transplantbillsfan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) and McDermott is not only aware of it, he's good with it (some weird typos in this quote): https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/22/josh-allen-offseason-plans-buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott/amp/#click=https://t.co/Pvc3Fkqp3O “We respect and trust what Jordan (Palmer) does out there. And certainly… understand Josh’s relationship and trust with Jordan, I think that relationship is a good one,” McDermott said. “I think it’s important that (players) work with the right people,” McDermott added. “We’ll be in tough with Jordan and make sure we’ll in sync with stuff as much as possible in terms of terminology, technique, things that we feel like he’ll need to work on. Josh already went out there equipped with much of that when he left Buffalo.” Edited February 2, 2019 by transplantbillsfan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Good! Keep him working hard! i wouldn’t mind Jackson in the 5th-6th round if he’s there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Good! Keep him working hard! i wouldn’t mind Jackson in the 5th-6th round if he’s there... For what position? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I wonder if Darnold will work with Palmer too (or is already). Allen and Darnold became good friends working with Palmer before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, MJS said: I wonder if Darnold will work with Palmer too (or is already). Allen and Darnold became good friends working with Palmer before. https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/21/buffalo-tyree-jackson-jordan-palmer-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-josh-allen-sam-darnold-deshaun-watson/ You kind of have to search through it to find it but it says Allen and Darnold are actually going to help teach them protections so I'd say that's a yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 That's terrific. Allen's accuracy improved a lot throughout the pre-draft process last year as he worked with Palmer. One of the main things he worked on was mechanics, which Palmer said were a main cause of Allen's problems with accuracy. Because he ended up starting a lot of games last year, his mechanics drills regimen for accuracy ended up being a much lower priority. That's what happens when you start, you're mostly working on game planning and prep for that week. And his accuracy definitely was affected. So this could easily have a real positive impact on Allen's accuracy issues. I really hope so. Palmer does know his stuff, and will I'm sure help Allen figure out a good plan - doubtless with input from the Bills - for the offseason for Allen. Mechanics are huge for QBs. This is great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, NJKBillsfan said: Does it really do anything? Allen worked out with Palmer last off-season and pretty much had all the same flaws as he did at Wyoming. He improved his accuracy all the way through the pre-draft process. This was commented on by pretty much everyone, from Mayock To Eisen to ... well, lots and lots of people. He was expected to sit most or all of the season, which would have given him a bunch more time to keep grooving those mechanics down deeply into muscle memory. But he ended up being forced in early and pretty obviously reverted to old habits. Fair enough to say that working with Palmer isn't guaranteed to work. But it's got a very decent chance, if he can be consistent about his drills and his habits. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It's true that EJ put in a lot of off season work, so did JP, but the point is that off season work on its own isn't a cure all. However, when you combine it with the right attitude on the field, mental toughness etc. (which I believe Allen has and those other guys did not) then it can only help him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 We could have had Frank Reich! We're supposed to get all excited becuz Josh is working with a former marginal pro/college QB. Josh doesn't need a teacher. He needs a coach. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, #34fan said: We could have had Frank Reich! We're supposed to get all excited becuz Josh is working with a former marginal pro/college QB. Josh doesn't need a teacher. He needs a coach. It can easily be argued that Frank is a marginal pro/college QB. (I'm not about to, but you get my drift). Why do people not get that this is a 'win, win' situation for the Bills. CBA rules simply don't allow players to get the amount of reps/practises they need, to hone their craft. Allen working with Palmer, is an opportunity for him to do so, that doesn't contravene the CBA. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, NJKBillsfan said: Does it really do anything? Allen worked out with Palmer last off-season and pretty much had all the same flaws as he did at Wyoming. 18 minutes ago, Buddo said: It can easily be argued that Frank is a marginal pro/college QB. (I'm not about to, but you get my drift). Why do people not get that this is a 'win, win' situation for the Bills. CBA rules simply don't allow players to get the amount of reps/practises they need, to hone their craft. Allen working with Palmer, is an opportunity for him to do so, that doesn't contravene the CBA. You have to consider WHO is making posts like that. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Tyree Jackson = 6-foot-7, 245-pound ... our next TE? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 JA is working out.. Meanwhile Mahomes is Mahoming 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It's all about the proper footwork. However, If you don't start with the proper technique, then It's analogous to changing your golf swing: with enough practice and repetition you can do it; but, there will be times when you revert to what was natural before, especially in pressure situations. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'm glad Josh is out there working hard. A lot of players are on vacations or sitting around doing nothing. Our QB is right back to the grind working on his craft. No one can ever say the kid isn't putting in the effort. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, #34fan said: We could have had Frank Reich! We're supposed to get all excited becuz Josh is working with a former marginal pro/college QB. Josh doesn't need a teacher. He needs a coach. This is another one of those scenarios under which I have no clue why people are upset or critical. Do you need to be "excited?" No, but why would you "poo poo" the situation? Jordan Palmer has made a name for himself as a QB coach/instructor. He's building a business of working with young QBs to get them ready for the next step in their football careers. Josh Allen -- until the end of his last college season -- never really received solid one-on-one coaching regarding mechanics and the art of playing the position. Palmer helped him immensely last year, so he's going back to continue to work on things and this is a bad thing? I can imagine Palmer sitting down with him, now, with actual NFL game film, and working things out. That's good stuff, and Palmer can do it because he's not directly affiliated with the Bills or NFL so there are no contact restrictions during the offseason. I just don't get the negativity. Edited January 23, 2019 by eball 19 6 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, whatdrought said: Good! Keep him working hard! i wouldn’t mind Jackson in the 5th-6th round if he’s there... I was thinking about this today watching senior bowl practice. I wouldn’t mind taking a flyer in the 5th-7th round on developing a solid backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, eball said: This is another one of those scenarios under which I have no clue why people are upset or critical. Do you need to be "excited?" No, but why would you "poo poo" the situation? Jordan Palmer has made a name for himself as a QB coach/instructor. He's building a business of working with young QBs to get them ready for the next step in their football careers. Josh Allen -- until the end of his last college season -- never really received solid one-on-one coaching regarding mechanics and the art of playing the position. Palmer helped him immensely last year, so he's going back to continue to work on things and this is a bad thing? I can imagine Palmer sitting down with him, now, with actual NFL game film, and working things out. That's good stuff, and Palmer can do it because he's not directly affiliated with the Bills or NFL so there are no contact requirements during the offseason. I just don't get the negativity. It's simple. Some supposed fans of the Bills would rather be right on an Internet site than root for the Bills to succeed. Sad really. 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, #34fan said: We could have had Frank Reich! We're supposed to get all excited becuz Josh is working with a former marginal pro/college QB. Josh doesn't need a teacher. He needs a coach. beyond the snark Josh does need a coach that can teach him to develop in the areas he may still be lacking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: JA is working out.. Meanwhile Mahomes is Mahoming Josh Allen did more in his Rookie year than Mahomes did so it might be a little more logical to compare Mahomes second year to Allens second year. Mahomes is likely to come out ahead given all the weapons Mahomes had. Edited January 23, 2019 by formerlyofCtown 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, #34fan said: We could have had Frank Reich! We're supposed to get all excited becuz Josh is working with a former marginal pro/college QB. Josh doesn't need a teacher. He needs a coach. So coaches don't teach. Brilliant analysis there. 4 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Why is a pass rushing LB preparing for the draft with a QB coach.? Edited January 23, 2019 by formerlyofCtown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: So coaches don't teach. Brilliant analysis there. Everybody know that coaches coach and teachers teach. Get with the the times old man. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Everybody know that coaches coach and teachers teach. Get with the the times old man. Silly me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: JA is working out.. Meanwhile Mahomes is Mahoming you mean losing to the pats? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, whatdrought said: Good! Keep him working hard! i wouldn’t mind Jackson in the 5th-6th round if he’s there... I would really like that pick. If we are going to tailor the offense around Josh, I think a mobile backup with a big arm would be a very sound investment. I'm sure Palmer is doing very well for himself acting independently, but I kind of wish we would just make him a godfather offer to be the QB coach exclusively with Josh. Edited January 23, 2019 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, #34fan said: We could have had Frank Reich! We're supposed to get all excited becuz Josh is working with a former marginal pro/college QB. Josh doesn't need a teacher. He needs a coach. So how do you explain his improvements since Anderson got on board? He's the epitome of marginal. Quite often the marginal guys make the best teachers because they were longtime backups and spent more time working on film or imitating the opposing QB in practice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I would really like that pick. If we are going to tailor the offense around Josh, I think a mobile backup with a big arm would be a very sound investment. I'm sure Palmer is doing very well for himself acting independently, but I kind of wish we would just make him a godfather offer to be the QB coach exclusively with Josh. Part of me agrees, completely! Another part of me thinks that having Palmer work with Allen outside of the allotted timeframe provided by the CBA is incredibly more valuable. Just take a look at how restrictive the CBA really is: https://www.nflpa.com/active-players/off-season-rules Any extra, McCoach-approved tutelage under a well-respected guide like Palmer is icing, baby; pure icing. And it circumvents the CBA, legally. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 ohhhhh, but have you SEEN Palmer's footwork....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, dickleyjones said: you mean losing to the pats? You mean losing to the Refs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, #34fan said: We could have had Frank Reich! We're supposed to get all excited becuz Josh is working with a former marginal pro/college QB. Josh doesn't need a teacher. He needs a coach. Reich as HC? Because he would have been working with QB's? And he's developed...who? And Palmer is a coach. Even better, he's a coach who can work with Josh 24/7/52. Unlike NFL-employed coaches who can only have limited contact with players. 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: JA is working out.. Meanwhile Mahomes is Mahoming Mahomes is...Mahome. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Thanks for posting Transplant. Good to see JA grabbing the offseason by the proverbial horns and not taking an extended vacay somewhere waiting around for minicamp to call. He just flat out makes it easy to like him as the face of our franchise going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Buddo said: It can easily be argued that Frank is a marginal pro/college QB. (I'm not about to, but you get my drift). Why do people not get that this is a 'win, win' situation for the Bills. CBA rules simply don't allow players to get the amount of reps/practises they need, to hone their craft. Allen working with Palmer, is an opportunity for him to do so, that doesn't contravene the CBA. Great take, Rook. Great take indeed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: Part of me agrees, completely! Another part of me thinks that having Palmer work with Allen outside of the allotted timeframe provided by the CBA is incredibly more valuable. Just take a look at how restrictive the CBA really is: https://www.nflpa.com/active-players/off-season-rules Any extra, McCoach-approved tutelage under a well-respected guide like Palmer is icing, baby; pure icing. And it circumvents the CBA, legally. Plus McD indicated in the article that they will make sure Palmer is familiar with the terminology/concepts they want JA to continue to work on--what's not to like about this, right? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Thanks for posting Transplant. Good to see JA grabbing the offseason by the proverbial horns and not taking an extended vacay somewhere waiting around for minicamp to call. He just flat out makes it easy to like him as the face of our franchise going forward. I know, right Huddsy? This is honestly what I wanted to at least hear about this off season. I loved seeing Josh at a Sabres game...especially a game that was more than a week after the Bills' season ended. He was in town for a reason and it wasn't hockey. The Bills' season ended. His didn't. Edited January 23, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Palmer's retainer fees must be amazing. Basically probably takes a cut just like an agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It is amazing how some people think this is a bad thing or "it won't do anything". Pound sand already! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I know, right Huddsy? This is honestly what I wanted to at least hear about this off season. I loved seeing Josh at a Sabres game...especially a game that was more than a week after the Bills' season ended. He was in town for a reason and it wasn't hockey. The Bills' season ended. His didn't. I think that goes towards maturity and an understanding that he's just started scaling the mountain, and has earned nothing yet besides the right to become even more scrutinized this coming season. The Bills have to translate the growing pains of 2018 into additional W's in 2019, we all know that. But I feel like the foundation is being properly laid. How do you rank your feelings comparatively about the upcoming season with any since the start the turn of the century? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: and McDermott is not only aware of it, he's good with it (some weird typos in this quote): https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/22/josh-allen-offseason-plans-buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott/amp/#click=https://t.co/Pvc3Fkqp3O “We respect and trust what Jordan (Palmer) does out there. And certainly… understand Josh’s relationship and trust with Jordan, I think that relationship is a good one,” McDermott said. “I think it’s important that (players) work with the right people,” McDermott added. “We’ll be in tough with Jordan and make sure we’ll in sync with stuff as much as possible in terms of terminology, technique, things that we feel like he’ll need to work on. Josh already went out there equipped with much of that when he left Buffalo.” It seemed like Allen took steps between the Wyoming season and the Sr Bowl/regular season so hopefully it will continue to help! The only thing I would like better would be the news if he had some of our WR with him, Foster and Zay. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: ohhhhh, but have you SEEN Palmer's footwork....? Was it bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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