SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, DC Tom said: I'd never seen that angle before now. It looks even worse. you need to spend more time on the main board. (or not ignore the Pats hate threads) I've seen that a dozen times I see this and I think this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: With the exception of a couple of plays, Gronk looked last week about 10% of the star that he used to be. Amazingly even at 10% he was still better than Clay and Benjamin. I'm not sure that I have ever witnessed such a "fall off the cliff decline" in such a short period. Has anyone declined that fast in the NFL the past 20 years? I cannot think of anyone even close. Most running backs decline literally overnight. Also, Peyton Manning went from MVP numbers one season to worst QB in the league his next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Brady at 42, no Gronk, Edelman at 33 - liking the trends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Success said: Brady at 42, no Gronk, Edelman at 33 - liking the trends. still not a fair fight and they will go out and try to replace their needs not just the Bills will be doing that for next year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Captain Murica said: Yeah, I won't miss his neanderthal ass one bit. He should have been suspended for a YEAR for that cheap shot. He clearly sees his teammate touch Tredavious down out of bounds and then body slams him. Total trash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 His body's breaking down and I'd hate to be him in about 20 years. He's going to be a mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 He looked like he was carrying a refrigerator on his back most of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He looked like he was carrying a refrigerator on his back most of the year he looked like all the best English soccer players when they put that national team jersey on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 hours ago, wppete said: I read on Twitter that the Bills would try and go after him in the off season. Is this true? I dont see it happening. If they do, I might actually consider dropping my seasons. 4 hours ago, Livinginthepast said: With the exception of a couple of plays, Gronk looked last week about 10% of the star that he used to be. Amazingly even at 10% he was still better than Clay and Benjamin. I'm not sure that I have ever witnessed such a "fall off the cliff decline" in such a short period. Has anyone declined that fast in the NFL the past 20 years? I cannot think of anyone even close. My FF league does an auto draft, and I ended up with Gronk. After the first two weeks, I ended up dumping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Captain Murica said: Yeah, I won't miss his neanderthal ass one bit. No one ever did a damn thing to address that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I could see the Pats going after TJ Hockenson. Hockenson is the closest thing to Gronk to come out of college in nearly a decade. Truth be told this is the #1 guy I want in this years draft. Trade down out of 9 to the late teens (say 17, 18, 19), hopefully pick up a 2019 2nd, 2020 2nd and some mid round picks this year as well. TJ is the best TE all around balanced TE to come out since Gronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Most running backs decline literally overnight. Also, Peyton Manning went from MVP numbers one season to worst QB in the league his next season. Yes that's true, Peyton looked geriatric in that last season with the Broncos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Lurker said: His body's breaking down and I'd hate to be him in about 20 years. He's going to be a mess... I don't think he sees 20 years from now. Maybe 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 50 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: No one ever did a damn thing to address that. Yup, was a damn shame. It’s one thing to get blown out on the score board, but it’s another to allow that ding ***** for brains asshat elbow drop his 260+ lbs frame on to your franchise CB’s head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 16 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Rob Gronkowski retiring? Bills may face one fewer foe next season https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/15/buffalo-bills-new-england-patriots-rob-gronkowski-retire-retiring-next-season/ please do it. He’s still good enough to hold serve on the Pats but I’ll line up to throw the retirement party (actually, that party will probably be legendary). hes had a great run but the injuries are piling up, so its time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 He's been thinking about it for a couple seasons now. Surprised he came back last year, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 17 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: We took Torrell Troup over him. And Troup was on his way to being terrific till that back injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 20 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: We took Torrell Troup over him. with the QBs we had, he would already been out of the league too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 19 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: God, we were so soft. WE weren't. Preston Brown was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 15 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Most running backs decline literally overnight. Also, Peyton Manning went from MVP numbers one season to worst QB in the league his next season. Yes, I remember running backs back in the day like Earl Campbell and John Brockington who were 1,000 yard rushers one year and very ineffective the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 20 hours ago, Captain Murica said: Yeah, I won't miss his neanderthal ass one bit. Why a Bills player did not jump him after that still amazes me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 His ability to run has certainly diminished rapidly, however his blocking is still at an all-world level. Not having him back even at this diminished level would still be a setback for the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Magox said: His ability to run has certainly diminished rapidly, however his blocking is still at an all-world level. He did throw an excellent block on himself, when Drake ran past him in the Miami upset. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Xwnyer said: Why a Bills player did not jump him after that still amazes me This play actually made me strongly dislike Preston Brown as well as Gronkowski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 15 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: He should have been suspended for a YEAR for that cheap shot. He clearly sees his teammate touch Tredavious down out of bounds and then body slams him. Total trash! 2 things .... 1 McDermott is already yelling at the Ref for something 2 by doing so he doesn't even see that cowardly hit 1 hour ago, Xwnyer said: Why a Bills player did not jump him after that still amazes me they were getting flagged at midfield for some bogus offense (Jerry Hughes got a USP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 20 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Most running backs decline literally overnight. Also, Peyton Manning went from MVP numbers one season to worst QB in the league his next season. Some people might feel that a change from John Fox/Adam Gase to Gary Kubiak/Rick Dennison had some influence on that. Nevertheless, overall point stands. 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 2 things .... 1 McDermott is already yelling at the Ref for something 2 by doing so he doesn't even see that cowardly hit they were getting flagged at midfield for some bogus offense (Jerry Hughes got a USP) So here's a question to which I don't know the answer. Are USP additive? Because otherwise, if you're already being flagged for one, why not have at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) On 1/15/2019 at 10:40 AM, ShadyBillsFan said: I fixed that for you where's your Patriot Avatar? I understand completely what Gugny is saying and agree. I was pissed no one retaliated. It was a disgrace and the may have had something to do with Brown not being resigned. (pure speculation based on McDs comments concerning Shaqs actions) I suspect if he was close enough McD may have jumped on him and showed him some real wrestling. Edited January 17, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 7:39 PM, 1ZAYDAY1 said: I could see the Pats going after TJ Hockenson. Hockenson is the closest thing to Gronk to come out of college in nearly a decade. Truth be told this is the #1 guy I want in this years draft. Trade down out of 9 to the late teens (say 17, 18, 19), hopefully pick up a 2019 2nd, 2020 2nd and some mid round picks this year as well. TJ is the best TE all around balanced TE to come out since Gronk. I like him a lot as well. You know what's crazy is between Daboll, Rob Boras, and now Bobby Johnson we have tight end experts on staff yet we can't find one. I hope they find a way to target Hockenson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 11:22 AM, Livinginthepast said: With the exception of a couple of plays, Gronk looked last week about 10% of the star that he used to be. Amazingly even at 10% he was still better than Clay and Benjamin. I'm not sure that I have ever witnessed such a "fall off the cliff decline" in such a short period. Has anyone declined that fast in the NFL the past 20 years? I cannot think of anyone even close. The lights went out for Merriman rather abruptly. 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Some people might feel that a change from John Fox/Adam Gase to Gary Kubiak/Rick Dennison had some influence on that. Nevertheless, overall point stands. So here's a question to which I don't know the answer. Are USP additive? Because otherwise, if you're already being flagged for one, why not have at it? It's one per player/play as far as I understand the rule. Never seen the same guy flagged twice on the same play. I've seen multiple players flagged, but not one guy multiple times. Next step is ejection/fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: The lights went out for Merriman rather abruptly. Pun intended? Genius! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Yes, I remember running backs back in the day like Earl Campbell and John Brockington who were 1,000 yard rushers one year and very ineffective the following year. Juice and Earl had five great seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: The lights went out for Merriman rather abruptly. They did indeed. And the Bills enabled him (and paid him) for a couple of seasons afterwards. Hoping those days are gone. Quote It's one per player/play as far as I understand the rule. Never seen the same guy flagged twice on the same play. I've seen multiple players flagged, but not one guy multiple times. Next step is ejection/fine. OK, it's the "multiple players on one play" thing. I know they can penalize multiple players, but it seems like (in the post-late-hit Alonzo scuffle) as though the Zebras penalized two Miami players but only assessed one set of yardage? Or perhaps they subtracted Mills? 19 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: And Troup was on his way to being terrific till that back injury. Yeah, that was kind of ironic. Didn't we pass on Gronk because of concerns about a back injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK, it's the "multiple players on one play" thing. I know they can penalize multiple players, but it seems like (in the post-late-hit Alonzo scuffle) as though the Zebras penalized two Miami players but only assessed one set of yardage? Or perhaps they subtracted Mills? Not 100 % sure on PF's. It seems like regardless of # of penalties, they offset if both teams commit them. Don't quite remember exactly how that play went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So here's a question to which I don't know the answer. Are USP additive? Because otherwise, if you're already being flagged for one, why not have at it? Good question. I wish I had an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:36 AM, Gugny said: The inactions by the Bills were far worse than Gronk's actions. Both pathetic and disgusting. It wouldn’t be Rex level stupidity to respond. THIS is different level stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I hear he wants to follow in the footsteps of Brian Bosworth and become a Oscar quality actor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) That was his worst moment that I know of. I’d hate to be forever judged by my worst moment. As bad as that sucked, I hope he’s been as smart with his money as they say (living off endorsements only without spending salary), and his health holds up to the extent possible. He’s either getting great advice he’s following, or he’s not as dumb as you’d think. . Edited January 17, 2019 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) The team had no problem standing up to Kiko though after that cheap hit on Allen. Sometimes I wonder how much of these losses over the years to the Patriots came because they were just intimidated by them. I tend to think Gronk’s a bit overrated in terms of how meaningful he is to the Patriots success. If Brady/Belichick are around next year without Gronk they are still far from done imo. Edited January 17, 2019 by Another Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 11:43 AM, Success said: Brady at 42, no Gronk, Edelman at 33 - liking the trends. they still kick the bills arss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Another Fan said: The team had no problem standing up to Kiko though after that cheap hit on Allen. Sometimes I wonder how much of these losses over the years to the Patriots came because they were just intimidated by them. I tend to think Gronk’s a bit overrated in terms of how meaningful he is to the Patriots success. If Brady/Belichick are around next year without Gronk they are still far from done imo. But they are a year closer, and the end is near for Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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