Virgil Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 With all the dead money coming off the books next year, we will be in fantastic salary cap shape. We don’t really have any major players due for extension. With that being said, is it Beane’s/McDermott’s M.O. to drop a lot of FA’s? That doesn’t feel like it’s part of their process for building a team, but they have made moves (Star, Hyde). Maybe they haven’t so far because they haven’t had the money, I don’t know. I guess I just don’t know what to expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I want them to draft well and be surgical about their free agents but it is good to know that we will have the money to be competative 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I don’t think big splash signings is their style. I’m not expecting Mario Williams, D Revis type signings. Smart, young and solid players will be brought in (think Poyer and Hyde). A couple OLine starters wouldn’t surprise me at all. Fill in the gaps. I like what they are doing so far. My fingers are crossed that they are building something solid with a quality young QB, then build both lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Wouldn't mind a Kelvin Benjamin extension for starters. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 $90 mil will go a long way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) Even if we signed 8 guys to 10 mil deals, where would be put them? If they want to buy a whole new job offensive line (minus RT) and a WR, I’m in. That’s just a lot of money to spend Edited June 1, 2018 by Virgil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: $90 mil will go a long way Yeah, I could get by on that for a while..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 If the opportunity presents itself to better the team through FA then they will push hard to do so. It will depend on team needs versus who is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I doubt they'll be big spenders in free agency, not just in 2019, but in general. Down the road, I can see them adding a WR that puts them over the top, but I think they'll take care of their own first. Build through the draft and get good return on rookie contracts, "value" type free agent signings that address areas of need (like Hyde, Star, Murphy etc), and only spend "big" after the team is very well constructed. I wouldn't be surprised if they roll over $30 mil into 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) Getting out of debt doesn't give you an excuse to spend yourself back into debt. Yes I want some spending to go down. Spend on guys like Shady and avoid guys like Dareus. Edited June 1, 2018 by Lfod 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Just imagine if we could spend our cap space on tailgating! OK, that would probably end badly...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I'm not a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find a team that went on a spending spree and built a perennial winner. Or put another way, for every team that spent heavily and had success there are probably more that tried that approach and failed and it haunted them for years. I like the model of building through the draft and then augmenting through free agency. Having cash to spend next year is great, but success will be predicated on the state of the roster when the cap space is available. Based on what I've seen from McBeane so far I'm optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Lets hope its 4/5 years before we have to open the bank for a QB, so the cap money can be used to fill the biggest holes. If this draft class works out well the Bills could be in very good shape for awhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Spend money and assets on offense. Surround your young qb with everything you possibly can to be successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 There's recent precedent for spending on WRs in year two of an offensive overhaul/QB development (think SB champs)... Not sure which receivers might be available next off-season. But it's a thought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 protect the franchise QB and give him weapons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, Virgil said: With all the dead money coming off the books next year, we will be in fantastic salary cap shape. We don’t really have any major players due for extension. With that being said, is it Beane’s/McDermott’s M.O. to drop a lot of FA’s? That doesn’t feel like it’s part of their process for building a team, but they have made moves (Star, Hyde). Maybe they haven’t so far because they haven’t had the money, I don’t know. I guess I just don’t know what to expect I don't think you'll see them going after the biggest free agents; not at this point. They will use that money to extend their own. They will also continue to grab young players who have flashed, but need an opportunity to start like Hyde or guys who are proven, solid, youngish vets like Lotulelei. And they will grab the ubiquitous depth, STs players. They will keep a healthy stash year to year to extend their own, which will be needed as their draft picks produce. When the team is built and they are one position away, I could see Beane spending a mint on a day 1 FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I would expect one big splash and extending guys that have out played their contracts like Poyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Virgil said: With all the dead money coming off the books next year, we will be in fantastic salary cap shape. We don’t really have any major players due for extension. With that being said, is it Beane’s/McDermott’s M.O. to drop a lot of FA’s? That doesn’t feel like it’s part of their process for building a team, but they have made moves (Star, Hyde). Maybe they haven’t so far because they haven’t had the money, I don’t know. I guess I just don’t know what to expect It really depends a lot on how the upcoming season unfolds. We will be one key player away ? Lot's of holes to still fill? I would expect them to be diligent, but Beane doesn't seem like the type to shell out huge deals too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Is Julio Jones going to be available next offseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Virgil said: With all the dead money coming off the books next year, we will be in fantastic salary cap shape. We don’t really have any major players due for extension. With that being said, is it Beane’s/McDermott’s M.O. to drop a lot of FA’s? That doesn’t feel like it’s part of their process for building a team, but they have made moves (Star, Hyde). Maybe they haven’t so far because they haven’t had the money, I don’t know. I guess I just don’t know what to expect Depends..how did the 2018 turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) I trust them to bring in some talent. Would be nice to get a big TE, quality WR, OL talent, LB depth, etc. Plenty of places to spend money. But spend it wisely. Spend it on guys on the upswing, not on the down swing. Edited June 1, 2018 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 McBeane doesn't look like the guy who splurges much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Praying they build a monster OLine. We habitually ignore it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Extend who? They have no player worth paying loads of cash to for an extension. I expect them to be aggressive in FA next year on offense because they will absolutely need to be, IMO. They'll have the money to do it. Benjamin if he plays well for starters. Miller if he plays well. Davis if he stays healthy and plays well. Extensions don't always mean breaking the bank. Extensions also don't have to only be for next season either. Planning for the future strikes me as something Beane will do. Dawkins, Milano and Zay will be halfway through their deal after next year. If they are playing well Beane might want to be proactive rather than wait until the last minute. Especially on Dawkins. If you listen to how he said he wants to build a team, and the types of signings he's made thus far, don't expect the "big" names or Beane to burn through all that cap. The better the draft picks play the more money he'll want to roll over. Edited June 1, 2018 by purple haze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Virgil said: With all the dead money coming off the books next year, we will be in fantastic salary cap shape. We don’t really have any major players due for extension. With that being said, is it Beane’s/McDermott’s M.O. to drop a lot of FA’s? That doesn’t feel like it’s part of their process for building a team, but they have made moves (Star, Hyde). Maybe they haven’t so far because they haven’t had the money, I don’t know. I guess I just don’t know what to expect I'd expect them to start signing their own guys, for one thing. And then to bring in a bunch of low- and medium-level FAs. Maybe since they have so much one big-ticket guy? Seems a reasonable guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 TE, two OL, a KB extension, and an OLB would be nice. Then the draft would be BPA with RB, WR, and DL the top priorities 1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said: I'd expect them to start signing their own guys, for one thing. And then to bring in a bunch of low- and medium-level FAs. Maybe since they have so much one big-ticket guy? Seems a reasonable guess. Who would they sign? KB I hope. Doubt they bring back Clay and his chronic knee. They let all the recent high draft picks go already. Poyer and Hyde are still under contract. Perhaps Vontae Davis if he can stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Dadonkadonk said: TE, two OL, a KB extension, and an OLB would be nice. Then the draft would be BPA with RB, WR, and DL the top priorities Who would they sign? KB I hope. Doubt they bring back Clay and his chronic knee. They let all the recent high draft picks go already. Poyer and Hyde are still under contract. Perhaps Vontae Davis if he can stay healthy. Who would they sign? KB, as you say. Lorenzo Alexander, Kyle Williams, Groy, Vontae, Jordan Mills, John Miller, Colton Schmidt, Logan Thomas, Nick O'Leary, Humber and Yarborough are all FAs in 2019. Dunno how many of those they'll be interested in, but probably some. And they could extend guys a year early who might be leaving after 2020, guys like Hughes, Clay, McCarron, Ducasse, Adolphus Washington, and perhaps another guy or two they might pick up this year on one-year prove-it deals. Few if any guys who would appear to be absolute needs, but you never know who might improve this year and look a lot more vital to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Virgil said: With all the dead money coming off the books next year, we will be in fantastic salary cap shape. We don’t really have any major players due for extension. With that being said, is it Beane’s/McDermott’s M.O. to drop a lot of FA’s? That doesn’t feel like it’s part of their process for building a team, but they have made moves (Star, Hyde). Maybe they haven’t so far because they haven’t had the money, I don’t know. I guess I just don’t know what to expect I think so, but they won't blow it all. I think they will bring the same type of player but with more talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: $90 mil will go a long way Cap tracker at Spotrac has us at about $50 million in 2019, with 60 guys under contract (only the top 51 count). Keeping in mind that is excluding the cap increase (13 million dollars?) and our rookie pool money. Edited June 1, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 They will have to be major FA players to fill out the roster.... but major in number not in $$s. I think that o-line and WR are the obvious spots where they might want to add but who the right people are in each of those spots is a question mark. The FA WR class looks particularly thin. It is OBJ who I don't see as a fit even if he makes FA, Cooks and Benjamin (one of whom we have already) who have both failed to prove themselves true #1s and then Randall Cobb and Golden Tate who are both starting to get up in years and are kind of 1A types rather than true #1s. Beyond those 5 it is slim pickings. The FA OL class looks a little better but I imagine many of those guys (Jake Matthews, Zack Martin, Taylor Lewan) will get signed. You might be able to snag a Saffold, or a Iupati as a 2-3 year guy similar to what we did with Richie - I think both still have some petrol in the tank. Or a Ju'Wan James or a Ali Marpet might make it to FA and have shown they can be starters (at RT and G respectively). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) They will spend a lot of cash next year. They have to. Teams are required to spend a certain amount of cash. Bills have not spent a lot of cash the last couple years, even though cap spending was high. Next year will be a spending spree. I bet they are top 5 in cash spending in 2019. Edited June 1, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Virgil said: With all the dead money coming off the books next year, we will be in fantastic salary cap shape. We don’t really have any major players due for extension. With that being said, is it Beane’s/McDermott’s M.O. to drop a lot of FA’s? That doesn’t feel like it’s part of their process for building a team, but they have made moves (Star, Hyde). Maybe they haven’t so far because they haven’t had the money, I don’t know. I guess I just don’t know what to expect I made a thread awhile ago Buffalo vs. Jacksonville and explained the Jags draft success aligning with their available cap. The Bills are in a similar position if they nailed this draft and guys like Milano and Dawkins continue to show improvement. The Bills will be in position to make key FA additions and bolster a solid young core. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 If they're gonna continue giving 10 mil a year contracts to players like Star I'd rather they just keep it and build through the draft. That's like buying a Hyundai for 85k. I'd like to see them make acquisitions at positions needed of course but let's be smart about it. This team is in a position they haven't seen in a long time. Willing ownership, competent coaching and front office, talented youth and possible franchise QB and soon to be major cap space. Hopefully they spend it on quality starters who can contribute and want to be here like Hyde and Poyer. I do like Star though. Good player who fits a need. And let's be honest, it was the worst kept secret we were signing him once FA started, but 10 mil per? He's a 7 mil player max. And yes, I am well aware that it's not my money. It's just sometimes I look at it from a GMs perspective instead of a fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Spotrac has the Bills at 58 mil in cao space in 2019 but that is with no allen or phillips contract. Over The Cap has the Bills with 69 mil in cap space. They do have money but they have to be responsible with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I don't know about a "spree", but I think there could be significant additions at WR, OT, and OG. If Stefon Diggs hits the market, that'd be a no-brainer. Add in a Daryl Williams and Shaq Mason and you're probably done with 1st-wave guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I think they'll sign more FA but I don't see a major splash like a Mario Williams type of signing. I think they use FA to find solid starters and depth and find the homeruns/stars in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Augie said: I don’t think big splash signings is their style. I’m not expecting Mario Williams, D Revis type signings. Smart, young and solid players will be brought in (think Poyer and Hyde). A couple OLine starters wouldn’t surprise me at all. Fill in the gaps. I like what they are doing so far. My fingers are crossed that they are building something solid with a quality young QB, then build both lines. You are periodically astute, perspicacious adroit. ? Edited June 1, 2018 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnC said: You are periodically astute, perspicacious adroit. ? That’s almost a full week of the vocabulary calendar! Pace yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Just now, Augie said: That’s almost a full week of the vocabulary calendar! Pace yourself! Peddle to the metal. I'm a full throttle guy. Go hard and fast until your gas tank is on empty. Then fill it up again. Fear not! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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