Hebert19 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 After watching that performance. Hes like a combination of Julio Jones and EMO. Does he make it to 9 after this combine? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Need him to be there at 9 to be all in on him. As this franchise has seen before, you simply do not trade up for a WR. Good WR class so missing on Metcalf isn’t the end of the world. He also had some troubling shuttle numbers. Straight line speed can only help a WR so much. I would certainly consider taking him at 9 for the upside, but it’s far from a slam dunk decision. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 His combine was actually more fascinating than it was a complete success 13 11 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I'm all in...he would make a perfect match with Josh Allen. He has the speed for Allen's arm, and he has the catch radius for Allen's arm. I would take DK Metcalf in the 1st round, and then trade into the end of the 1st round for Noah Fant. (Get veteran OL in free agency.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I’m going OL or DL in the 1st and WR in the 2nd 23 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: After watching that performance. Hes like a combination of Julio Jones and EMO. Does he make it to 9 after this combine? Below Average3-cone: 7.38Short Shuttle: 4.50 DL appears to have outstanding talent likely to be available at nine. Metcalf should be considered, but it's far from a no-brainer. Pretty deep WR class, so second round should have some good players that fit what we are trying to do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 A WR who doesn't cut well at 9? Yeah pass. 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytownblofan Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Not a chance. Jam him at the line with safety help over the top and he becomes a non-factor. A wr that can’t change direction and has a limited route tree becomes easy to defend, freak or not. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 no thanks. OL or DL at 9. If not, trade down 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: After watching that performance. Hes like a combination of Julio Jones and EMO. Does he make it to 9 after this combine? Yea except for the fact that you know Julio Jones had everything Metcalf had and Dominated the SEC for multiple years. Something Metcalf never did. He has no wiggle. Hes a straight line guy. That wont play in the NFL. Throw in his Injury history and I'll pass. Great athletes dont necessarily make good football players. You have to take the elite measurables and combine them with tape. Thats what scares me about guys like Gary and Sweat as well. Great athletes who didn't translate it to success on the field. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Below Average3-cone: 7.38Short Shuttle: 4.50 DL appears to have outstanding talent likely to be available at nine. Metcalf should be considered, but it's far from a no-brainer. Pretty deep WR class, so second round should have some good players that fit what we are trying to do. And there is that... Since the OP brought up a Julio Jones comparison, Julio's 3 cone time was about 3/4 of a second better. there's a lot more bake to Metcalf than there is shake (to those who actually remember Shake and Bake). Not to say that he can't become a dominant receiver, but I agree, it isn't a certainty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 What he's done at the combine is impressive and freakish. I just think he's too much of question mark with not enough tape and injuries. I know I'll be kicking myself down the road if he becomes an all time talent, but I just think you need to have more of sure thing in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 The only way I could see them not being all in on him is if they are not. Other than that they have to be. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Defensive linemen 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I want nothing to do with a WR with his injury history, especially if he has foot problems. I’m not looking for Sammy 2.0 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: Defensive linemen 100%. BPA is almost certain to be DL at nine. I just hope we pick up a RT and interior olineman in free agency, though I wouldn't pass on elite DL just to fill a need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 After all the "Combine Heros" who have burned GMs over the past 25 years, you'd think this stuff wouldn't happen. Metcalf's 40-time in shorts, bench press, and muscularity isn't the same as ability to run routes, catch contested balls, and producing like a WR1 on the field. He may look, run, & jump like Julio Jones- but that isn't enough to make him a star in the NFL. I'm VERY concerned about his agility numbers. Sure, he may end up a really good player in time. But he is an extremely raw prospect at this point, and can basically only run fly patterns. I want no part of him the first round, and I hope he's somebody else's mistake. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: His combine was actually more fascinating than it was a complete success Yeah. You probably aren't going to find "runs really fast in a straight line" among too many personnel executives' priorities for ANY player, let alone a top-10 WR 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 He’s injury prone, not a good route runner and tends to drop the ball in critical situations. N’Keal Harry is a better WR, has strong hands wins contested catches, runs good routes, has insane YAC ability and can contribute on returns. Oh and Harry also had 27 reps on the bench. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 a) our draft picks will depend in part on what we get in FA. 2) Beane does not seem to be overly concerned with these kind of analytics (cf. Josh Allen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Yeah. You probably aren't going to find "runs really fast in a straight line" among too many personnel executives' priorities for ANY player, let alone a top-10 WR RIP Al Davis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If you want a receiver with great straight line combine speed, why not trade for John Ross...might be able to get him on the cheap, certainly a lot cheaper than the 9th pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Defensive linemen 100%. I want Brian Burns. You like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 He was questionably not even the best wr on his own team. AJ Brown had much better production (even if you take DKs missed games into consideration) Speaking of - AJ had a pretty good combine himself. Ran a 4.49 and is a solid 226 lbs at only 6 feet. Obviously the #'s aren't as good as DKs, but I would love to grab him. Might tough though, 9 is too early and 40 might be too late so would most likely have to move around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, 947 said: After all the "Combine Heros" who have burned GMs over the past 25 years, you'd think this stuff wouldn't happen. Metcalf's 40-time in shorts, bench press, and muscularity isn't the same as ability to run routes, catch contested balls, and producing like a WR1 on the field. He may look, run, & jump like Julio Jones- but that isn't enough to make him a star in the NFL. I'm VERY concerned about his agility numbers. Sure, he may end up a really good player in time. But he is an extremely raw prospect at this point, and can basically only run fly patterns. I want no part of him the first round, and I hope he's somebody else's mistake. the combine is the SAT of sports. Easily gamed by someone good at taking tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsgpr88 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) I think Hakeem Butler brings same type of athleticism, albeit leaner and a bit slower. He has shown a lot more on tape, could be a steal in the second Edited March 3, 2019 by billsgpr88 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If we trade back and get an additional 2nd and a 4th round picks I would be happy with either Metcalf or Hockenson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Build the freaking lines! Edited March 3, 2019 by ndirish1978 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: I want Brian Burns. You like him? I do. I hope his weight gain is real weight gain and not Aaron Maybin combine weight gain. But honestly there are 10-15 defensive players I would take at 9 over any offensive players in this draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: After watching that performance. Hes like a combination of Julio Jones and EMO. Does he make it to 9 after this combine? They can easily not be in on Metcalfe. What if Josh Allen or Quinnen Williams fall to 9? What if Jawaan Taylor is sitting there? What if they love Hockenson or Christian Wilkins and trade down a bit? Metcalfe has has otherworldly athleticism and potential, but all of the players I mentioned have a lot more production at their position then a Metcalfe does at his, and those are positions the Bills could also use difference makers. Edited March 3, 2019 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ytownblofan said: Not a chance. Jam him at the line with safety help over the top and he becomes a non-factor. A wr that can’t change direction and has a limited route tree becomes easy to defend, freak or not. Your CB trys to jam him at the line and he will get leveled. Edited March 3, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I don't want him at 9 or in a trade down. I want DL or OL. Then WR, TE, RB. I know he was injured in 2018, which is another reason not to take him at 9, but I would want my 1st round WR to dominate in his games, and not just dominate the combine. 2016.... 2 Rec....13 yards....2 tds 2017.... 39 Rec.... 646 yards....7 tds 2018.... 26 Rec.... 569 yards.... 5 tds 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Gotta watch the tape. He is fast, and big there was never any doubt about that. He also ran very limited routes in college, didnt show great hands, and wasnt required to do much blocking. I still think there are about five in this draft alone who show better on tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Build the freaking line! I think we will build the Oline in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Just now, formerlyofCtown said: I think we will build the Oline in FA. Then go DT, there are excellent DTs for the taking at 9. Meant to say lineS. Edited March 3, 2019 by ndirish1978 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: Then go DT, there are excellent DTs for the taking at 9 I do like that Idea. I wonder if we will gamble on Oliver. Edited March 3, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 How can we not? Because Stephen Hill. 6'4 215lbs and he ran a 4.36. Issue was lack of production. He instantly jumped high on draft boards after his combine and proceeded to do nothing. Do I think Metcalf will be Hill? No I think he will be better but I also don't think he will be like Julio. Think he should be drafted 15-20 range. And he does have bust potential. However I can see us falling in love with him. Beane fell in love withJosh Allen and Tremain Edmunds to physical abilities and size. So same could happen with DK. But I'll rather take Hakeem... Not as good as athletic freak but I think will be a safer selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 All that talent doesn't mean anything if Josh is under duress, flushed out the pocket running for his life hoping he doesn't get his clock cleaned. He needs protection! Build that disastrous O line and our WRs and RBs will look a whole lot better. Yes we need an upgrade at the WR position, but it doesn't have to be Metkalf at #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 7.38 and 4.5, that’s why not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 He overwhelmingly exceeds all the measurables for a WR. His game tapes against SEC talent shows a WR winning on contested balls and breaking tackles. His coaches speak very highly about his character and work ethic. Similar to Edmonds, he comes from an NFL family. He has the potential to be a Julio Jones type WR. He appears to address a position of need at a higher level than other draftees at a position of need. Is that worth a risk at 9? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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