White Linen Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I'd much rather have my QB prospect handle himself this way vs Mayfield who thinks running his mouth matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I fully expect Josh Allen to be our starting QB come week one of the regular season... 19 and 0 baby!!! GO BILLSSS!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: This is what he said on One Bills Live...which kind of surprised me...I understand he’s trying to learn the offense and his team mates, but so are the other two guys...anyway, it looks like he’s not even expecting himself to start. Just curious what everyone thinks about this...I know Baker Mayfield said, after the draft, that he expected to earn the starting job- and we all know what Rosen thinks of himself...so what are your thoughts on JA not looking to beat anyone out? THis is terrible, and very serious. Sounds to me like the kid just shows up for a paycheck. Edited July 27, 2018 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I would think he knows his time is coming. Just being patient and letting the process play out. At the very least, doesn't sound like Josh's maturity level should be questioned, so that is a big positive at these early stages of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: This is what he said on One Bills Live...which kind of surprised me...I understand he’s trying to learn the offense and his team mates, but so are the other two guys...anyway, it looks like he’s not even expecting himself to start. Just curious what everyone thinks about this...I know Baker Mayfield said, after the draft, that he expected to earn the starting job- and we all know what Rosen thinks of himself...so what are your thoughts on JA not looking to beat anyone out? Go with God Crispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: This is what he said on One Bills Live...which kind of surprised me...I understand he’s trying to learn the offense and his team mates, but so are the other two guys...anyway, it looks like he’s not even expecting himself to start. Just curious what everyone thinks about this...I know Baker Mayfield said, after the draft, that he expected to earn the starting job- and we all know what Rosen thinks of himself...so what are your thoughts on JA not looking to beat anyone out? I think this is a great statement, love it in fact. What he is saying is that he is focused on learning and building the foundation to be a successful QB, not just being a little better than 2 unproven QB's so he can start. Its not like we got Flacco ahead of him here like Lamar does in Balt. AJ and NP here might lay eggs this preseason and Allen could be named the starter by just not being awful, but doesn't really mean he was ready to start. So Josh isn't focused on beating those guys, he is focused on his own development first and foremost and the rest will work itself out. That may mean he wins the job week 1, it may mean he doesn't play at all this year. I like Baker as a prospect, but look at what he said and whats actually being said about his readiness. He thought he would win the job outright, when the reports all say he is way behind Tyrod and Browns have firmly committed to TT and odds are Baker doesnt play this year unless TT gets hurt or flops and Browns are still consistently losing. I love this type of statement from him, shows his eagerness to learn and develop and check the ego at the door. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: It did? .....absolutely for his WALLET...stay tuned for the "rest of the story"............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: This is what he said on One Bills Live...which kind of surprised me...I understand he’s trying to learn the offense and his team mates, but so are the other two guys...anyway, it looks like he’s not even expecting himself to start. Just curious what everyone thinks about this...I know Baker Mayfield said, after the draft, that he expected to earn the starting job- and we all know what Rosen thinks of himself...so what are your thoughts on JA not looking to beat anyone out? Clearly the kid lacks heart and desire. He should be immediately labeled a bust and cut from the team. The entire front office, up to and including the night cleaning crew, needs to be immediately and irrevocably fired. In fact, all current coaches and players should be given their walking papers as well for this debacle. Mr. and Mrs. Pegula should then be forced to sell the team. 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Remind me to never go to one of your parties They do tend to be sausage-fests. 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Whenever I see a thread like this I’m always dying to hear what the Poster would like him to have said. "So, yeah. AJ McMunchy and Norm Peterson are just wastes of space in the QB room; they're not real competition. Hell, I'm not sure they're really even quarterbacks. They suck. I'm going to go out there and dominate those hapless bitches on the field. I'm the !@#$ing man, period. I'm going to throw for 6,000 yards this season, at a minimum. No one can match the raw sexual power of Josh !@#$ing Allen. NO ONE. Oh, and AJ... yeah, sorry buddy, but I've been tagging your wife for like a month now." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I've been pretty critical of the guy lately (CFB stats only!), but this is ridiculous. Dissecting every single throw and trying to run with one isolated quote? Take a lap dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Best Player Available said: I think he said the right thing. Being The new kid, he knows that OBD has plans for him. Why be a douche and tick off teamates? Now if was Rex Ryan's kid one would expect the exact opposite. ..because for some, that is a VERY difficult thing to comprehend.....one of the more nauseating ones in recent memory was RG II 1/8.....NOTHING was ever his fault in a "L", had no problem throwing teammates under the bus at will and had Daddy RG in the limelight as well.....Rex was "Bloviating Buddy Jr"......that acorn did not fall to far from the "tree".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 ZFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: This is what he said on One Bills Live...which kind of surprised me...I understand he’s trying to learn the offense and his team mates, but so are the other two guys...anyway, it looks like he’s not even expecting himself to start. Just curious what everyone thinks about this...I know Baker Mayfield said, after the draft, that he expected to earn the starting job- and we all know what Rosen thinks of himself...so what are your thoughts on JA not looking to beat anyone out? I think you are silly for posting this. Thanks for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..because for some, that is a VERY difficult thing to comprehend.....one of the more nauseating ones in recent memory was RG II 1/8.....NOTHING was ever his fault in a "L", had no problem throwing teammates under the bus at will and had Daddy RG in the limelight as well.....Rex was "Bloviating Buddy Jr"......that acorn did not fall to far from the "tree".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Allen’s becoming quite popular.....won’t be long now before he starts beating off his fans. Oh my.........never mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Thanks for the input. Hey, look at who has reared his ugly head! Still butt hurt from the playoff berth last season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Koko78 said: ...LOL..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Reminds me of the scene in Bull Durham where they’re going over cliches. He definitely wants to win the starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: This is what he said on One Bills Live...which kind of surprised me...I understand he’s trying to learn the offense and his team mates, but so are the other two guys...anyway, it looks like he’s not even expecting himself to start. Just curious what everyone thinks about this...I know Baker Mayfield said, after the draft, that he expected to earn the starting job- and we all know what Rosen thinks of himself...so what are your thoughts on JA not looking to beat anyone out? First, he will be the best, and then he will be first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills92 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I'll start to get concerned once he tells us he likes movies with Dakota Fanning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Josh Allen is a good kid. I don’t care what got on his Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: .....absolutely for his WALLET...stay tuned for the "rest of the story"............. Thats the right answer. That tag dance they did and then paying smith monster money tells me the skins know something we’re not seeing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 This is BAD news, we need a qb that is willing to beat anyone off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 ...probably yet ANOTHER OTAG half baked assessment, but I'll wing it.....I think this kid brings humility, respect AND an excellent work ethic to the table for starters....will it translate into success?...who knows.....closer to home, always thought TT and EJ had excellent work ethics and hard to deny Tebow (spent megabucks on personal trainers)....unfortunately, it did not translate, but they deserve kudos for efforts......despite what other "pundits" think, I think the Allen kid has a better skill set going in despite perceived weaknesses......so we'll see what happens.....stay tuned............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, The Senator said: I fully expect Josh Allen to be our starting QB come week one of the regular season... 19 and 0 baby!!! GO BILLSSS!!!!! Bam! There it is! "19 and 0 baby" is my very favorite TBDism, especially when written by the OG OP! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 He has the most talent and the team invested the most in him. If he can do some of the other things they expect out of McCarron or Peterman he wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 5 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Remind me to never go to one of your parties Are you a grown man who wears flip flops in public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Troll Toll said: This is BAD news, we need a qb that is willing to beat anyone off. hmmmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 He's humble and believes in his coaches timeline. Let's not make the same mistake with JA as we did with EJ and a trip over a mat. Let him learn and watch AJ and Nate battle it out. We as fans are always impatient and want everything now. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Tom & Bill will be gone soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Ultimate team guy. Wants everyone to get a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 19 hours ago, Elite Poster said: If he said he's here to earn a starting spot, this thread would be, "I love Josh's fire and competitive spirit!!!!", and since he said otherwise its, "Wow, so respectful!" None of this means anything. Let the boys play. This time of year is 95% self created soap opera story lines for grown men. Dudes twisting and bending every last statement or practice rep to fit a story line they have created for the reality tv show that we all watch together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 It's a very sound mindset with his focus on the task at hand. Far better than being insecure and worried about how the other QBs are doing. I'm quite sure he realizes that if he learns his craft well enough, he will end up as the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I think it is great the QBs are all together helping each other out and singing kumbaya. Although I hope each deep down inside have that competitive fire and are wanting that starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 21 hours ago, JaCrispy said: This is what he said on One Bills Live...which kind of surprised me...I understand he’s trying to learn the offense and his team mates, but so are the other two guys...anyway, it looks like he’s not even expecting himself to start. Just curious what everyone thinks about this...I know Baker Mayfield said, after the draft, that he expected to earn the starting job- and we all know what Rosen thinks of himself...so what are your thoughts on JA not looking to beat anyone out? Peterman said something quite similar in an interview. His quote was, "I'm not here to compete against the other guys, I'm here to compete against myself. It doesn't mean that they are being fatalistic about their role on the team. It means they can only control their own performance on the field. Their job is to try and get better: learn the offense as well as they can, hone their skill set as much as possible, and cut down on mistakes. Let the coaching staff figure out who is outplaying whom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I think he means he wants to worry about his performance not what the other two QBs are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 It's pretty clear the Bills have ruined Josh Allen by not starting him soon enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I think he means he wants to worry about his performance not what the other two QBs are doing. I haven't read this thread, because it's pretty clear that if he said what the title says he said, he meant just what you're saying. His mental approach is simply to keep learning, keep getting better, execute what he's given to execute. Who "wins" the QB comptetion will be the one who has learned the most, executes the best. You don't win the competition by focusing on your competitor; you win it by focusing on yourself and getting better at what you do. That's what's fundamentally wrong about the notion that there is a QB "competition." In true competition, you focus BOTH on what you do AND what your opponent does, because your opponent will be doing some things you have to respond to and your opponent may have some weaknesses you can exploit. In a QB "competition," you don't change your behavior to respond to whatever it is your "opponent" may be doing. You focus only on yourself. You don't say, for example, "AJ isn't very good at the deep sideline pass, so if I get better at that, I'll have an edge." You "win" by being the best package, regardless of what AJ is doing. So what Josh said is a comment about the difference between true competition and a QB competition. And it's completely consistent with McD's approach, which is simply that your job is get better at your job as fast as you can and to keep getting better. Your job doesn't have anything to do with whether you're better than someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 1:17 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: One thing that has struck me about Allen's press interactions since rookie minicamp: he reminds me of the scene in Bull Durham where Crash Davis is tutoring Nuke LaLoosh: "You're gonna have to learn your cliches....They're your friends" I don't think you're going to catch Allen on-microphone saying anything that isn't team-oriented, positive, and politically correct. This is great. Allen is that kid. He's just trying to figure it all out. He doesn't know all the cliches yet, but he's learning them. He had his episode with the racist tweets from high school, and he knows he doesn't want to go THERE again, so he's falling back on the cliches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 He is competing against himself. If he continues to get better everyday he will be starting week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 19 hours ago, BUFFALOKIE said: Bam! There it is! "19 and 0 baby" is my very favorite TBDism, especially when written by the OG OP! Some day, some team will once again have a perfect season - I’m so glad it wasn’t Belicheat/Brady. . My money is on our Bills. (we shoulda been in Super Bowl 1 / we woulda won with the team we had. God, how I hate Hank .Stram!) 19 & 0 baby!!!’ GO BILLSSS!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, billspro said: He is competing against himself. If he continues to get better everyday he will be starting week 1. True. It's certainly a good sign that he did well enough in OTAs that he had moved up to first-team reps by the time training camp began. Getting first-team is the first step toward getting first-team reps in preseason games. So he's begun the climb to the starting job. Still, there's no way of knowing IF he can climb to the top or HOW QUICKLY he can climb to the top. That depends in part on him and in part on what the other guys do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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