need help on the d-line. Edited March 5, 2019 by Bangarang 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK Fan Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Good signing, glad to see him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Happy it’s a one year deal. He is a decent rotation guy but not someone I’m eager to give a long term deal to just yet.  I wouldn’t be fine with who we have up front. Hughes is literally the only guy we have that can create pressure consistently.  Lawson had his best season yet but he still offers little in terms of pass ish ability. Murphy is still a walking injury. We desperately need help on the d-line. Yep. Lorax is almost certain to decline, Murphy is always injured, Kyle is gone, and Lawson has never been much of a pass rusher. Hughes is the only guy I have much faith in to get to the QB and that's not nearly enough.  This is obviously a great signing as it's a one year deal and Phillips has shown he can play, but the Bills can't rest on their laurels at the most important defensive unit. Edited March 5, 2019 by BillsSB2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Phillips could of only wanted a one year deal.. Happens all across the league.   Yes it does but not generally when a player re-signs with the same team, no? Normally it's a prove-it type deal through free agency while switching teams or rebounding from an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsmystic Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Smart move- young player, seemed to fit in and plays a position of need Now drafting a DTÂ is a nice to have rather than a need to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:  Yes it does but not generally when a player re-signs with the same team, no? Normally it's a prove-it type deal through free agency while switching teams or rebounding from an injury. I think the Phillips situation is kind of unique. He was pretty good for us, but I think he is still in a prove it type of situation. A 1 year deal gives him a chance to prove that his small sample was not a fluke and he likely knew he would not get a much better offer on the open market. I think the depth at defensive line in this year's draft is going to hurt defensive tackles on the free agent market. Edited March 5, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 $4mil or less is a win. Still think they draft a Dtackle early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:  Yes it does but not generally when a player re-signs with the same team, no? Normally it's a prove-it type deal through free agency while switching teams or rebounding from an injury. He came to the Bills late.. This one year deal is a prove it deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think the Phillips situation is kind of unique. He was pretty good for us, but I think he is still in a prove it type of situation. A 1 year deal lets gives him a chance to prove that his small sample was not a fluke and he likely knew he would not get a much better offer on the open market. I think the depth at defensive line in this year's draft is going to hurt defensive tackle on the free agent market.  That's an interesting point.  I figured that the front office would offer themselves some protection against losing him the following year in the case that he does produce well. This deal is essentially a one-year rental. Maybe I'm biased because I think he has the potential to develop into a better than average DT...but they have the money to spend, so I was expecting an incentive based contract with possibly 2-3 years. This would allow them to bail if they aren't sold on him for a long term contract while guaranteeing his rights if he does in fact come on strong.  Either way, it's surprising giving the comments from both Phillips and Beane regarding the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsSB2020 said: This thread may not last very long because there's absolutely nothing to criticize about this deal.? Â Â 1 year, 83 million dollar deal. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Never split a pair of Phillips...way to stand pat with the hand we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 It could be for $100K, $1m or $10m...this is great based on the term alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said:  ....or.....they put a little name plate on his favorite spot at the bar at Dave & Busters.  Hey at least it doesn't take 2 hours to get across town.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Glad they got this deal done. I like him much better than Star who we are overpaying at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Â Â 1 year, 83 million dollar deal. Hometown Discount..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said: They need to actually. The good news is its a great year to take one  If their offense wasn't complete mess, sure.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 The longer it takes for the contract terms to come out, typically the smaller the deal. Agents usually like to get any impressive sounding numbers out right away to the Schefters of the world so they can broadcast it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Agreed.... which is why, despite the offensive struggles, I would be on board with a first round defensive lineman. DT or DE or doesn't matter? I think Edge over DT...but both are needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: I would certainly hope so. Jordan Phillips isn't a locked in starter which is why he got a 1 year deal. Â It's a one year audition for him hitting UFA next season. Â And, his agent wisely understood this was the best situation to get a chance to prove it (little DT depth) and be in position to hit UFA next off-season. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I hope Harrison Phillips gets a chance to start in Kyle's place. He has a year under his belt.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Solid resign, get a pass rusher in round 1, some OL in FA a solid RD 2 WR and we're Golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Whatever else they do at DE or even DT this offseason has nothing to do with signing Phillips for another year...  I see this as like the Spencer Long signing.. they will still acquire who they like in FA or the draft.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 With Phillips, Phillips and Lotulelei, the Bills have three solid rotational guys. They need one more to complete the set. A star would be great, but probably not essential. If they have a chance to draft Quinnen Williams, go for it, but there are a bunch of solid DTs in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Â Â 1 year, 83 million dollar deal. Thanks Kurt Cousins! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I would disagree kinda. Murphy is an excellent rusher.... when he’s healthy. That’s the big question mark. He was basically hurt all last season which sucks. Also don’t forget Lorax may be rushing a little more if they add some more linebackers which I’m sure they will. Hughes is our only top-end talent and this is our contract year. Murphy is decent when healthy, which he hasn't been in 2 years. We lost Kyle this year and don't have a legit 3-technique besides Phillips. Our line needs an infusion of youth or else we are going to be in trouble 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Great signing, need that beef up front. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 hours ago, BillsVet said: Â It's a one year audition for him hitting UFA next season. Â And, his agent wisely understood this was the best situation to get a chance to prove it (little DT depth) and be in position to hit UFA next off-season. Â Â Well aren't you a ray of sunshine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 A one year deal is bad in some situations and good in others. This is a good situation. Keep him focused and motivated.  Beane/McD have a huge offseason on their plate, I hope they nail it. They have shown that they understand the business side of things when handling players. Now they just need to nail their evaluations and avoid anymore Peterman like mistakes.  Most exciting offseason in awhile. #getjoshhelp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 14 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I love it!  I really thought the guy was a BEAST last year.  I really feel like our D is all set for one more year if we make absolutely no more additions.  Get our damn offense up to par, please!!! Don’t forget we lost meatball (that will hurt) not only as far as production on the field but as a true leader of that D , I’m sure the defense will be addressed wouldn’t surprise if it was with our day one pick , ( of course) its all depends what we do in the free agency, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I don't subscribe to PFF, but according to Rodak: "Pro Football Focus ranked Phillips as its 108th out of 112 graded interior defensive lineman last season." Â PFF isn't the end all, for sure, but I think Beane still has more work to do on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 The starting 3tech is a very important part of this defense and I think they could take that guy in the 1st (Oliver/Wilkins). But they also like to rotate on the DL and that’s why this is a really important signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, hemma said: I don't subscribe to PFF, but according to Rodak: "Pro Football Focus ranked Phillips as its 108th out of 112 graded interior defensive lineman last season."  PFF isn't the end all, for sure, but I think Beane still has more work to do on the DL. Agree. I continue to view PFF with skepticism, especially as it relates to creating objective stats based upon highly subjective interpretation of facts (i.e., OL/DL grading). As Eric Wood had put succinctly previously, it difficult for anyone other than the coaching staff to grade offensive line play as you don't know what the assignments, etc. are on any given play.    Edited March 5, 2019 by N.Y. Orangeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 year with a greater role in the rotation means he can reset his market next year if he wants. Interested to see the numbers, I thought he'd get 3 years back in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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