PIZ Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Miami beat reporter. This guy has had good info before. Regardless, it's interesting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Omar might have just finished a doobie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Omar might have just finished a doobie... Possibly Aussie Joe, but I'm sure glad we are not concerned about the QB position for once. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Omar Kelly is an idiot. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, PIZ said: Possibly Aussie Joe, but I'm sure glad we are not concerned about the QB position for once. I have been thinking how different this years off season is not to have any worries as to who the starting QB is next year... Just have to find some O Line and a receiver or two but this seems a relatively easy task in comparison to QB... Wonder where Omar thinks Tyrod is going? Maybe to "chill" out in Miami as the tank commander... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Wonder what Washington would have to give for rosen. Never been a fan of Rosen but the guy didn't get much of a chance in Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Miami chillin' - and will sign Tyrod Taylor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: Wonder what Washington would have to give for rosen. Never been a fan of Rosen but the guy didn't get much of a chance in Arizona My best guess is a 3rd this year and a 3rd next year that could become a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: Wonder what Washington would have to give for rosen. Never been a fan of Rosen but the guy didn't get much of a chance in Arizona My best guess is a third and a fifth. The Redskins have two thirds and two fifths thanks to gaining 4 comp picks. The trade would leave them with 7 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Omar Kelly is an idiot. Yes, he is. But everything he said is out there already ... so he’s just repeating it all. 16 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I have been thinking how different this years off season is not to have any worries as to who the starting QB is next year... Just have to find some O Line and a receiver or two but this seems a relatively easy task in comparison to QB... Wonder where Omar thinks Tyrod is going? Maybe to "chill" out in Miami as the tank commander... I have heard Tyrod to Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I do think that Josh Rosen sitting behind Alex Smith would be great for his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I do think that Josh Rosen sitting behind Alex Smith would be great for his career. Except Smith is not expected to play next year so Rosen needs to play in 2019. I am sure he would be a happy camper sitting behind Smith in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Yes, everything here is what has already been rumored. When Omar tries to have an original thought this is what comes out: 1 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I do think that Josh Rosen sitting behind Alex Smith would be great for his career. I'm not sure Smith plays ever again much less next year. Rosen still may sit behind Colt McCoy who seems to have transfixed the "other Gruden" in DC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: Omar Kelly is an idiot. That may be true, but what he just said is pretty accurate. AZ is gonna take Murray. WAS is where Rosen is favored to land. Foles is reported everywhere as a near lock to Jax. And of course you have to leap frog Giants for Haskins, everyone knows that. BONUS: And if Carr gets traded (possibly to Giants) then someone will need to leap frog Raiders for Haskins and Jets come up big in a trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Yes, everything here is what has already been rumored. When Omar tries to have an original thought this is what comes out: Well, at least his opinions are humble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Yes, everything here is what has already been rumored. When Omar tries to have an original thought this is what comes out: Oh my... 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: That may be true, but what he just said is pretty accurate. AZ is gonna take Murray. WAS is where Rosen is favored to land. Foles is reported everywhere as a near lock to Jax. And of course you have to leap frog Giants for Haskins, everyone knows that. BONUS: And if Carr gets traded (possibly to Giants) then someone will need to leap frog Raiders for Haskins and Jets come up big in a trade down. I think Foles to Jax is really smart for them... Vet with SB and Playoff experience...Should have a major impact on a really talented roster...I just get the feeling they collectively gave up last year because they knew they had no chance with Bortles...Players know...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: My best guess is a 3rd this year and a 3rd next year that could become a 1st. Interesting. I would have thought they’d have to give up their first this year. Guess it depends if there are other bidders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: I have been thinking how different this years off season is not to have any worries as to who the starting QB is next year... Just have to find some O Line and a receiver or two but this seems a relatively easy task in comparison to QB... Wonder where Omar thinks Tyrod is going? Maybe to "chill" out in Miami as the tank commander... Probably figures that Tyrod, finally, is viewed as only a backup QB around the league. So mentioning him is not important. I don't see how any team can view Tyrod as a starter. He sucked and a rookie came in and elevated the whole team in his place. 1 hour ago, mannc said: Interesting. I would have thought they’d have to give up their first this year. Guess it depends if there are other bidders. Rosen didn't show that he is worth a 1st. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 hours ago, PIZ said: Possibly Aussie Joe, but I'm sure glad we are not concerned about the QB position for once. Aint it great?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Omar might have just finished a doobie... Not sure what he said that is far off? He is not the only one saying these things. I think he just assembled them all into one thread. Anyhow, what I really like is the fact that the Buffalo Bills for the first time in many years are not part of these speculations. What a relief it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 hours ago, MJS said: Rosen didn't show that he is worth a 1st. Nor did he show that he’s not. And he’s 10 months removed from being no. 10 overall. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, mannc said: Nor did he show that he’s not. And he’s 10 months removed from being no. 10 overall. 100% correct. Denver does like Drew Lock the same way Pittsburgh really liked Mason Rudolph last year. They still waited until the 3rd to take him. I suspect Denver will take Drew Lock in the 2nd round (and I think he will still be there). Rosen does make sense in Washington. The Grudens want pocket QBs, not guys who make hay on broken plays. Also Washington is tight against the cap and cannot get out of that Smith contract. Rosen is cheap and is cheap for a number of years if it works out for them. They also have a really underrated offensive line - which even before the draft I always said was critical for a team taking Rosen - Washington's is one of the best in the league when they are all healthy..... the issue for them has been that a couple of those guys are quite injury prone. Edited March 4, 2019 by GunnerBill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Omar Kelly is an idiot. Yes, yes he is. He just took every rumor and threw it into a tweet because he's annoyed with the Fish tanking this season and not getting involved in the QB race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Rosen to Miami. That would create a nice 2018 QB draft rivalry in the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Omar reminds me of a drunk message board poster. Seems like he is just bashing the fins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Good Luck to the Broncos unloading Keenum's contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Wow, so according to this scenario there’s at least 2 QB’s taken in the top 10 picks. If Denver is “locked in” on Lock it probably means they aren’t the only team interested in drafting him. That could make the #10 spot a very interesting spot for a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 10 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: My best guess is a third and a fifth. The Redskins have two thirds and two fifths thanks to gaining 4 comp picks. The trade would leave them with 7 picks. There won't be a Rosen trade without a #1 involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Wow, so according to this scenario there’s at least 2 QB’s taken in the top 10 picks. If Denver is “locked in” on Lock it probably means they aren’t the only team interested in drafting him. That could make the #10 spot a very interesting spot for a trade Why would the ten spot be interesting for a trade? If Denver covets Lock and he's there at 10, they won't be trading that pick. If they move up, it will be for a QB so not much left at 10... Edited March 4, 2019 by BuffAlone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: There won't be a Rosen trade without a #1 involved. Why would a team overpay ? Dudes an interception machine. 2nd is plenty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: There won't be a Rosen trade without a #1 involved. The only way I can see a 1 involved is if the deal is Washington swapping its #1 for the Cardinals #2. The trade value there is about 420 points by the traditional chart which is equivalent to a mid 2nd rounder. It would give the Cards 2 picks in the first 15 but the Redskins would still have two #2s and two #3s..... plenty of ammunition to jump back up into the last 10 picks of round 1 for a non-QB position player they really like if needs be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Why would a team overpay ? Dudes an interception machine. Actually his INT percentage per attempt was just a smidgen better than Josh Allen's. He did in addition, however, lose 5 fumbles to Allen's 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 So how does all this affect the Bills chances of getting a trade down partner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Sounds like an interesting premise but this Kelly dude has unloaded some whoppers before so we'll see what happens. Speaking of whoppers, did anyone catch that speculated trade scenario involving Buffalo, Jacksonville and Philly? I'm pretty sure it was just conjecture but it proposed a three-way trade which would involve Shady, Foles and Leonard Fournette. I'm not sure which way they had the trades lined up but it would be something like Shady to Philly for Foles and then Foles to Jacksonville for Fournette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Actually his INT percentage per attempt was just a smidgen better than Josh Allen's. He did in addition, however, lose 5 fumbles to Allen's 2. Given how large a perceived gap there was between Rosen's and Allen's "readiness" to lead an NFL offense, those statistics are pretty damning (for Rosen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, eball said: Given how large a perceived gap there was between Rosen's and Allen's "readiness" to lead an NFL offense, those statistics are pretty damning (for Rosen). I certainly think that they are a negative for Rosen. I wouldn't quite go as far as pretty damning. I think people are very fast to write him off... those people may include the Cardinals front office. But I still suspect in the long run he will show he can play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 was Rosen THAT bad in Arizona? having the team abandoning a guy considered a Top Pick after a partial season?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: was Rosen THAT bad in Arizona? having the team abandoning a guy considered a Top Pick after a partial season?? No, I think it’s more about the coaching/scheme. Kliff wanting his guy. If it happens. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: was Rosen THAT bad in Arizona? having the team abandoning a guy considered a Top Pick after a partial season?? If all this Murray stuff is true, it's just coaching change stuff. Kingsbury knows what type of quarterback he wanst for his system, and apparently Rosen is not it. It's just simply the effect of a regime change. 2 hours ago, bigK14094 said: There won't be a Rosen trade without a #1 involved. The Cardinals would have zero leverage. And honestly, most teams can just decide turn around and draft a guy instead. It's terrible timing for a trade imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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