MJS Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: soooo if they take a QB at 4 this pushes down more players to Bills But whoever they trade him to will probably not want to draft a QB, so maybe it's a wash. I bet there are those who still view Carr as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, MJS said: But whoever they trade him to will probably not want to draft a QB, so maybe it's a wash. I bet there are those who still view Carr as a starter. I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I do I meant QB needy teams. They'll trade for Carr instead of drafting a QB, so it's a wash in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Perhaps Gruden will attempt to help out little brother in DC. Of course Redskins have little to give unless it's a 2020 pick and McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, White Linen said: That organization is absolutely coo coo. ...shopping?...."Guy's Grocery Games " comes to mind......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 This surprises nobody. Giants would make a lot of sense if they were willing to be done with Manning, but that seems unlikely. Maybe the Jags? Would you rather have Carr, or Foles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If imagine Mike Mayock could talk some sense into this. I still feel like Carr can be good. I really like Mike Mayock so, I'm hoping he succeeds. The question is will they allow him to do his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, HomeTeam said: If imagine Mike Mayock could talk some sense into this. I still feel like Carr can be good. I really like Mike Mayock so, I'm hoping he succeeds. The question is will they allow him to do his job. I agree - mayock seems more level headed than Gruden. But who has more power. And, neither one drafted him so they aren’t as invested. Its been hinted at but just to call it out, Reggie McKenzie drafted Carr and is with the Dolphins now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I agree - mayock seems more level headed than Gruden. But who has more power. And, neither one drafted him so they aren’t as invested. Its been hinted at but just to call it out, Reggie McKenzie drafted Carr and is with the Dolphins now.... Ah good point, I forgot about the Miami connection. It makes sense. I guess it will all come down to whether they think there is someone in this draft that they think is an upgrade over Carr. Should be fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: soooo if they take a QB at 4 this pushes down more players to Bills Lmao...Gruden is enamored with Peterman.... Edited March 3, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Laughing Coffin said: Mayock a day ago said he liked card a lot as the franchise qb ?? Hahah, I know right! I had been saying all season I felt Raiders would shop Carr. Then Mayock was running around at the combine talking Carr up so started to think they may try and build with him. Guess that was maybe just him trying to get people more interested in Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Wow. This team was a legit SB contender up until week 16 in 2016 and Carr was a legit MVP candidate, Mack was a legit defensive player of the year candidate and Cooper just put up his 2nd 1k yard receiving season in as many years. And in 2019 none of these guys might be on the roster? That's incredible . Isn't that the exact opposite of how to build your franchise? Gruden and Co are a Mess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Hahah, I know right! I had been saying all season I felt Raiders would shop Carr. Then Mayock was running around at the combine talking Carr up so started to think they may try and build with him. Guess that was maybe just him trying to get people more interested in Carr. I love Carr and his Goth eyeliner. The raiders are dumb. Please send him somewhere obscure like Redskins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: No not only Carr, he hates all QBs he coaches; evidently he ruins them like tissues. Yup just like he ruined Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson.? Oh wait he won a Superbowl with Johnson didnt he. You know, when he took Dungys 9-7 team to a 12-4 record that somehow Dungy was responsable for. He went on to beat the team he built in the SB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 This is just dumb if true. Who would his replacement be? I think this is just Chucky thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room and that he can make anyone into a star. There should be no shortage of suitors for Carr if he medically checks out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chosenone Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Good chance Reggie McKenzie and the Dolphins try to acquire D.Carr if this rumor is true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 we"ll find out how good he is on his next team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Middling QB who was in MVP race and led his team to playoffs with a solid OL? If he didn’t break his leg that team was a problem. There are a lot of guys who have one or two good-great seasons then nothing. Carr is not a great QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Laughing Coffin said: Mayock a day ago said he liked card a lot as the franchise qb ?? Mayock now knows that the GM is not the one in charge of the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Can anyone remember how Gruden felt about Rosen? Probably loved him because he loves all QB’s apparently.. Except Carr.. It's that arrogance again. Even if he likes him he'd rather win with his own guy, thus making him more of a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Woodman19 said: Giants would be a good fit Edit, beat me to it! Giants aren't ready to leave Eli behind. They won't trade for a young vet who could unseat him. They'll draft a guy so they can say they want to develop him slowly and let Eli go out with dignity; even though they should have told him to retire last off-season or release him. He's cooked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I think they'd be crazy to trade an above average starter to draft an unproven rookie. They may want a fresh face to the franchise on the move to Las Vegas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Gruden is going to trade Carr for Tannehill, watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I thought Gruden loved all qbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, R Y G A R said: I thought Gruden loved all qbs. Actually he would collect aging veterans or projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 9 hours ago, WMDman said: Agreed Dolphins probably grab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 9 hours ago, prissythecat said: If if he is good, why is the quarterback connoisseur Chicky shoppong him Too many mornings of Gruden watching reruns of ‘Let’s Make a Deal’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Crazy town! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 They have set a trend of not trading guys in the ACC. If he goes anywhere its Washington or New York. Washington makes the most sense to me as they don't have the picks to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: Gruden is going to trade Carr for Tannehill, watch. Gruden wants a QB that can read a defense. That’s not Tannehill. I watched a few Raiders games this year, in one of them the Raiders were competitive all game and Carr was completing all the short stuff that Gruden likes. Late in that same game Carr had a meltdown and threw a few boneheaded picks. That’s when Chucky gave him that look and it made me wonder if Carr’s time was soon up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: I'm a little disappointed with this. The thing I remember the most about Carr is him literally screaming at the camera, after a win, something about JESUS CHRIST!!!, and something about Christ being a big fan of his, or some such malarkey. The astonishing arrogance of the concept that the SON OF GOD would be a fan of his, over another team, due to some conceited idea that he was more righteous was utterly lost on him. The idea of him getting shipped off to Las Vegas was hilarious to me. Oh well... So, do you hate Jesus, Carr, Self Righteous people or Vegas? You were not real clear. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Laughing Coffin said: Mayock a day ago said he liked card a lot as the franchise qb ?? This had Gruden written all over it. Lets Crabtree walk, trades Mack & Cooper and now is looking to trade Carr. Good God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Prediction: The hiring of Gruden by the Raiders, and the amount of money and power given to him, will go down in NFL history as one of the most disastrous moves ever. It is so bad that this, the second year, may be his last year. But if not this year, next year. Edited March 3, 2019 by Mister Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Dolphins probably grab him. Whoever gets him needs to reunite him and Bill Musgrave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I really think Derek Carr is good - with a strong OL. Hope he doesn’t end up in AFCE He is average and I think Oakland sees that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 This qb had me so confused...by all accounts he was the next big deal at qb and then flamed out this past season ...maybe it was the coaching change??? Maybe grudens just a prick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Perhaps Gruden will attempt to help out little brother in DC. Of course Redskins have little to give unless it's a 2020 pick and McCoy. I’m not sure I follow the logic here. If Gruden doesn’t think he’s good enough to be a top QB then how would it be helping his brother to trade Carr there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 This is really interesting. I think the wildcard in all of this is Josh Rosen. If Arizona drafts Murray then Rosen probably is more attractive than Haskins as the next best QB. Mayock had Rosen as his 3rd best QB, even above Mayfield. I don't see Haskins as a Gruden type of QB. If Arizona wants a top 10 pick for Rosen this could create an opportunity for Buffalo. Rosen's contract is dirt cheap for several years as his signing bonus is already paid by Arizona. Washington is rumored to be interested in Rosen as they have cap constraints. I could see other teams being interested as well. Maybe a three way trade involving pick #9, Rosen, and a move down scenario for Buffalo? Ahhh yes......it's that time of the year! Time to work the phones Brandon Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 13 hours ago, KD in CA said: I could see him ending up with the Giants. This just might be a good fit. I wonder what it would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 12 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...shopping?...."Guy's Grocery Games " comes to mind......... It feels more like having a garage sale and then using the money to go garage sale shopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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