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We Are In Good Shape. Who Would You Dump Next Year?


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3 hours ago, Buftex said:

Honestly, I know it has become the narrative that Kelvin Benjamin "doesn't even try"...I think that is BS.  I think he tries, and he cares...did anyone ever stop to think that he just many not be that talented?

its a bit of both his effort isnt where it needs to be on some plays..he doesn't take every play off..but honestly he doesn't get seperation he didnt didnt in college at fla state either hes honestly a tight end playing wr he doenst have the suddenness needed to be a wr.

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2 hours ago, SCBills said:

Im fine with keeping Bodine and Mills.  They are both average and should be fine if we bring in 2 new above average O-Linemen in FA and/or the Draft to go with Dawkins and Teller.  

 

I agree with you regarding Bodine and Mills but I see them as depth..

 

Would also bring back Bottiger to compete for a spot.

 

Teller and Dawkins are no brainers..

 

From the current line up, I would move on from Groy, Ducasse, McDermott and Miller..

 

Need at least 2 FA, a high and Day 3 picks to replace..

 

 

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I keep seeing Derek Anderson on the list but it seems like Allen and Anderson have formed a good bond and Anderson has been a mentor. I don't think having Anderson as a third stringer is a bad thing. I wouldn't want Anderson as a backup but as a veteran mentor yes. 

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Depends. like a lot of other people, happy to wave goodbye to Benjamin and Clay. If Shady is also let go, that would be the three senior offensive skills players gone. Would need to bring in some skilled and experienced replacements.

Danny Crossman shouldn’t be here again.

Otherwise, I think decisions will be made on  the mix of experience and youth as well as individual onfield production. 

The way Josh Allen is progressing, depending on what is happening behind the scenes, I would hire Derek Anderson as a quarterbacks coach.

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2 hours ago, CLTbills said:

Whoever the guy is in the booth that tells the HC when to challenge a play. That guy’s gotta go!

0-6 on challenges. Today's was silly. Sean better start making some better decisions on who he surrounds himself with.

2 minutes ago, Jeff1954 said:

Depends. like a lot of other people, happy to wave goodbye to Benjamin and Clay. If Shady is also let go, that would be the three senior offensive skills players gone. Would need to bring in some skilled and experienced replacements.

Danny Crossman shouldn’t be here again.

Otherwise, I think decisions will be made on  the mix of experience and youth as well as individual onfield production. 

The way Josh Allen is progressing, depending on what is happening behind the scenes, I would hire Derek Anderson as a quarterbacks coach.

Completely agree. Would love to see Anderson brought on. Culley is a wr guy, not a qb....

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3 hours ago, Buftex said:

Honestly, I know it has become the narrative that Kelvin Benjamin "doesn't even try"...I think that is BS.  I think he tries, and he cares...did anyone ever stop to think that he just many not be that talented?

 

I disagree, his level of effort is sloppy, disengaged, and plays with no heart.  He has no fight in him 

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Beane insisted Shady wasn't going to be traded and will be a part of this team's plans for 2019, and I have no reason not to believe him. I thought he and the team would be better off if we traded him before the deadline, but here we are. If there's a trade offer we can't refuse, pull the trigger by all means, but if not, actually try to get some OL that can run block and spend a mid round draft pick on a potential replacement.

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4 hours ago, Irv said:

OK we lost.  So I looked at the roster.  Unlike a lot of years, I like most of these guys.  The back-up's have played really well.  I'm not a cap guru but I could do without these guys.  Not too many:

 

Derek Anderson

Ray Ray McCloud

Logan Thomas

Vlad Ducasse

Charles Clay

Kelvin Benjamin  

 

The first 4 guys try hard.  The last two guys make me want to throw up.  I like the rest of the roster.  The last couple of years I could have doubled the number on that list.  I trust the process.  

 

And

John Miller

Jordan Mills

Andre Holmes

Deonta Thompson

Trent Murphy

Some backup LBs

 

 

5 hours ago, RiotAct said:

hate to say it, but: Lesean McCoy.

 

yep

 

 

4 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Bad is one thing, expensive and bad is another. Clay has to go, and KB is off to greener pastures with his contract up. Shocking that a guy in his contract year couldn’t be bothered to even TRY. 

 

im expecting KB to be off to browner pastures

 

 

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8 hours ago, Peace Frog said:

In this order:

1. Kelvin Benjamin

2. Charles Clay

3. Vlad Ducasse

4. LeSean McCoy

5. Derek Anderson

6. Russell Bodine

7. Ryan Groy

8. Jordan Mills

9. John Miller

 

 

I'm smelling a $90 million spending spree, all on O-line ??? 

 

But that is probably what we need. Just save a few bucks for WR and TE. 

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9 hours ago, Peace Frog said:

In this order:

1. Kelvin Benjamin

2. Charles Clay

3. Vlad Ducasse

4. LeSean McCoy

5. Derek Anderson

6. Russell Bodine

7. Ryan Groy

8. Jordan Mills

9. John Miller

 

 

This is a more realistic list.  McCloud and Thomas may get cut in training camp next year, but I don't think they will be cut ahead of that.  Pretty clear that OL and WR is where our issues are

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9 hours ago, billspro said:

 

I would rather get rid of an RB a year too soon than a year too late

Agree and with his cap hit see if ya can trade him for a late round pick.  Maybe it’s the poor blocking but he sure seems to be losing a step

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I’m kinda shocked how many people want to cut shady.. In a year we don’t need the cap savings? Pay the guy, let him play, draft a younger guy or sign a free agent to compete in the committee. Rather he’s lost a step, or the line is just that bad there’s zero reason to cut him. He has leadership qualities just like Lorax and Kyle and it’s not like we’re hurting for the cap relief. He could be trade bait next year or be a key rotational player in a committee. At this stage with so much cap and a mostly set defense there’s no reason to create more holes. We are desperate for anyone on offense who can make plays so of course we need to add talent all across the offense. I just don’t see a reason to cut McCoy, he can still be a weapon. 

And im no shady fan really, I think a lot of people forget this is the runner he’s always been. Dancing and losing yards all the time, only difference is he’s not ripping any big runs this year to offset all the losses 

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9 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I’d get rid of McCoy too.  Has a cap hit of nearly 9 million too.  He just seems to be slowing down a bit.  

for the life of me i cannot figure out why they keep feeding him the ball when he is having no success....with his running style vs. a stacked box. as almost every other week, i felt they should have used ivory and murphy much more.  i care more about wins than i do shady chasing the hof.

 

my list is similar i guess to most...

kb

clay

ducasse

anderson

rayray

mills

maybe get a pick for shady

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6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

0-6 on challenges. Today's was silly. Sean better start making some better decisions on who he surrounds himself with.

Completely agree. Would love to see Anderson brought on. Culley is a wr guy, not a qb....

I agree... Can't blame McDermott himself for it because there's no way he could have seen a replay himself to be able to challenge it, so he's relying on whoever it is upstairs to tell him when to throw it. But god. I think he's won ONE challenge as our HC in almost two full seasons.

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13 minutes ago, CLTbills said:

I agree... Can't blame McDermott himself for it because there's no way he could have seen a replay himself to be able to challenge it, so he's relying on whoever it is upstairs to tell him when to throw it. But god. I think he's won ONE challenge as our HC in almost two full seasons.

 

It's almost as if the refs have something to do with all of these challenges going against us ?

 

Nah... couldn't be.

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12 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said:

 

It's almost as if the refs have something to do with all of these challenges going against us ?

 

Nah... couldn't be.

Officiating was awful yesterday... But we lose challenges because we challenge things that we have no chance of winning. 

 

How many times did Josh take shots to the head yesterday after the play?

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30 minutes ago, Mountain Man said:

You always need cap savings, it's how you generate cap space to invest

Ok well here’s the real question then.. 

Theres 90 million available to spend in free agency, does keeping McCoy stop them from signing anyone? Will his cap savings be the difference in landing decent players? And can they bring in anyone who can do what shady does for the same or less money? I’m sure they can find someone cheaper to dance around for 2-4 yard losses lol, but the leadership role he’s assumed on the team is hard to replace

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11 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

He will be gone and it's why it was a mistake not to move him at the deadline when we could have gotten something for him.

 

 

 

I will be pissed if they just let him go because of this reason here. As fans we heard 2 3rd round picks. I would have settled for just 1.

 

Now if we don’t get anything at all!!!! Knowing this team was going no where this year will leave me questioning Beane.

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Re:Clay

 

He isn't a great player but most don't recognize he is average or slightly above in this league. We could do much worse, I believe.  The setback with Clay is he's not what the offense needs. Nor is DiMarco.  But when we both want them they're fairly tolerable.

 

DiMarco has been a difference maker this year more than last. 

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