26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 It may be different in the regular season, but thus far I see no impact in a positive sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 So in other words the same player he has always been. With the exception of his rookie year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Lotulelei? Really? How about Tremaine Edmunds just running into the defensive linemens' back every play?! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 It's in the past. A long football time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Somebody once said his impact is made taking on the entire o-line so everyone else can make a play. A truly unselfish individual who fully buys into the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Logic said: Lotulelei? Really? How about Tremaine Edmunds just running into the defensive linemens' back every play?! I saw that too, however Edmunds made a couple of good tackles tonight. He definitely played better. I'm not worried about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 5.1 yards per rush. Might be a lot of stern words this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Let’s call this a work in progress, and pray it’s fixed by week 1. I’ll trust the Process to figure this out. It might take some time, however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I'm more worried about the linebackers. Edmunds gets a pass. He's just getting his feet wet and the athleticism is obvious. I think he just needs experience. But the rest of this group, to me anyway, are backup quality at best. I've seen nothing positive from Milano in 2 games and he is undersized to begin with. I think this is an area of dire need for next year (if not sooner off the waiver wire). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I have a hard time going against McDermott here because he knows the player better than any of us - and he wanted him. I agree with you guys here that he noticeably was very bad tonight. When he and Washington were in the game it was not good at all. On the flip side I could easily see how players may want to proceed with caution in the pre season. I hope that's the case with Star. I wonder what McDermotts view on this is. Does he want players giving everything they have while they're in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Somebody once said his impact is made taking on the entire o-line so everyone else can make a play. A truly unselfish individual who fully buys into the process. or he is most likely going to be a flop he is a classic lazy DT with no skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Both the starting OLine and DLine gave reasons for us to be scared... to say nothing of whichever QB gets the #1 spot. The 2nd and 3rd units did well, but the 1st were pushed around bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Can’t say I am a fan of Star and thought they overpaid for him... McDermott and Beane know him better than I do though but then Tolbert and DiMarco haven’t been great either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 How many snaps did he take tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Murphy is hurt and God knows when he'll be ready? Star is hardly a star. Edmund's is lost and struggling. Kyle may be out for a while. Yikes?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Line play on both sides of the ball is a major concern-- as always. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Fan in LA Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Yeah, I'm afraid we saw the real 2018 Bills tonight. We're definitely rebuilding the Oline and the DLine., and LB's............. again. We're thin.......at several key positions............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, B Fan in LA said: Yeah, I'm afraid we saw the real 2018 Bills tonight. We're definitely rebuilding the Oline and the DLine., and LB's............. again. We're thin.......at several key positions............ Well... The Bills started the game with four straight 3-and-outs on offense, were getting gashed by Cleveland on defense, and were down by 7 on the scoreboard. After that, they scored on three straight drives, mostly shut down the Cleveland offense, and wound up winning the game. So which of those segments represent the "real 2018 Bills"? Just curious. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Star and Murphy were two very expensive and so far useless signings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Elite Poster said: Star and Murphy were two very expensive and so far useless signings. Darn if we are not getting our money's worth in pre season DAMN THEM 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Logic said: Lotulelei? Really? How about Tremaine Edmunds just running into the defensive linemens' back every play?! Look, we have to give Edmunds time. He's just 20 years old. He's going to be a stud. You can see how fast he is but he need to get stronger. I can remember how awful Talley was as a rookie. They are throwing a lot at the kid. Stand back and see the kid become an all pro in a couple of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKBills25 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Star looked horrible tonight , I still don’t understand the signing ? Also if Murphy stays hurt for som reason the Mack trade would all but make more sense , no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Sure, it would be nice if we weren't getting gashed in the running game...but it is pre-season. Take a deep breath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Logic said: Well... The Bills started the game with four straight 3-and-outs on offense, were getting gashed by Cleveland on defense, and were down by 7 on the scoreboard. After that, they scored on three straight drives, mostly shut down the Cleveland offense, and wound up winning the game. So which of those segments represent the "real 2018 Bills"? Just curious. The Bills success or lack of matched up rather well with whether the Browns first or second teams were on the field. Just maybe, that has something to do with it. We are sure to find out in Game 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Run D is hard to evaluate in preseason. Run defense is as much mental as physical. What I saw was poor run fits by LBs and DBs. That stuff will get cleaned up. Star takes the double but this is obviously a mental breakdown by LBs. My guess is Milano filled the wrong hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Again, watch Milano. Edmunds also lost, he improves as the game goes on though. White didn't want to tackle. Edited August 18, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Yeah, neither line looked too well last night. The run D looked eerily familiar to last season. I will give it a pass now, but something to keep a close eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 lol, how ridiculous. Bruce Smith always made a huge impact in Pre-season game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hyde also played at OSU? Right? Why is he doing Zeke’s thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, CSBill said: Yeah, neither line looked too well last night. The run D looked eerily familiar to last season. I will give it a pass now, but something to keep a close eye on. It's the linebackers . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: It's the linebackers . I was gonna say this...LBs did nothing good last night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: lol, how ridiculous. Bruce Smith always made a huge impact in Pre-season game 2 Yeah. Star is a Bruce Smith caliber player so no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 They were to worried about tuhrod passing to stop the run 7 hours ago, Yeezus said: or he is most likely going to be a flop he is a classic lazy DT with no skill. Classic yeezus take 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Star and Trent Murphy were the tw big free agent defensive ‘splashed’. I know it’s only preseason but so far it’s been a belly flop. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Star and Trent Murphy were the tw big free agent defensive ‘splashed’. I know it’s only preseason but so far it’s been a belly flop. Edmonds and Milano mental mistakes are the problem so far IMO. 2 young LBs. But Edmunds picked it up. He needs experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Elite Poster said: Star and Murphy were two very expensive and so far useless signings. I always like judging free agent pickups on their preseason play too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Mark Vader said: I saw that too, however Edmunds made a couple of good tackles tonight. He definitely played better. I'm not worried about him. I want to be, Mark. But on the opening TD drive vs starters, he was completely lost, running the wrong way of the play, stumbling & fumbling from moving forward 1st at the snap, rather than read, and miss tackles. He improved a bit as the half went on and Cleveland played 0-16 worthy scrubs. He FINALLY recorded a tackle. I’m concerned he hasn’t earned his ‘Starter Since Draft Night’ position on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Logic said: Lotulelei? Really? How about Tremaine Edmunds just running into the defensive linemens' back every play?! And by “every play” you include those he made the tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Looking at Star, to me he's doing his job. He's taking on two blockers and holding the point. The problem is the linebackers are not filling lanes. They are LOST. Notice most of the big runs are where Edmunds or Milano should be and not where LORAX should be. I'm thinking they are going to have to have Edmunds and Milano on the move to shore up the run issues or misdirection and cutbacks are going to kill this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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