dma0034 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I believe this is the first time Belichick has traded with the Browns.... is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, dma0034 said: I believe this is the first time Belichick has traded with the Browns.... is that correct? Jamie Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It must be nice to root for an organization that collects talent with an eye towards winning games in the present tense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I think I figured this board out! Before the trade most of the board was complaining that Josh Gordon was too much of a risk and probably won’t play another game in the league. After the trade most most of the board is complaining that the Pats continue to make brilliant moves and the Bills suck and Josh Gordon is Randy Moss 2.0. So, my analysis is that people only come here to complain, with a few exceptions. ** I would have loved if the Bills gave up a conditional low round pick for Gordon - as Majbobby made a good case for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, dubs said: I think I figured this board out! Before the trade most of the board was complaining that Josh Gordon was too much of a risk and probably won’t play another game in the league. After the trade most most of the board is complaining that the Pats continue to make brilliant moves and the Bills suck and Josh Gordon is Randy Moss 2.0. So, my analysis is that people only come here to complain, with a few exceptions. ** I would have loved if the Bills gave up a conditional low round pick for Gordon - as Majbobby made a good case for. Why don't you find and quote a poster who has said both things? That would make your point more impactful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Why don't you find and quote a poster who has said both things? That would make your point more impactful. Thats my point! Not that people are flip flopping (although that does happen). It’s that many people just come on and make negative posts so every thread seems negative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Can we start the countdown for when he's released by the Pats?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: So what? The kid unfortunately will likely screw up again and Belichick will show him the door I kinda agree. There is a CHANCE this may work out for the Pats, but I put that at well under 50%. The Pats are taking on WRs the Browns don't want anymore, and one that the Bills got rid of pretty quick. Also, I'm not saying that Brady can't adjust to differnet WR styles (I'm sure he can) but it seems the Pats offense is predicated on WR's that do not pay the game Gordon does. They live on short slants, hitches, and the WR's knowing exactly what to do and being on the same page as Brady. Cooks last year was a big time WR, downfield threat and the Pats didn't want him after just one year anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The best part is they released coleman to make room for him. Yet some fans were going nuts when we released him and they signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Lurker said: Can we start the countdown for when he's released by the Pats?.... Jarvis Landry after he melts down because Tyrod isn't getting him the ball enuf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Of all teams, dealing him to the ´Évil Empire´. WTH is wrong with Cleveland?! I hope that Godforsaken, tire fire of a franchise eternally burns in hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 ...Coleman out and Gordon in.....guess Belichick took the lesser of TWO evils.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Not good enough for the Bills according to some of our fans, but he'll go to New England and now we'll fail to cover him for 2 games this year. You could have copied and pasted this from a thread about Corey Coleman or Brandon Reilly and it wouldn't surprise me if you actually did. 51 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I said it would take a 5th to get the trade done. What did it take again?? Did anyone argue with you? I'm surprised in the opposite direction. I would have thought a 6th rounder would get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: I know three things about Josh Gordon. His atrocious record with Baylor, the league, weed, suspensions, the Browns, availability, etc. One of worst ever. His outrageous skills and production when playing with Baylor, the Browns, the league, etc. One of very best in league. Top 5. Contrary to popular belief, he is a thoughtful guy, not at all a thug, not a jerk, not as one would assume he is if you take the time to learn a lot about him. What I don't know is how he is in practice and around his teammates. it seems as though he tries when he is there. I think, but I don't know at all, that his teammates liked him. I haven't seen stories to the opposite. To me he is Terrell Owens. A lot of fans hated him and his antics. To me, he worked his ass off, blocked well, never took plays off, and when he was traded to the Bills was a model citizen, even though I know and knew for sure he did some outrageously stupid things in the past. He can help Josh a lot by getting open, getting deep, taking the defense's focus off other receivers, making plays, scoring TDs, etc. He did it for Tyrod in his only game this year. IF he is a player who tries in practice and isn't a jerk. I don't know that he is a locker room or practice player cancer at all. And I know it's a 10% chance he plays, plays the whole season for anyone, and does well. I'll take that chance considering we have Andre Holmes as our #3. I disagree. And I’ll leave it at that. Except to say the Owens comparison is apt in terms of pure talent. But that’s where it ends for me. If Gordon ever shows an ounce of the same football character that Owens did, I’ll change my stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Well i hope he fails a test now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) Teams just love to keep helping NE acquire talent. Maybe one of these AFC teams will grow a pair and stop them from ruining Super Bowl Sunday this year. Please? I just want to relax and enjoy the game without my heart pounding out of my chest and frothing at the mouth like a lunatic the entire time. I don't think I sleep for 2 days after a NE Super Bowl. It's too much. Edited September 17, 2018 by TheFunPolice 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 49 minutes ago, Success said: So, the Pats own the entire AFC for 2 decades. Finally, this year, a possible Achilles heel...bad wr corps. And Cleveland decides to throw them a life preserver, for a player that will probably never start for them. I hate other teams for doing this. Yeah, the least that they could have done was trade him to a NFC team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Teams just love to keep helping NE acquire talent. Maybe one of these AFC teams will grow a pair and stop them from ruining Super Bowl Sunday this year. Please? I just want to relax and enjoy the game without my heart pounding out of my chest and frothing at the mouth like a lunatic the entire time. I don't think I sleep for 2 days after a NE Super Bowl. It's too much. Have you considered not watching, or maybe lighting up before the game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Good Luck Josh. Stay clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Fadingpain said: Have you considered not watching, or maybe lighting up before the game? lol Can't not watch... In the end, watching NE lose a Super Bowl is one of the greatest feelings in sports. But it's the risk that they might win that is too much to handle. I literally cannot watch their games UNLESS it's like yesterday where I turn it on with 2:00 to go and the other team has the ball and an 11 point lead. EVEN THEN I'm nervous, expecting a fumble return for a TD and an onside kick with a hail mary to win it for NE, rather than the FG to tie it up. Just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Well, I'm glad I did not drop in FF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: I kinda agree. There is a CHANCE this may work out for the Pats, but I put that at well under 50%. The Pats are taking on WRs the Browns don't want anymore, and one that the Bills got rid of pretty quick. Also, I'm not saying that Brady can't adjust to differnet WR styles (I'm sure he can) but it seems the Pats offense is predicated on WR's that do not pay the game Gordon does. They live on short slants, hitches, and the WR's knowing exactly what to do and being on the same page as Brady. Cooks last year was a big time WR, downfield threat and the Pats didn't want him after just one year anymore. Cooks was NOT getting paid by the Pats so a 1st for him was the best they could hope for. Also Brady has had many crappy receivers look good, like Bug eyes Caldwell, and Brady also worked well with Randy Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Of all teams, dealing him to the ´Évil Empire´. WTH is wrong with Cleveland?! I hope that Godforsaken, tire fire of a franchise eternally burns in hell. Well, Bill B is the master of the "Dark Side." Perhaps this was done with a little telekinetic "persuasion." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) I wonder what made Cleveland all of a sudden decide to part ways with him? Seems like odd timing to me. They just decided after week #1 that it was time to part ways? Hopefully they caught wind of another "random" test Edited September 17, 2018 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 7:40 PM, Dablitzkrieg said: There is zero chance the Bills bring him in, unfortunately I've been defending Beane but I'm beginning to wonder now myself. We are in desperate need of receivers and he is on the cheap for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: I wonder what made Cleveland all of a sudden decide to part ways with him? Seems like odd timing to me. They just decided after week #1 that it was time to part ways? Hopefully they caught wind of another "random" test IF the test was done before the trade I do believe that would nullify the trade if he failed IF they knowingly hid the fact. (As in that he failed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: I wonder what made Cleveland all of a sudden decide to part ways with him? Seems like odd timing to me. They just decided after week #1 that it was time to part ways? Hopefully they caught wind of another "random" test He injured his hamstring in a promotional event not sponsored by the team on fri night, couldn’t play vs Saints, and showed up late looking “under the influence” on Saturday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Jamie Collins Danny Shelton for a 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 !@#$ we didn't offer the Browns at least a 5th for Josh? I guess Mr Beane is satisfied with Kelvin, 2 rookies, Holmes at WR. !@#$ CB, WR, and Oline. Our Front Office has been ignoring these for years THE FACT JOSH IS A PATRIOT FOR A 5TH- SAME OLD BILLS, SAME OLD PATS We will send a 7th for Corey Coleman, but not a 5th for Josh- WTF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pete said: !@#$ we didn't offer the Browns at least a 5th for Josh? I guess Mr Beane is satisfied with Kelvin, 2 rookies, Holmes at WR. !@#$ CB, WR, and Oline. Our Front Office has been ignoring these for years Maybe they did offer something, who knows. But these two teams are in very different places. The Pats don’t care about the future. They don’t care about draft picks. They are ready to win another SB now and have a very tight window to do so. Brady is 41. The Bills are completely looking to the future. They aren’t trading draft picks for a guy with one foot out of the league, and a very low chance of succeeding with a rookie Qb as has been proven for years. Any WR they pick up now should be on a multi-year deal and not a clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Patriots are also the masters of getting a pick back on a trade. They even covered the downside if hes not active for 10 games they get a 7th from Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Of all teams, dealing him to the ´Évil Empire´. WTH is wrong with Cleveland?! I hope that Godforsaken, tire fire of a franchise eternally burns in hell. Have you been payin attention for the last ten years? They're doing just that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 A game too late. And by the time the Cheaters meet back up with the Jags in Jax, he'll probably be suspended for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 After what Vontae just did, do you really think that McDermott would want to bring in Josh Gordon? No question the guy is supremely talented, but who knows if you can count on him for a game let alone a season. A perennial playoff/SuperBowl team, with a hard-nosed coach, a great QB, and tons of leadership (aka the Patriots) might be able to get something out of Josh and keep him in line long enough for him to help them. But the current Bills are still trying to find their way. They have a lot of young guys playing important roles, etc. They don't need any more distractions than what they are currently dealing with. One WR was not going to turn this team around this year...the only thing that will make this a winning season is the same thing as last year, character, leadership, not giving up, playing as a team, coaching. We don't have enough talent to just outplay other teams (at least the better teams in the league) right now and Gordon would not have put us over the top talent-wise, so why risk the headache. Especially knowing that it would most likely be just a 14-game rental as we have lots of picks and money to get WRs next year (and I just don't see Josh holding it together for two or more consecutive seasons). This wasn't a case of him doing some things to force his way out of Cleveland, all of the issues were just who he is, what he is dealing with. I wish the guy luck in his life (not necessarily with the Patriots). But it is obvious to me (and a good decision) why the Bills wouldn't be interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 34 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: I wonder what made Cleveland all of a sudden decide to part ways with him? Seems like odd timing to me. They just decided after week #1 that it was time to part ways? Hopefully they caught wind of another "random" test They should have a very young club - maybe ditch the cancer before it taints other apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, Pete said: !@#$ we didn't offer the Browns at least a 5th for Josh? I guess Mr Beane is satisfied with Kelvin, 2 rookies, Holmes at WR. !@#$ CB, WR, and Oline. Our Front Office has been ignoring these for years THE FACT JOSH IS A PATRIOT FOR A 5TH- SAME OLD BILLS, SAME OLD PATS We will send a 7th for Corey Coleman, but not a 5th for Josh- WTF?? The bolded part is what is so maddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I also think we should have gone after Gordon. However I wouldn't give up a 5th for just this year. I would need convincing that he'd want to and that I'd (as GM) want him beyond this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicken Boo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 How does this continue to happen?! Nobody learned from the Moss trade? Not a process guy, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Let’s all send him a beer or smoke to congratulate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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