Bray Wyatt Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 would we have to let him and shaq battle it out in the octagon first if we were to sign him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 13 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I'd still take a flier on him on a one year prove it deal if available. Him n Shady as a 1A and 1B could be interesting. If he doesn't buy in cut him Immediately. Yikes! How about they just move on? Bills need to draft a RB, not continue with declining production vets. Sheesh... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, CSBill said: If I were the Bills management, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. The perfect back for what this team needs going forward. And toxic for the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 14 hours ago, BillsVet said: Fournette is quickly becoming Trent Richardson 2.0 Acknowledging that you're out of shape, getting into on-field fights, and all while on a team overseen by Tom Coughlin is not the way to start a career. Trent Richardson sucked. Worst runningback IQ I've seen. Fournette's just a head case. But so so so much better. There's way better comparisons to make here lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Trent Richardson sucked. Worst runningback IQ I've seen. Fournette's just a head case. But so so so much better. There's way better comparisons to make here lol. the effect of expecting Bama skill players to be of much use in real NFL football.... works great with a system that whips Citadel though (there are a few exceptions over the last 50 years....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Can they void the bonus money and keep him?? That doesn't really make sense. I could see them maybe getting out of the bonus money if they release him maybe? It's a fully guaranteed contract and he was docked game checks for every game he missed due to suspensions. 16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yikes! How about they just move on? Bills need to draft a RB, not continue with declining production vets. Sheesh... Fournette's never really had production - his career rush average is sub 4.0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I would not mind him on a team friendly and knucklehead proof contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, dneveu said: Can they void the bonus money and keep him?? That doesn't really make sense. I could see them maybe getting out of the bonus money if they release him maybe? It's a fully guaranteed contract and he was docked game checks for every game he missed due to suspensions. Fournette's never really had production - his career rush average is sub 4.0. RB stats on their own are of little value in the context of the way the games are played out in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, dneveu said: Can they void the bonus money and keep him?? That doesn't really make sense. I could see them maybe getting out of the bonus money if they release him maybe? It's a fully guaranteed contract and he was docked game checks for every game he missed due to suspensions. It's the guarantes that are voided not the money. They are paying him the same amount as before, but it's no longer guaranteed. So they can cut him and have no dead money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Dumb move by Jags. Good luck getting any big time FA's with GTD money to come play for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, dneveu said: Can they void the bonus money and keep him?? That doesn't really make sense. I could see them maybe getting out of the bonus money if they release him maybe? It's a fully guaranteed contract and he was docked game checks for every game he missed due to suspensions. Fournette's never really had production - his career rush average is sub 4.0. No they can't void bonus money. Yes they get refunded for games while he's suspended, and can even demand a refund for the portion of the bonus money attributed to the games missed by suspension. What's voided is his remaining future guarantees, which means his guaranteed salary (2019 - 2020) is no longer guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: It's the guarantes that are voided not the money. They are paying him the same amount as before, but it's no longer guaranteed. So they can cut him and have no dead money Ah - he's probably fine with it too. Toxic team down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Again, David Caldwell will Trade a Top 5 pick for a return of around a 3rd rounder. How he still has a job is beyond me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 The way he runs is not the way you want a pro to run. As a pro you must advoid contact as much as possible- no long term back beside AP looks for contact and survives amd even he has lost entire seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 He’s definitely not good. I think he’s borderline the most overrated player in the league. I will say though he absolutely ran us over and had he not been thrown out, we would have lost that game. For whatever reason he brought it that day but overall I still don’t think he’s good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 This is what happens when your agent is Jay-Z. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Punishing a player for sticking up for the team on the field? Even if out of line thats not enough. There was def bad blood brewing, its probobly a lot of things combined not just the fight. I could imagine Fortunette and a 2nd or 3rd round pick going to Oakland for Derrek Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I'd much rather have Yeldon. LF cant catch. Allen needs a dual threat at RB. LF would of been a HOFer in the 70s or 80s but not in today's NFL. If he came at the veteran minimum...... maybe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) Stupid pick by the Jags to begin with at pick 4...dude wasn't ever going to be a Gurley/Barkley type generational back in the NFL...they basically turned the clock back to 1984 with that pick... Edited January 1, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 11:34 PM, BillsVet said: Well, if oranges come in red and are in the red delicious box at the store, then yes: Richardson in 2012: 15 gp / 267 carries / 950 yards / 3.6 avg /11 TD in 2013: 16 gp / 188 carries / 563 yards / 3.0 avg / 3 TD Fournette in 2017: 13 gp / 268 carries / 1040 yards / 3.9 avg / 9 TD in 2018: 8 gp / 133 carries / 439 yards / 3.3 avg / 5 TD Umm he was a beast his rookie year! People stacked the boss stop Fournette.. also look at your stats.. Fournette equaled or surpassed Richardson playing in HALF the games. They are not the same player by any means.. also in year 2 Richardson had Andrew freakjbgvLuck as his QB and put up those numbers.. while Fournette still had Blake “how the heck I get an extension” Bortles! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I wouldn’t be opposed to acquiring him with late round pick but not sure he is a “process” guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 23 hours ago, DCOrange said: If Jacksonville releases Fournette, I might show interest. I don't really want to be paying a two-down RB who isn't all that good on those two downs the amount of money Jacksonville is currently paying him though. We can send shaq to pick him up from the airport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It's not like defenses had to be concerned with any of their QBs. The team, as a whole, regressed this season. I don't think Fournette's performance in 2018 is an indictment of his ability. With a glaring need at the position and a good amount of cap room, if he's released, you better believe McBeane will be all over it. Edited January 2, 2019 by Chicken Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Fournette may never be healthy. However, he also was over used in Jacksonville. Bortles could only throw 3 routes, and teams stacked the box begging them to throw. I would offer a mid rd pick for him in a heartbeat. Power running game with Allen will be deadly. This offseason Buffalo needs to sign a veteran and draft 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Fournette may never be healthy. However, he also was over used in Jacksonville. Bortles could only throw 3 routes, and teams stacked the box begging them to throw. I would offer a mid rd pick for him in a heartbeat. Power running game with Allen will be deadly. This offseason Buffalo needs to sign a veteran and draft 1. He had a full workload as a rookie, but wasn't that over-used. No reason to spend high dollars and/or trade value on a guy with a crap attitude. They should draft a RB in the mid-rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 He couldn't stay healthy at LSU. Smells of PEDs but maybe its just bad luck. No need to draft a RB that high. They are the product of the o-line and to some degree the QB situation. My hunch is they can't void his contract guarantees so easily. His suspension really wasn't for off the field behavior like AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Not to needlessly bump an old thread, but the Jags just signed Thomas Rawls. It flew under the radar and it’s likely nothing, but he has a similar style to fournette. Interesting in the larger scheme. https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/Article/Thomas-Rawls-signs-Jaguars-127583802/Amp/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I'd give up a 2nd for him. I'm much higher on him than most the opinions I've seen here. The guy can catch the ball contrary to popular belief and he's an agile straight up truck, which is just the kind of running we need with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 1:07 PM, Mr. WEO said: Yikes! How about they just move on? Bills need to draft a RB, not continue with declining production vets. Sheesh... Um ... isn't he 23? He's clearly talented. I'm not saying that I want this to happen, mind you, but he's hardly a "declining vet." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Um ... isn't he 23? He's clearly talented. I'm not saying that I want this to happen, mind you, but he's hardly a "declining vet." He's also the right body type to counter the trend towards permanent nickel/dime defense that we're seeing. Defenses are smaller and faster, not the worst time to be able to run heavy between the tackles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Um ... isn't he 23? He's clearly talented. I'm not saying that I want this to happen, mind you, but he's hardly a "declining vet." He's 23. 3rd year vet coming up. He went from 3.9 to 3.3 YPC. Steep decline. He's being dangled by a team that is desperate for offensive playmakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: He's also the right body type to counter the trend towards permanent nickel/dime defense that we're seeing. Defenses are smaller and faster, not the worst time to be able to run heavy between the tackles. I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's the only guy on that team with any life in them. i bet he'd come here with a giant chip on his should to the rest of the league, and if he could buy into the process, be a dominant back for a long time. He's in a terrible situation in Jax and clearly wants out, i think that was reflected in his attitude the second half of this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He's 23. 3rd year vet coming up. He went from 3.9 to 3.3 YPC. Steep decline. He's being dangled by a team that is desperate for offensive playmakers. He's played for a team with no QB threat. Teams played to stop him and make Jags QBs beat you. Don't fret though, he'll end up in NE, thrash the Bills two times a year and allow Brady to play two more years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, the skycap said: He's played for a team with no QB threat. Teams played to stop him and make Jags QBs beat you. Don't fret though, he'll end up in NE, thrash the Bills two times a year and allow Brady to play two more years The Pats would much enjoy have this man on the roster, run him when it was optimal and not running him when the passing game was working fine that given game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 His piss poor season voided my ability to win Fantasy football after picking him early... so I’m fine with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, the skycap said: He's played for a team with no QB threat. Teams played to stop him and make Jags QBs beat you. Don't fret though, he'll end up in NE, thrash the Bills two times a year and allow Brady to play two more years Bortles threw for more yards than Mariota or Rosen or Dalton, yet their RBs were all close to or over 1000 yards. Who was the QB threat in SF? A guy named Matt Breida had 814 yards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bortles threw for more yards than Mariota or Rosen or Dalton, yet their RBs were all close to or over 1000 yards. Who was the QB threat in SF? A guy named Matt Breida had 814 yards. Mariota, Rosen and Dalton all are threats to beat you with their arms. Let's not downplay what Nick Mullens did through the air for the Niners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 He was a terrible pick and doesn’t fit the new nfl at all. They used a top 5 pick on LeGarrett Blount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Magox said: I'd give up a 2nd for him. I'm much higher on him than most the opinions I've seen here. The guy can catch the ball contrary to popular belief and he's an agile straight up truck, which is just the kind of running we need with this team. Yeah the ppl saying he sucks are crazy. The guy was a beast his rookie year. We also could NOT tackle him a few months ago. Jags fell off as a whole this year and bortles is garbage. That is the real problem there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts