MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 As per Scheftner. I have always wondered if there was ever going to be a team that would take the NFL Draft Personality and make him a GM. I guess it is the Raiders. Will be be interesting to see how he does. Someone that has just watched a lot of film. Played briefly and NEVER been in an NFL FO gets the Keys to build a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 What a terrible hire. This guy's track record on a number of positions is flat out terrible. It's 2018, and the Raiders are hiring an old school scout who doesn't believe in any analytics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Well he gets to be in the room, Gruden has the keys and that is why a guy like Mayock was picked. I've always liked Mayock. I hope he does well 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 My brother in law is a Raiders fan. For his sake I hope everything works out. Del Rio deserved to be fired, but this year has been a train wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Well he gets to be in the room, Gruden has the keys and that is why a guy like Mayock was picked. I've always liked Mayock. I hope he does well I agree that Gruden will have final say. But Mayock will be picking the scouts. Putting the reports together and building that Draft and Pro Personnel Staff. Interesting going “outside” the nepotism and recycling that always occurs in the league. On a side note. Huge Loss for NFL and their state run media channel for draft time. Edited December 31, 2018 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Being a G.M. is a lot more than just the draft. This should be interesting. More chaos with the raiders. But did they interview a minority G.M. for the job? I’m not sure about that rule. It doesn’t make sense. Edited December 31, 2018 by wppete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, jrober38 said: It's 2018, and the Raiders are hiring an old school scout who doesn't believe in any analytics. Analytics doesn't win you championships... if it did, the Cheatriots wouldn't have won as many times as they have. Analytics will go the way of the Run and Shoot as gimmicky and ineffective... Edited December 31, 2018 by EasternOHBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, wppete said: Being a G.M. is a lot more than just the draft. This should be interesting. More chaos with the raiders. But did they interview a minority G.M. for the job? I’m not sure about that rule. It doesn’t make sense. an Rapoport (@RapSheet) 12/30/18, 4:53 PM The #Raiders interviewed at least one candidate who is a minority, possibly more than one. They have fulfilled the Rooney Rule requirement and can make the hire whenever they want. Edited December 31, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, jrober38 said: What a terrible hire. This guy's track record on a number of positions is flat out terrible. It's 2018, and the Raiders are hiring an old school scout who doesn't believe in any analytics. What do you mean a “terrible track record?” He’s never worked as an NFL executive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: @Rapsheet The #Raiders interviewed at least one candidate who is a minority, possibly more than one. They have fulfilled the Rooney Rule requirement and can make the hire whenever they want. Mayock is 1/1032 Native American 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Mayock is 1/1032 Native American He identified as a minority at the time of the interview and for that reason he qualified for the rule. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 More TV guys running the team is what they needed! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Jeezus H. Christ. The Raiders are the NFL equivalent of the Trump administration -- hiring folks because the boss hears them talking on TV. What a clusterf**k. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: What do you mean a “terrible track record?” He’s never worked as an NFL executive Guys he's liked. QB, DL, OT, WR he misses all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I feel really bad for Raider fans. Going from Carr, Cooper and Mack to Gruden and Mayock. Bad owners <<<<< 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 if you or anyone had to rank the Top 150 players in the upcoming 2019 NFL draft. you are going to have a lot of misses. circumstances dictates fortunes. take Zach Prescott QB Dallas......he looked a lot better 3 years ago playing behind that loaded offensive line....now, not so much, as that line changed personnel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Analytics doesn't win you championships... if it did, the Cheatriots wouldn't have won as many times as they have. Analytics will go the way of the Run and Shoot as gimmicky and ineffective... Um ... the Pats are the most analytics- heavy franchise in the league. Ernie Adams is all I have to say. https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/01/eagles-patriots-both-relied-on-analytics-to-help-them-reach-the-super-bowl/amp/ and http://onlinedsa.merrimack.edu/new-england-patriots-data-analytics/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/19/patriots-use-analytics-but-belichick-dismisses-analytics-websites/amp/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: I feel really bad for Raider fans. Going from Carr, Cooper and Mack to Gruden and Mayock. Bad owners <<<<< ... and from Oakland to LA, then back to Oakland, and on to Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Being GM is about a lot more than scouting prospects. If I we’re a Raiders fan I’d be pretty apprehensive about this hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Mayock is 1/1032 Native American Damn you beat me too it . You won this board today sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Guys he's liked. QB, DL, OT, WR he misses all the time. Yeah but then again, every analyst has missed. I think it’s hard to hold that against him. Also the draft projections are largely for entertainment purposes, I think it’s different when it’s your actual job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I don't care about he Raiders. Does this mean Daniel Jeremiah becomes the main draft guy? I always liked him and his takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, papazoid said: if you or anyone had to rank the Top 150 players in the upcoming 2019 NFL draft. you are going to have a lot of misses. circumstances dictates fortunes. take Zach Prescott QB Dallas......he looked a lot better 3 years ago playing behind that loaded offensive line....now, not so much, as that line changed personnel. Looked a lot better since he has gotten Amari Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I agree that Gruden will have final say. But Mayock will be picking the scouts. Putting the reports together and building that Draft and Pro Personnel Staff. Interesting going “outside” the nepotism and recycling that always occurs in the league. On a side note. Huge Loss for NFL and their state run media channel for draft time. I agree that the NFL network lost their star draft guy. It stinks. Dunno how Mayock is going to win in this situation because Chuckie will have the final say on draft selections. That said Gruden looks like a total fool for allowing Mack, Cooper to leave. Those two helped propel the Boys and Bears to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I don't care about he Raiders. Does this mean Daniel Jeremiah becomes the main draft guy? I always liked him and his takes. I would guess so. DJ is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Reports indicate the job won’t be a traditional general manager position, and will report to Gruden, who will have final say on all personal decisions, including during the draft and free-agent signings http://www.philly.com/sports/mike-mayock-nfl-network-raiders-jon-gruden-draft-20181231.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: I feel really bad for Raider fans. Going from Carr, Cooper and Mack to Gruden and Mayock. Bad owners <<<<< Must be like going from...6-10 to 4-12.... 12 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Guys he's liked. QB, DL, OT, WR he misses all the time. This disqualifies him form being an NFL GM?? Sounds more like he's the perfect guy for the job, maybe overqualified... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I feel like this has to be a frontman choice. Gruden will run the entire show and he will be more a PR, face to the camera guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) I think this is a terrible hire, but in fairness Ernie Accorsi was a sports reporter (newspapers) before becoming an NFL exec. The era in which he started was very different and far less complicated, though. Edited December 31, 2018 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: What do you mean a “terrible track record?” He’s never worked as an NFL executive No - but he did analyze tons of draftees and was most often wrong. Also, the Raiders weren't the 1st to hire a GM from the boobtube - the Lions hired Matt Millen . . . hmmmm, how did that work out????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Now how am I supposed to watch the draft!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 56 minutes ago, wppete said: Being a G.M. is a lot more than just the draft. This should be interesting. More chaos with the raiders. But did they interview a minority G.M. for the job? I’m not sure about that rule. It doesn’t make sense. Rooney rule ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Lmao what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Never NEVER Give-up said: No - but he did analyze tons of draftees and was most often wrong. Also, the Raiders weren't the 1st to hire a GM from the boobtube - the Lions hired Matt Millen . . . hmmmm, how did that work out????? 2nd time the charm ? Lol. I think this experiment will be a fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Soooo why has no one pointed out that hiring Mayock is pointless.....you can get his services for FREE. He posts his rankings on the internet!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 That’s a bummer. I always enjoy Mayock’s draft analysis on NFLN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Aren't Mayock and Gruden bestfriends going back 30 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Fascinating hire. I don't think there is any possible way to predict how he'll do. From Mayock's perspective, it is a golden opportunity to put his money (or the money of the Raiders) where his mouth is. There is real risk for him in that if he flops it will show in the team and eventually get him fired if he makes too many wrong choices. I admire him for taking that risk, and leaving the cushy world of the media observer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: Rooney rule ? Should it really apply? The last guy was black..... 13 minutes ago, peterpan said: Soooo why has no one pointed out that hiring Mayock is pointless.....you can get his services for FREE. He posts his rankings on the internet!!! But now the Raiders will be the only ones to get it! By hiring him the rest of the league wont have his great insight.... None of it really matters, Gruden is Coach/GM/President of that team and its him calling the shots, Mayocks position will be to hold the title in meetings and give his opinions and insight and be Grudens lackey........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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