dubs Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, Niagara Dude said: The pass to RAY RAY McLOUD, he is the only QB on the roster that makes that throw. The key to me is looked confident in the pocket despite lousy line play. Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m very happy with how JA played. He just didn’t look like he should be starting yet. And I think that’s fine. He clearly has all the tools and potential, but there’s no need to rush him. Especially if McCarron continues to play as well as he did today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Magnetar said: lol, his first NFL pass lead the receiver out of bounds and gave him no chance. Most NFL QBs miss 60% of their deep throws. He missed that throw by a yard. His ball placement was fine all night. Foster probably should have brought in the other two deep balls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Beach said: You can see the potential and you can also see he is NOT ready yet. What I see is inconsistency, which is going to be his personal demon throughout his career. The entire issue with him is whether or not he can play on a high level, consistently. We now he can do it here and there. He was also displaying a tendency to bail on the pocket and run which I didn't like, though I won't draw too many conclusions from it tonight b/c he was getting murdered back there. I totally agree he should get time with the #1s. I don't see the point in trying to evaluating him behind the 3rd string line at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Allen has the fire in the belly. Similar to a Farve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 The first thing I look at in a QB is how he is in the pocket. Josh Allen had an A+ grade for me. Stepped up, kept eyes down field, and didn’t have happy feet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatixs Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, Beach said: You can see the potential and you can also see he is NOT ready yet. Agree, with the 2 other qb's we have here, i'm happy to see where it goes, and let them train Allen's bad habits away. I want him to succeed, just don't wanna see another qb with talent fail because he wasn't ready. He had a big gain on a pass he shouldn't have thrown and got lucky, threw off back foot. His arm and luck saved him. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: He was also displaying a tendency to bail on the pocket and run which I didn't like, though I won't draw too many conclusions from it tonight b/c he was getting murdered back there. I totally agree he should get time with the #1s. I don't see the point in trying to evaluating him behind the 3rd string line at all! I didn't get that from him. I was pleasantly surprised with his pocket awareness so early in his career. It would be much better for Allen to work with the #1s... but they have to work all the QBs. It's the eternal problem of all preseasons. I'm excited man. If nothing else, Allen brings thrills and fun and likely some cringe moments to the game. But boring he won't be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Beach said: You can see the potential and you can also see he is NOT ready yet. Not untrue, but he is closer than many thought. 25 minutes ago, Magnetar said: That's the thing, he may never be ready for the NFL due to inaccuracy. I mean, everyone knew that before the draft... I think tonight he showed exactly what he is going to be. Some wow plays, but mostly too inconsistent. I know it's only one pre-season game, but if some fans are already anointing him as going to be great. I havnt seen video yet but from the radio coverage it sounded like he was plenty accurate. Foster did not help at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Reminds me of Bret Favre, 25 years younger and 10 percent bigger and more athletic. I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Bills rookie Josh Allen shows off electric arm in debut Josh Allen took the field to a chorus of cheers and nearly sent Buffalo's New Era Field into paroxysms of excitement on his first preseason pass. Entering Thursday night's game after halftime, the Bills' first-round draft pick promptly dropped back on a play-action pass and unfurled an effortless 60-yard bomb that led rookie receiver Robert Foster just a step out of bounds for a loud incompletion. Allen unleashed a tantalizing sequel early in the fourth quarter, stepping up in the pocket on third-and-22 with a deep rainbow that would have gone for a 62-yard touchdown had it not been just out of the reach of Foster's outstretched hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I totally agree he should get time with the #1s. I don't see the point in trying to evaluating him behind the 3rd string line at all! I don't think he is being evaluated … I think they are deciding which of the others will be kept as JA's backup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 At least with the twos. His line and wr were garbage. Missed easy catches, blocking assignments awful. He needs better talent for us to assess him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetar Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: Not untrue, but he is closer than many thought. I havnt seen video yet but from the radio coverage it sounded like he was plenty accurate. Foster did not help at all. His receivers failed him many times yes, but he was not consistently accurate, which you absolutely have to be in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 All I could go off of (until tonight) were practice reports. After watching the game tonight, Allen is not close to the other 2. Redshirt Allen and keep the battle going with Peterman and AJ. They both were very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Ahhhh, let the real fun begin!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: Ahhhh, let the real fun begin!!! Given our schuedule with many earily season road games against tough teams the Bills may start one of the other two guys to start the season to avoid destroying Allen's confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Allen is a lot further away from the other 2 QBs then I expected. I was very impressed with Peterman and Mccarron. Allen looked like a green rookie with a lot of raw ability and very little polish. Every day at camp, people are acting like Allen is right there...he’s not. And that’s okay. I can’t see Allen playing all season. Keep the competition going with AJ and Peterman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I was happy to see the offence moving the ball with all 3 QBs. That is something I've needed to see since the 3 point playoff game. I thoroughly enjoyed this preseason game. I'm not hitching my wagon to it but it definitely makes me feel a lot more confident in Daboll and the season ahead. So I'm not in this debate. They are moving Allen along at a pace I agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, Magnetar said: No way, he definitely showed he's a rookie. The other QB's look like they are much further ahead. Of course they're further ahead. But Allen needs to play some in the preseason with the first team offense. I have a feeling he will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Allen is a lot further away from the other 2 QBs then I expected. I was very impressed with Peterman and Mccarron. Allen looked like a green rookie with a lot of raw ability and very little polish. Every day at camp, people are acting like Allen is right there...he’s not. And that’s okay. I can’t see Allen playing all season. Keep the competition going with AJ and Peterman. I agree. But I am a little worried Peterman is fools.gold in the preseason. He looks great because he makes quick throws. Against vanilla defenses with wider windows that works well for him. My worry is when defenses tighten up his arm strength issue will show itself again. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetar Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, Formerly Allan in MD said: Of course they're further ahead. But Allen needs to play some in the preseason with the first team offense. I have a feeling he will. That's doesn't make sense. AJM and NP are battling for the start, they need to give AJM the start next week, and after that game decide who their regular season starter is. Allen is not starting material, why give him time with the 1's? Can't waste #1 reps like that in a QB battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Allen was off the charts. He had a couple rookie mistake type of throws, but was mostly very impressive in terms of arm strength, accuracy, ball placement, and decision making aggressiveness. McCarron looks like a serviceable game manager in the meantime. We finally have a QB on the roster who can keep the D on their heels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Allen is a lot further away from the other 2 QBs then I expected. I was very impressed with Peterman and Mccarron. Allen looked like a green rookie with a lot of raw ability and very little polish. Every day at camp, people are acting like Allen is right there...he’s not. And that’s okay. I can’t see Allen playing all season. Keep the competition going with AJ and Peterman. Amazing because I feel the exact opposite. Allen seemed much closer to the other 2 than I was expecting. He was very quiet in the pocket with a lot of pressure around him and made great throws. The game was definitely not bigger than him which was my biggest fear. Plus, obviously he made 5-6 throws that the other 2 can not physically make. Allen may not be ready, but it won't be long. The thought of him starting with Shady behind him and KB as the #1 WR is special. Edited August 10, 2018 by Bills Pimpin' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Bills rookie Josh Allen shows off electric arm in debut Josh Allen took the field to a chorus of cheers and nearly sent Buffalo's New Era Field into paroxysms of excitement on his first preseason pass. Entering Thursday night's game after halftime, the Bills' first-round draft pick promptly dropped back on a play-action pass and unfurled an effortless 60-yard bomb that led rookie receiver Robert Foster just a step out of bounds for a loud incompletion. Allen unleashed a tantalizing sequel early in the fourth quarter, stepping up in the pocket on third-and-22 with a deep rainbow that would have gone for a 62-yard touchdown had it not been just out of the reach of Foster's outstretched hands. Foster not been too much of a kitty to dive for it. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Not really. A couple miscommunications where he thought the receiver was running a different route. A couple bad decisions. A lot of plays where the receivers and line did nothing to help him. I'm happy with his performance overall all things considered. Tyrod?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtown Tommy Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Magnetar said: lol, his first NFL pass lead the receiver out of bounds and gave him no chance. Lol, you're talking about the 60 yarder, right? Edited August 10, 2018 by Southtown Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I know it wasn't pretty at times but Allens potential and natural ability pops off the screen , I'm officially excited about him , I've been on the fence but I was very impressed what I just witnessed... He's very raw but we got a freakin Souped up , one of a kind Ferrari in the Garage!!! The ease of his throws looks second to none in this league.. His ball placement on these throws are ridiculous. Not many QBs can put the ball there. He's extremely difficult to get down and had overall strong pocket presence. He's way more agile and quick than I thought. He might get the red shirt but boy his talent is rare in many areas. He's got the IT factor.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Foster makes that catch on 3rd and 22 for 6 the game looks totally different. Next week I want to see Corey Coleman with Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 This is what I expected in his first game, and I am happy with his progress. The accuracy wasn't horrible. That throw between the defenders was special and I can see how people can easily get caught up admiring his physical gifts. I honestly think we might have something with Josh, I have no problem letting AJ or (Dare i say) NP start while Allen develops more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I agree. But I am a little worried Peterman is fools.gold in the preseason. He looks great because he makes quick throws. Against vanilla defenses with wider windows that works well for him. My worry is when defenses tighten up his arm strength issue will show itself again. I rewatched that TD drive and I agree with this. It wasn't as impressive the 2nd time around. I've defended Peterman as much as anyone on this board but the velocity just wasn't there by my eyes. There's a litte more separation in preseason so he can get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) I can't wait to see the replay tomorrow morning. JA sounds so far so good. Lets' get him some more live bullets. Edited August 10, 2018 by qwksilver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Every Josh Allen pass | Preseason Week 1 (4:28) Watch every pass thrown by Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen in his preseason debut against the Carolina Panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) Everyone's grade of Josh Allen tonight should be "incomplete". There's no way you can grade him while playing with the group of players that won't even be on the team in 3 weeks. Edited August 10, 2018 by CajunBillsBacker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Peterman played very well. It's inarguable. It's also inarguable that all Peterman showed was what he does well. We knew all this already. He's very good, and his fans overvalue, the idea that he can drop back and throw a 10 yard pass. He had one very nice rollout play, his best of the game, where he made a great pass to KB who made a great catch on the sidelines. But Peterman has two glaring fatal flaws and he did zero in this game to alleviate the worry. He doesn't handle a strong rush well, and he doesn't get the ball downfield, and he doesn't have the arm strength. He didn't do one thing to disprove his downfall. Actually he stared down his receivers a lot, and his INT was well behind the intended receiver. McCarron showed better than Peterman. He did a lot of things QBs have to do to succeed in this league. He delivered the ball downfield. He went to his second and third reads. He stepped up in the pocket excellent. He was steady and yet still got the ball downfield. if you're a coach, the most impressive QB on the field, regardless of stats, was Allen. He showed all kinds of talent in ten different QB qualities. He was mostly great against the rush. He scrambled and ran great. He threw the ball downfield. He should have had two complete bombs. His TD was ridiculous. He even showed touch. For his first game, with guys like Foster, who !@#$ed him several times (and I hoped was going to make the team but was awful), Allen was very, very impressive. He should be playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Knicks&Bills said: It almost as if I’m dreaming. JA looks like the real deal Wake up and watch it again. He was bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 He should. He wasn't perfect but the potential is so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I rewatched that TD drive and I agree with this. It wasn't as impressive the 2nd time around. I've defended Peterman as much as anyone on this board but the velocity just wasn't there by my eyes. There's a litte more separation in preseason so he can get away with it. I watched it again as well and feel the same way, but it may look decievingly slow immediately after watching Allen throw it 20 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, Not at the table Karlos said: Wake up and watch it again. He was bad Not at all. He showed a dozen great qualities and he showed he's a rookie in his first game. Some little things he did were terrific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) I’d love to see Josh run with the 1’s. AJ and Nate were very good, but id love to see Josh with all 1’s in a real game situation Edited August 10, 2018 by BillsGuru4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Magnetar said: His receivers failed him many times yes, but he was not consistently accurate, which you absolutely have to be in the NFL. You need to go talk to Bret Favre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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