BringBackOrton Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) With 4 ProBowl caliber DB's this year? Why? Kromer 2.0? Edited January 30, 2018 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Seems strange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: Seems strange Indeed. Always hard to judge without info, so I’ll pass on judgement now. But certainly curious based on last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Wow really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 It's very odd... Midnight it's tweeted out. On Google I don't see anything. It's a simple method but usually is pretty good. At midnight is what's oddest to me about when Tim Graham is tweeting this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: It's very odd... Midnight it's tweeted out. On Google I don't see anything. It's a simple method but usually is pretty good. At midnight is what's oddest to me about when Tim Graham is tweeting this Must be the Bill's felt like doing midnight news lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 ill wait to hear from the bills app on this one...idk why just dont see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, WMDman said: ill wait to hear from the bills app on this one...idk why just dont see it Ya the timing to this just odd... I wonder tomorrow if true more coaches leaving..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Someone has to take the bullet for the botched Wood presser. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Fan in LA Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Maybe has something to so with trying to resign Gaines.............or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Probowl Caliber play from the DBs. The position coach gets fired. Crap play from the OL and the Position Coach Teflon Juan still here. Edited January 30, 2018 by MAJBobby 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Probowl Caliber play from the DBs. The position coach gets fired. Crap play from the OL and the Position Coach Teflon Juan still here. Well when you put it that way..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Probowl Caliber play from the DBs. The position coach gets fired. Crap play from the OL and the Position Coach Teflon Juan still here. How bout the career Wr turned QB coach Culley. I don't trust him to develop young QBs. He should be moved bk to Wrs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Ugh. Only thing that makes sense is if there was another coach available that he preferred for the job. If he’s fired with no replacement in mind, I have to question the move. Hail our DBs last seasom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Seems strange. Definitely not a move I expected. But I also don't know how much of the success of the secondary he's really responsible for. I mean, obviously he deserves some credit. But that is probably McDermott's strongest area of expertise (esp. since he played the position himself), and he has had very good secondaries for most of his career as a DC. I am guessing there had to be a reason for this and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. But I am going to reserve my final judgement until more info comes out... and ultimately it will come down to waiting and seeing how the secondary does in the coming season(s). My guess is they will be just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 McDermott firing assistant coaches he chose after only 1 year....guess he didn't do a good job picking his staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Could be he wasn’t first choice when building this staff last year? Wouldn’t wack someone if they were responsible for how well a unit played....or at least I hope so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 55 minutes ago, nucci said: McDermott firing assistant coaches he chose after only 1 year....guess he didn't do a good job picking his staff or the guy he really wanted is only now freeing up.. come on guys , think it all the way through 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 And Castillo still has a job? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, kdiggz said: And Castillo still has a job? And David Culley is the best QB coach available? hes a solid coach but I think there may be a better QB coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Byrd = Leroi?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Very strange, if true. Something else is behind that curtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Nobody knows Nathan Petermen better then David Culley. Firing coaches is not always a good thing Edited January 30, 2018 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Maybe another DB coach is coming in that McD has previous working experience with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 - Results don’t entirely correlate to coaching. It’s possible DBs aren’t close to potential. - DBs may not like the coach - Coach not on same page as rest of the staff - He’s just a jerk in other words, we have no idea and while fun to speculate, you won’t know until something leaks (and even then . . .) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 McDermott's specialty is coaching the secondary. This doesn't mean anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Eric Wood's contract still in limbo and then they fire Byrd....Ralph is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 7 hours ago, jmc12290 said: With 4 ProBowl caliber DB's this year? Why? Kromer 2.0? This is pretty much how I feel. 35 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: - Results don’t entirely correlate to coaching. It’s possible DBs aren’t close to potential. - DBs may not like the coach - Coach not on same page as rest of the staff - He’s just a jerk in other words, we have no idea and while fun to speculate, you won’t know until something leaks (and even then . . .) While we will never know the whole story it’s is tough to argue with the results. Hyde, Poyer and Gaines had the best years of their careers. They all got better under Byrd. Tre White is going to finish 2nd in DROY voting. It’s a tough argument to say that they aren’t close to their potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Probowl Caliber play from the DBs. The position coach gets fired. Crap play from the OL and the Position Coach Teflon Juan still here. Do position coaches even matter though? I remember everyone being excited Mike Waufle was hired as the DL coach, but our front 4 ended up one of our weakest units. Zay Jones had the same WR coach he had in college when he broke the NCAA record for receptions. In the NFL you either got it or you don't and no position coach is going to change that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Do position coaches even matter though? I remember everyone being excited Mike Waufle was hired as the DL coach, but our front 4 ended up one of our weakest units. Zay Jones had the same WR coach he had in college when he broke the NCAA record for receptions. In the NFL you either got it or you don't and no position coach is going to change that. This might be the crux of the problem. Position coaches teach techniques and run through play assignments. I don't think most design plays or defensive coverages. The overall success of an offensive or defensive unit depends upon how the plays/coverages/schemes are drawn up, which are usually the province of the OC or DC along with the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Do position coaches even matter though? I remember everyone being excited Mike Waufle was hired as the DL coach, but our front 4 ended up one of our weakest units. Zay Jones had the same WR coach he had in college when he broke the NCAA record for receptions. In the NFL you either got it or you don't and no position coach is going to change that. Yeah, I think they matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I forgot who the DB coach was until I saw this. Someone else must have become available. I wouldnt assume the offensive coaches are safe. Daboll said the first time he had a chance to meet with the offensive staff was Friday. Changes, if they are made, will be forthcoming. Frazier and McD had since early Jan to do the def coach evaluations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Probowl Caliber play from the DBs. The position coach gets fired. Crap play from the OL and the Position Coach Teflon Juan still here. And I'm sure you KNOW with 100% certainty that Castillo will remain here, right? 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I forgot who the DB coach was until I saw this. Someone else must have become available. I wouldnt assume the offensive coaches are safe. Daboll said the first time he had a chance to meet with the offensive staff was Friday. Changes, if they are made, will be forthcoming. Frazier and McD had since early Jan to do the def coach evaluations. Excellent post. Reasoned, and logical. Good lord, the panic and panty-twisting around here is getting to be a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 With what we saw on the field last year it's hard to understand the move. Byrd shouldn't have a hard time finding work with the success his guys had last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 our DBs had a good year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds 808080 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Our DBs had a great year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Not a big deal. Methinks this has nothing to do with the performance of the DBs this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Wow, my buddy actually told me that McDermott isn't too well liked by the defensive staff and there was a lot of discourse throughout the year. He actually told me that there would be changes from "retirements" and firings because McDermott wants everyone to know who is in charge. I didn't believe him because of all the "culture" change we have seen in media, but now the news is coming out about the changes. Edited January 30, 2018 by Ittakestime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 douche move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Bring back Donnie Henderson! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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